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rsandersr47
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

QOL changes

Hoping EA makes a good game eventually. That being said unless we see the changes people are asking for we won't see that day come.

Hockey bags

problem- nobody.. and I mean NOBODY likes these.. they're annoying to open, they're time consuming, we get things we don't want 99% of the time. If EA is listening and stuff is being passed to devs why do we still have them?

Fix- what if we are given money after games. With that money we can go to a shop and buy gear, animations, etc. We could also use money to throw into the "club pot" and buy new stuff for the club including an upgraded arena.

Music

Problem- the music in NHL games is awful and nearly everyone feels the need to mute it immediately. Who decides on these songs? Whose job is this? Have they been to a hockey game?

Fix- get music that fits the sport.. I guess this year was a little better than years past but it's not by much. Look to add 90's and early 2000's rock. Songs you expect to hear at a hockey game. Simply look at the songs that are played at NHL games.. 

Stats in WoC (small issue)

Problem a- all game mode stats are included in presented stats during a game. My club plays threes, 3's, and 6's so it looks rather silly when 1 player has 700 goals and another has 32.

Fix- presented stats during a game should reflect only that mode, and should reset each season.

Problem b- stats when looking at club members also include all game modes.

Fix- allow for switching between modes and seeing more club stats.

HUT

Problem- most teams all look the same and it often takes so long to get players we want.

Fix- take a page out of madden and give us cards we can train. Let me start my team with a 70 ovr Yzerman and Lidstrom. It would also be cool if I could just create a team of fake players and build them how I want and use training points to make them better. I think it would be cool to have my HUT team be filled with some of my friends irl. I would also add a salary cap some stats would add more to the cap of the team. Also, why not have a team builder/ uniform maker like WoC does? Building a team like this would be MUCH more fun.

Problem b- challenges are BORING!

FIX- Give us fun challenges. Face an entire team of giant Chara! Face an entire team of tiny gretzky. Face the spitin chicklets podcast. Face teams of former cup wins. Play challenges where we dont use our HUT team and instead play in historic games, where we have to do what teams did in the past like a big 3rd period comeback or win the cup with the team who DIDN'T win. Playing some random DEL team and ensuring i win 50% of faceoffs isnt exactly something I'm interested in doing or fun.. 

WoC

Problem a- Take a page out of perhaps the most advanced sports title on the market. 2K has a career mode built into their version of WoC. 

Fix- allow us to play offline or online to build our pro. Allow us to edit our player stats, choose our own x factors. 2k changes how their pro is created.. look at videos of how they have done this the past 5 years and what people have thought about it. Then formulate your own way. I could think of dozens of ways..

Problem b- your game is just dying.. not enough changes and just not keeping up with any other sports title. Because of this the population is extremely low.. 

Fix- get rid of 1's and pro am. Find ways to push people to play club over drop in. Drops should be a mode to help clubs find players and for players to find clubs. I would add that players should be able to watch games in drop in lobbies to recruit OR allow clubs face drop teams. Those teams could invite players or players could ask to join the club. Players and ESPECIALLY clubs should not be staying in dropins.

Problem c- add a sense of realism.

Fix- imagine your team sucks but you build up enough money to buy a pro stadium. How funny would it be if you show up and only 10% of the arena is filled. Or worse, you're playing a team that's really good and they have more fans in your stadium than you do! Imagine your own fans start wearing bags on their heads, or throw jerseys on the ice after another loss. More wins= more fans and they travel better. Imagine your team losing money if they're not playing well and stadium costs are too much to sustain. 

40 Replies

  • bruanor09's avatar
    bruanor09
    Seasoned Veteran
    2 years ago
    @rsandersr47 100% yes

    WOC really requires atmosphere, challenge, interest, fan.

    I have a big team of friends, we like to spend time together, in our favorite game.
    But there is nothing to do in the game until 9pm, it takes a long time to find an opponent. Admire the lobby screen?
    Just log into the game and have fun


    We spend hours in the lobby. long long hours a week are spent in the lobby. I know hundreds of games where you can do something while the search is going on. Training, challenges, player setup, shop, club management. Anything. Even clean up the locker room.

    The drop-in is so terrible that even the thought does not arise to look there.

    After all, there really is a problem when there are not enough 1-2 players.
    Solution:
    1)
    Create a pool of currently available players, make a filter by position, server, reputation (yes, reputation is needed).

    2)
    Make a setting that allows players to get into the club from the drop-in, any way.
  • KlariskraysNHL's avatar
    KlariskraysNHL
    Hero+
    2 years ago

    @bruanor09I always see this waiting long time in lobbies. I never experience this until like 2-3am est.  I won't bother with anything less than 6.

    I'm curious if you are on PS4/Xbox One or PS5/Xbox Series?
    Also are you playing 6s or what?

  • KidShowtime1867's avatar
    KidShowtime1867
    Hero
    2 years ago
    @rsandersr47 wrote:

    Fix- what if we are given money after games. With that money we can go to a shop and buy gear, animations, etc. We could also use money to throw into the "club pot" and buy new stuff for the club including an upgraded arena. 

    Fantastic idea. Hockey bags are cumbersome and largely unimportant to players not overly concerned with how they look. 

    I also like the idea of contributing to a club pot of money where you can purchase specific improvements for your club rather than having to wait until you get a hockey bag that contains a logo your team likes to use. 

    @rsandersr47 wrote:

    Fix- get music that fits the sport.. I guess this year was a little better than years past but it's not by much. Look to add 90's and early 2000's rock. Songs you expect to hear at a hockey game. Simply look at the songs that are played at NHL games.. 

    Honest to goodness, find a way to bring back custom music. It's simply amazing that back in 2014, we had the ability to stream ditties from a network share to our console. The custom music community was simply amazing - eventually building a crowd sourced system that ensured the ditties on your computer were up-to-date with what was being played in arenas around the world.

    Although I understand "licensing" limitations may be the culprit here, I don't buy that integrating a simple function that streams files from your local computer violates that licensing in any way whatsoever.

    IMO, EA gets really cheap and/or free licensing from the bands/labels included in their games under the promise of 'exposure' and they likely were forced to exclude custom ditties in their titles by some record label in order to ensure their 'clients' were given the most exposure possible.

    Side rant - this is why you can't turn off Carlan Bathe in the WoC screen. It's clear that her agent negotiated with EA to ensure her voice is the first thing you hear no matter what. 

    It's these little things that turn off long-time fans from the franchise. 

    @rsandersr47 wrote:

    Fix- imagine your team sucks but you build up enough money to buy a pro stadium. How funny would it be if you show up and only 10% of the arena is filled. Or worse, you're playing a team that's really good and they have more fans in your stadium than you do! Imagine your own fans start wearing bags on their heads, or throw jerseys on the ice after another loss. More wins= more fans and they travel better. Imagine your team losing money if they're not playing well and stadium costs are too much to sustain. 

    This would be awesome! But from what I recall, the NHL is so protective of their brand that they don't want arenas in the game to appear empty at all. 

  • RatedxPGxEnigma's avatar
    RatedxPGxEnigma
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    WOC— Make rankings actually matter. If im a P1, gold 3 running solo's 6's, dont put me in a lobby w/ bronze newbies vs a squad of plats!!!

  • KidShowtime1867's avatar
    KidShowtime1867
    Hero
    2 years ago
    @RatedxPGxEnigma wrote:

    WOC— Make rankings actually matter. If im a P1, gold 3 running solo's 6's, dont put me in a lobby w/ bronze newbies vs a squad of plats!!!

    If you're just playing a drop-in game, why does it matter? I never understood this elitism in drop-in lobbies that results in very little games starting with full 6's. 

    You're playing a game mode designed to match up with randoms. If you want only players that match your specific skill-level, then go find a club. Otherwise, stop ruining drop-in lobbies by quitting during the last 10-seconds because the levels of the players you were teamed with don't match your standards.

    Remember: someone who's 'rank' is less than yours doesn't necessarily mean they're bad at the game or any worse than you. I've played Div 1 6's with players whose levels arent' even above 50 and they're still competing regularly and outplaying users who have 'Max Level'.

  • rsandersr47's avatar
    rsandersr47
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @KidShowtime1867 Hmm I dont think I played when they had custom music. I gotta wonder if this could be abused especially if clubs were able to make this their goal song. I think an "EA Vault" of music would be awesome. It could be used across all games and could be used for TD/ goal music.

    Carlan is awful. The fact we complained SO much last year and it still wasn't fixed shows once again how little they are hearing us or care about what changes we want made. Maybe you're right about why. Crazy we don't have a button to shut her off.

    As far as arena's go it wouldn't really be NHL stadiums it would be our EASHL stadiums. Would be even more interesting if we could change prices of stuff in our arenas or do different GM stuff to try to make our club money. Or maybe even have custom leagues within WoC.

    @KlariskraysNHL when I was playing a few months ago we played on PS4 and PS5 depending on which console we could find a game. Even on a Saturday night we would be waiting 20-30 minutes or more. The avg search would go from 2 min to 1:30 or something but we wouldn't find a game. I will say that often times we would play with 5 because none of us can play goalie so perhaps that could help? Not sure how many play 5's vs 6's. 3's and threes we can find games all night (but we usually only played those if people were busy)
  • KlariskraysNHL's avatar
    KlariskraysNHL
    Hero+
    2 years ago
    @rsandersr47 Custom Music sadly can't become a thing due to licensing these days.

    As for Carlan well I'm sure EA inked a deal with her for several years and plus her stuff seems baked into the game where it would probably just be a hassle to remove it all instead of just leaving it til when they do decide to change things up.

    I played the last 2 nights from like 7pm est to 1am est and besides us taking potty breaks between games we found them fast and frequent as 6s on PS5/XSX. I mean for so many I know of that play LG and such we only use search match same size so all those searches exclude the rest which probably makes things harder for you to find them as a 5s.
  • rsandersr47's avatar
    rsandersr47
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @KlariskraysNHL Could be the reason. It's rare we have 6. I mostly just play with friends from home, a few guys we met in game, then a guy I met on deployment. I mean it sucks you NEED 6 to find games but maybe that's the reason. I usually play any game where they have 4-6 guys. Any less and it's not worth it.
  • KlariskraysNHL's avatar
    KlariskraysNHL
    Hero+
    2 years ago
    @rsandersr47 You could always try the LeagueGaming site chatbox to find people. Can't say they are all nice but you might make some new friends to help you fill out a team from time to time and get a dedicated goalie.

    I started off early with next to no NHL friends and since NHL 14 I'd say I got about 30-40 decent people I am more than willing to join up and play with and vice versa. But obviously you do what is best for you.

    Hopefully they got it right and NHL 24 has full cross-play for EASHL. That should help even more people reunite and such.

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