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@EA_Aljo wrote:I've certainly bought my fair share of games second hand over the years, but keep in mind, the more legit sales of the game there are, the bigger the budget for new additions and improvements. Buying the game second hand doesn't help in this case, but I understand not wanting to spend your money on a game that you feel isn't worth it.
This is terrible advice to be honest. Why in the world would we buy these games if they don’t even get updated (talking about offline modes)
sure the gameplay is a slight degree better (allegedly) but is that really worth spending 80 dollars on?
if the game that was put out was polished, and there were legitimate, meaningful changes to the game, then people would buy it and not wait to buy it secondhand.
but that never happens. Hasn’t happened in years now.
supposedly there’s plans to update the offline mode in the future, sure. But how long? And what? Locking us out of more customization options? Removing scouts? There isn’t very many silver linings here, especially after years of us complaining that we’re mostly ignored every year.
and this year, we were TRULLY, fully ignored.the only new things we’re seeing is base mechanics that every mode gets. Nothing new at all.
- @Sega82mega So from watching various videos of the various people who have played the game.....
Checking now works like this. Pressing just up on the right stick will give a shove type animation. So it's not really a great hit but more of a controlled state. Now to do big hits it is apparently like doing a slapshot where you wind back on the right stick and then up to deliver a devastating type hit.
Also been said in at least 1 video that LTing is next to dead, but that is definitely a wait and see imo. - bg0vzeyqov1y2 years agoNew Veteran@007hockey Yeah no way I'm spending 90$CAD yearly on a sports game made by a billion dollar company that doesn't even have basic appearance editing throughout the entire game, let alone a game mode looking/ functioning 80 - 90% the same each time. Franchise mode is miserable to play.
- EA_Aljo2 years agoCommunity Manager
@007hockey wrote:
@EA_Aljo wrote:
I've certainly bought my fair share of games second hand over the years, but keep in mind, the more legit sales of the game there are, the bigger the budget for new additions and improvements. Buying the game second hand doesn't help in this case, but I understand not wanting to spend your money on a game that you feel isn't worth it.
This is terrible advice to be honest. Why in the world would we buy these games if they don’t even get updated (talking about offline modes)
sure the gameplay is a slight degree better (allegedly) but is that really worth spending 80 dollars on?
if the game that was put out was polished, and there were legitimate, meaningful changes to the game, then people would buy it and not wait to buy it secondhand.
but that never happens. Hasn’t happened in years now.
supposedly there’s plans to update the offline mode in the future, sure. But how long? And what? Locking us out of more customization options? Removing scouts? There isn’t very many silver linings here, especially after years of us complaining that we’re mostly ignored every year.
and this year, we were TRULLY, fully ignored.the only new things we’re seeing is base mechanics that every mode gets. Nothing new at all.
I was only commenting on how fewer sales don't help get those offline features added. With the majority of people playing online modes, there's obviously a heavy focus there. As stated, there are long term plans for offline modes. It's absolutely unfortunate that isn't reflected in 24. I can't state how much I would have loved for offline to get more attention and I'm not even an offline player.
- kyl_352 years agoSeasoned Ace
@EA_Aljo wrote:
@007hockey wrote:
@EA_Aljo wrote:I've certainly bought my fair share of games second hand over the years, but keep in mind, the more legit sales of the game there are, the bigger the budget for new additions and improvements. Buying the game second hand doesn't help in this case, but I understand not wanting to spend your money on a game that you feel isn't worth it.
This is terrible advice to be honest. Why in the world would we buy these games if they don’t even get updated (talking about offline modes)
sure the gameplay is a slight degree better (allegedly) but is that really worth spending 80 dollars on?
if the game that was put out was polished, and there were legitimate, meaningful changes to the game, then people would buy it and not wait to buy it secondhand.
but that never happens. Hasn’t happened in years now.
supposedly there’s plans to update the offline mode in the future, sure. But how long? And what? Locking us out of more customization options? Removing scouts? There isn’t very many silver linings here, especially after years of us complaining that we’re mostly ignored every year.
and this year, we were TRULLY, fully ignored.the only new things we’re seeing is base mechanics that every mode gets. Nothing new at all.
I was only commenting on how fewer sales don't help get those offline features added. With the majority of people playing online modes, there's obviously a heavy focus there. As stated, there are long term plans for offline modes. It's absolutely unfortunate that isn't reflected in 24. I can't state how much I would have loved for offline to get more attention and I'm not even an offline player.
Seeing as you have to read our complaints every day I 100% believe your last sentence, lol. I feel for you on some days.
But yeah, when I buy second hand, I’ll be connected to the network when I play FM so you should get that data on what’s being played regardless. If anything I’m potentially converting a sale from an online only player into an offline sale.
- bg0vzeyqov1y2 years agoNew Veteran
@EA_AljoI get what you're saying and i'd love all game modes/ all players to be satisfied! But EA is worth billions of dollars, they can easily afford to put budget into revamping franchise mode even with fewer sales. As mentioned before thank you for sympathizing with all the community!
90$CAD just to play the almost identical core game mode just with a new roster (as heavily mentioned one we cant do basic edits in like hair, playstyle etc. ) to me that's not worth it. Tho if roster/ franchise mode player editing is opened up (even just any basics I've mentioned)I will be heavily considering getting 24 (One of my main gripes with this mode is appearance, everyone looks either an old balding man or a sea of clones, I dont want to spend so much time creating a team/ franchise mode only to have the future of said team looking like a mess lol i'll just want to start over more frequently) I physically can't for 90$ unless it's THE hockey game of all hockey games lol
- Beauts902 years agoSeasoned Ace
It certainly sounds like the goal for franchise mode is to move it online.
It’s obviously the right call, but unless they address the core issues of the mode online connected will probably fail as well.It will appeal to those that can find a solid group of 32, but I’m sure trolls will find a way to ruin it as there will be exploits for gameplay and team building.
As always I hope I’m wrong about that and we will have to wait and see how it goes.
If they at least addressed the problems that have been in these modes for the last couple years it might be worth a purchase even without anything new. That’s a sad statement to make.
I’ve been lucky enough to get the game for free the last few years and will try and continue that trend before buying. - jjbyrd042 years agoRising Veteran
@Beauts90 wrote:It's almost comical at this point.
The NHL series in a nutshell.
"That's for changes. On the other hand, fans of the "Franchise" and "Be a pro" game modes will be disappointed since there is no modification in these modes.
Mike Inglehart, creative director of NHL 24, says, “We haven't put our energies into offline game modes."
https://twitter.com/theclapperton/status/1691834475964137762?s=61&t=49eGosQ9ksIfzmr2a5iAzQ
Dude, it's like they're deliberately trying to alienate us so we don't buy the game so they can justify removing Franchise and Be A Pro all together.
- Juhani_91_912 years agoSeasoned Ace
About me is sadly, that EA Sports want focus only to online game modes and forget offline players. I understand, that online game modes are popular, but still there are players, who don't care online game modes. And these players EA Sports has forgot, when they are developing the game for players, who playing online game modes. For example on creation zone is lot off things, whom should update or fixed. In EAFC and Madden we can play matches neutral stadium, but not in NHL, hopefully EA Sports added this feature to NHL 24.
I'm old school gamer, who don't care online game modes. I play lot of single matches and use creation zone, when I create players and own teams. Would be awesome, if EA Sports could returned EA Sports World Tournament game mode to the game, that we can create own tournaments. In FIFA 23 this is possible, it's nice create own tournaments to the game. In NHL video game series this, possibility ended, when moving to PS 4 era. Dear EA Sports don't forget offline players, when you development NHL videogame. - bg0vzeyqov1y2 years agoNew Veteran@jjbyrd04 I skipped 23 cause the presentation was a straight scam and the franchise mode "improvement" meant nothing to me, so literal nothing will definitely make me skip 24.
The gameplay better be the most flawless, realest simulation of hockey in existence for me to even consider this at any price, If we're really getting ZERO franchise mode/ roster editing improvements. It full on feels like we're being alienated from these games.
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