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Jagavekov's avatar
3 years ago

The game is not bad and horribly unrealistic because hockey is a "small" market

Looking through the Playstation holiday sale, I saw a few interesting titles.  Bus Driver Simulator, Firefighters the Simulation, Airport (not flying, AIRPORT) Simulator, and Gas Station Simulator. The amount of people interested in a Hockey simulation must be way higher than the amount of people simulating running a Gas Station, for example. 

I know those games may be terrible and easier to make than a hockey game, but even the fact that resources were put into making them says something.  If those games can be made and be even somewhat realistic to what they are simulating, why can't more effort be put into making NHL more of an accurate representation of the sport?  You know, without guys skating backwards with the puck half the game, and actually including body checking, neutral zone play, and defense in the game?

There are obviously people buying these other "simulation" games, or they wouldn't be made.  I took a quick look at Bus Driver simulator and it looks pretty realistic, I didn't see any shootouts with police, fireballs, or alien encounters, just a guy picking up and dropping off passengers and generally following traffic laws.  So why can't we have a hockey game with body checking, neutral zone play, and defense in it, and without skating backwards with the puck in it?  I'm not asking for full 20 minute periods with completely realistic stats, but just somewhat replicating some of the essence of the sport rather than making it Harlem Globetrotters on ice would be great.  Maybe having to ice the puck on the Penalty Kill once in a while, having to go off the glass and out when under a heavy forecheck, etc.

Are there "casual" gamers who think "Hmm COD and Elden Ring look really good, and I don't really like hockey at all, but I'm going to buy NHL 23 because you can skate backwards with the puck and there is no defense, so it is nothing like hockey, which makes me want to buy this hockey game instead of COD or Elden Ring"?  I'm not sure I get that logic.

Hockey gamers need to be a little less masochistic and think they don't deserve a good/realistic hockey game because they are a small community.  If the community of people interested in running a gas station gets a realistic game, I think the community wanting a decent hockey simulation deserves one too.

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  • @Jagavekov wrote: So essentially you are placing more responsibility on the user to make the game challenging and realistic by altering the way you play


    @Jagavekov 


    YES, we’ll kinda ! When I play a pretty good baseball simulation like THE SHOW, I try to play like the real thing of the bat. I also play player lock and remove everything from the HUD and go to the plate on the highest pitching difficulty. The game didn’t tell me to do it, I do it myself. Because I wanna feel like what it’s like to be at bat and receive a 100 MPH fastball !! Yes, I could play with OOTB difficulty and crush the AI, but why would I ? That’s not realistic to me and it’s not fun… We’ll at least not to me 😏


    @Jagavekov wrote:

    (and spending countless hours editing rosters and sliders)


    Yes, of course… Because I chose to. You are right, it’s not on me to do it, but the tools are there (even if they are not optimized) but I refuse to play the game OOTB even with the Simulation sliders because to me they are a joke ! And yes, I have spent countless hours to make the game play like I want it to, that’s because I’m a hockey freak ! lol ! And now all the tweaks and fixes I’ve done are there for everyone to use if they want… I even put out a version 2 of a roster with more Active DMen…. DMen that were left to dry by EA IMO…

    Like I said, to me playing hockey, is soooo far off what is being played online. Yes I play by my house rules like you say, but isn’t my "house rules" more like actually being on the ice and like playing this beautiful game ??

  • PernellKarl027's avatar
    PernellKarl027
    3 years ago

    @TheUnusedCrayon wrote:
    Absolutely would love to. However with the way this game is designed I'm not sure if I'll be able to tune this game to fix some huge glaring issues unfortunately.

    Goalies are way too op, you have to make things super unrealistic to get the ai to behave somewhat smart, still can't get players to take shots from the point, trying to get balance and having attributes matter is a mess, one-timers are a mess, half of the sliders aren't effective enough anymore, etc.

    NHL 20 had it going well but I'm really really struggling to tune this game well because so many aspects of the game are so unbelievably unbalanced this year. I will try my best though.

    @TheUnusedCrayon 

    I don’t know if you saw it in my sliders thread, but I found a fix/solution to the DMen taking shots from the point. I also have a 2nd version of a roster that fixes lots of the other nagging issues you are having 😀

    This video is me playing LW lock with the Sabres, so all the plays you will see from the DMen are from the AI… These plays occurred in the span of only 2 periods 😀

    https://youtu.be/Pu-4l2B1Lkk

  • Sega82mega's avatar
    Sega82mega
    3 years ago
    @PernellKarl027

    I think whats importent, in the end, is knowing how to entertain yourself, you seem to be good at that part.

    When the game gives you lemons, you make a lemonade out of it.

    Great attitude. Be careful with that! 😏👏
  • TheUnusedCrayon's avatar
    TheUnusedCrayon
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @PernellKarl027 The problem is that I'd have to start my franchise over to achieve this and even then, after new draft picks come into play it'd ruin it all over again.

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