Hitting penalties called charging don't make any sense. Need to be toned down.. how can you put in new dynamic hitting and make every hit a charging penalty

@EA_Aljo wrote:@Fadetoblack021 When you hold your hit, you're either holding the button down or pulling down on the stick. Holding that for too many strides can cause a charging call.The new mechanic has you dipping your shoulder and then pushing it up into the player. I'd like to see where someone is crouching down and then leaping into the player so I'll eagerly await that video."Eagerly await" no more, because here it is:https://youtu.be/Gzdj59A9eNo?si=2Lw2kpSSgYrumyv8Do you see the way he leaps from a standing position to check? I'm not even skating and he travels 5 feet from the momentum alone after every hit from jumping so hard. You bodycheck by tucking your elbow and using your speed to hit the player, you don't jump up elbow-out at the point of contact. Look at how far he throws his elbow out with every animation! It's just wrong. It's all wrong, this isn't how you bodycheck in hockey. It should be reverted to last year's hitting immediately.

@Dalytrev What Aljo says is actually incorrect. Skating for too long before hitting, without slowing down is why you take charging penalties. You can stand still or glide and charge your hits as long as you like. The main thing is if you have been skating more than a few strides, you need to release the left stick (i.e. glide) before you hit someone. That part is actually a real rule, see 7.4.ii from the comment above.

@EA_Aljo wrote:@couture2fat2fly wrote:@DalytrevWhat Aljo says is actually incorrect. Skating for too long before hitting, without slowing down is why you take charging penalties. You can stand still or glide and charge your hits as long as you like. The main thing is if you have been skating more than a few strides, you need to release the left stick (i.e. glide) before you hit someone. That part is actually a real rule, see 7.4.ii from the comment above.I was implying that you're still taking strides. I'll be more specific in the future.@Fadetoblack021 wrote:@EA_Aljo wrote:@Fadetoblack021 When you hold your hit, you're either holding the button down or pulling down on the stick. Holding that for too many strides can cause a charging call.The new mechanic has you dipping your shoulder and then pushing it up into the player. I'd like to see where someone is crouching down and then leaping into the player so I'll eagerly await that video."Eagerly await" no more, because here it is:https://youtu.be/Gzdj59A9eNo?si=2Lw2kpSSgYrumyv8Do you see the way he leaps from a standing position to check? I'm not even skating and he travels 5 feet from the momentum alone after every hit from jumping so hard. You bodycheck by tucking your elbow and using your speed to hit the player, you don't jump up elbow-out at the point of contact. Look at how far he throws his elbow out with every animation! It's just wrong. It's all wrong, this isn't how you bodycheck in hockey. It should be reverted to last year's hitting immediately. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. That doesn't look like a leap to me. His skates aren't leaving the ice. Like I said, the shoulder is dipped and thrust up. If they were leaping and leaving the ice, it would be a penalty.You can easily test this theory: stand up straight and then dip your shoulder and thrust it up. Does your momentum from "thrusting up your shoulder" throw you five feet across the room? If not, why would it happen on the ice?

@Fadetoblack021 Totally agree with you . Every single thing is so wrong with this years hitting . This isnt hitting its just some strange body movement that is totally wrong and I think that its strange that EA wants the hitting to be this bad . They had good hitting in nhl23 and now this .Sadly I cant play this game anymore this isnt a hockey game anymore

@recipe87 wrote:Ok. i was just in and played one game in drop in and tried a grinder with 99 in bodychecking and even with that player the hitting sucks . I dont think this is a good or fun game and it is not just the hitting that is bad . The whole game feels weird . And the penalties you get even for soft hits is just stupid . But I will leave this forum now there is no point of me writing here anymore I've said this a few times but this is 100% on you and not knowing how to do it. Hitting in this game is pretty easy and most games become a hit fest just like last year. I did the same thing as last year, loaded up hitting stats, strength, truculence and did a drop and I had 32 hits. It really isn't that difficult. If you cannot hit by this time of th3 games cycle, it is 100% on you. Also, if you think that the past games were hockey because of hitting, you really don't know hockey that well. How many games have 20 absolute destructions of players in a game? Hitting in the past was so mind numbing and easy that any build could hit. This year you have to time it and do it properly and if not, you won't and you'll whiff. Practice and you can get good at it but just sitting back saying it sucks, you want improve.

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EA_Aljo
Community Manager
2 years ago
@Fadetoblack021

I really don't think that's 5 feet. Regardless, it's not the leap you're claiming it is. If it were, it would be a penalty.
recipe87
New Ace
2 years ago
@Fadetoblack021 Totally agree with you . Every single thing is so wrong with this years hitting . This isnt hitting its just some strange body movement that is totally wrong and I think that its strange that EA wants the hitting to be this bad . They had good hitting in nhl23 and now this .Sadly I cant play this game anymore this isnt a hockey game anymore
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
2 years ago
@recipe87

Most every post of yours is complaining about hitting. I get it. You don't like the new hitting. To say this isn't a hockey game anymore though just doesn't make sense. If all you like to do is hit and now don't enjoy hitting, then you're really just wanting to be a goon. Which isn't the point of hockey. So, when you play the game in that manner, sure, it's not hockey. When you play the game as intended, it very much is though. Is it an absolutely perfect recreation of picking up a stick and hitting the ice? No and that's not what is intended. It's a hockey video game with simulation and arcade elements. As much as you'd like it, it's not a hitting simulator.
recipe87
New Ace
2 years ago
@EA_Aljo No i dont just skate around and hit i like to play good hockey and score goals too but hitting is a part of a hockey game. So you mean that nhl23 , nhl22 nhl21 etc which had good hitting was just ahitting simulator?
Fadetoblack021
Rising Vanguard
2 years ago
@EA_Aljo wrote:
@Fadetoblack021
I really don't think that's 5 feet. Regardless, it's not the leap you're claiming it is. If it were, it would be a penalty.
You're so close!
Fadetoblack021
Rising Vanguard
2 years ago
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@Fadetoblack021 wrote:Does your momentum from "thrusting up your shoulder" throw you five feet across the room?
This isn't 5 feet.
@Fadetoblack021 wrote: If not, why would it happen on the ice?
Lack of friction. Blades on Ice. The player also takes a couple of strides after the hit movement:
40 years on skates, NOT how that works. Don't make me break out Newton's third law of motion.
KidShowtime1867
Hero
2 years ago
@recipe87 wrote:
@EA_AljoNo i dont just skate around and hit i like to play good hockey and score goals too but hitting is a part of a hockey game. So you mean that nhl23 , nhl22 nhl21 etc which had good hitting was just ahitting simulator?
Hitting mechanics changed in '24. Somewhat drastically, I might add. Adaptation isn't easy for everyone. Many of us are fine with the hitting. We acknowledge our mistakes, learn and adapt.
KidShowtime1867
Hero
2 years ago
@Fadetoblack021 wrote:
40 years on skates, NOT how that works. Don't make me break out Newton's third law of motion.
So blades on ice create just as much friction as shoes on a carpet? Please, break out Newton's 3rd and educate us.
I'm literally showing a gif of the player taking strides after a hit and you're saying 'that's not how that works'.. I honesty don't get it lol
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
2 years ago
@recipe87 wrote:
@EA_Aljo No i dont just skate around and hit i like to play good hockey and score goals too but hitting is a part of a hockey game. So you mean that nhl23 , nhl22 nhl21 etc which had good hitting was just ahitting simulator?

There are also people that like the hitting in 24. You liked it in previous versions. That doesn't mean this game is not a hockey game, as you stated. It's never been a hitting simulator, but when you complain about hitting ruining the game for you and making it not feel like hockey, it seems that's all you're looking for.
Fadetoblack021
Rising Vanguard
2 years ago
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@Fadetoblack021 wrote:
40 years on skates, NOT how that works. Don't make me break out Newton's third law of motion.
So blades on ice create just as much friction as shoes on a carpet? Please, break out Newton's 3rd and educate us.
I'm literally showing a gif of the player taking strides after a hit and you're saying 'that's not how that works'.. I honesty don't get it lol
I didn't say blades make as much friction, no idea where that came from. I'll try to explain it to you more clearly.
Newton's third law states that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. In this case, if I tuck my elbow and lift my shoulder on skates it wouldn't force me to skate, glide, leap ahead, or need to take several strides to absorb all the energy from simply tucking my elbow and lifting my shoulder.
The momentum from most hits comes from your existing speed and mass. Being in a better position than the person you're hitting makes them unable to absorb the opposite force you're applying and they fall. Hopefully this sheds some light on my boy Newton.
I understand the concept of what they're attempting but the "locking in and bouncing out" animation makes it feel like I'm charging someone into their grave on every play.

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