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- Tigidooh2 years agoRising Ace
@KidShowtime1867Yeah well, dekes if you want. But I should rightfully not be forced in protect puck if I use both at the same time. There was no problem using it that way before and I should be in my right to use it like this again. I'm not the one that all of a sudden decided to change and force the new controls on us, remember? I never asked for it and never wanted it.
I'm pretty rough on my left stick, I'm clicking it more than I even realise it, it's innevitable for me and probably tons of others too.
And look if you guys are such in love with a bad buttons combo and feel comfortable with it, good! But I'm not and all I ask is the option to move it or disable it. I want the hustle on that button and nothing else. I'm not asking for a complete rebuild or anything, just to give the players options.
@Tigidooh wrote:@KidShowtime1867Yeah well, dekes if you want. But I should rightfully not be forced in protect puck if I use both at the same time
You're not forced into protect puck. You can't hustle while holding the puck forehand or backhand. Despite what you claim, it's NEVER been possible to hustle and hold the puck out at the same time. It's just that in NHL '24, EA decided to double up LS as a protect puck because the HUSTLE mechanic is disabled at that time anyway plus with other control changes, protect puck needed a new home.
@Tigidooh wrote:I'm not the one that all of a sudden decided to change and force the new controls on us, remember? I never asked for it and never wantedIt's not about you. EA gets asked to freshen the game up every year. I actually enjoy the new control system because I understand it's the way the developers intended players to get the most out of NHL 24. Why just stick with the old hybrid controls when there is another control scheme meant to get the most out of the game?
@Tigidooh wrote:
And look if you guys are such in love with a bad buttons combo and feel comfortable with it, good! But I'm not and all I ask is the option to move it or disable it. I want the hustle on that button and nothing else. I'm not asking for a complete rebuild or anything, just to give the players options.You're asking to be able to hustle while holding the puck forehand/backhand. This is unrealistic.
- Tigidooh2 years agoRising Ace
@KidShowtime1867Yes and no. I know I cant take speed while going backhand /forehand and vice versa but even then I will have my thumb pressed on the stick for a few more secondes after using it most of the time. Hell, even when I'm just moving left and right, do sketchy moves or just casually moving around I'll press it mostly involuntary or instinctively preparing to hustle again or not. In other words it's not that much about doing dekes while I hustle (I know I cant) but more about not being forced in puck protect when I do so...or even when I just normally skate around if I accidentally press L3. Not sure if I'm clear on what I'm saying there but anyway.
As someone else mentioned there also seems to have a little delay as your guy stay in puck protect a little longer.
It's simple, I dont want the puck protect to trigger when I press L3. - hiperay2 years agoSeasoned Veteran@Tigidooh When you accidentally press something, that is not the games fault, but your own. Sorry to be blunt but this is due to the change of controls being more difficult and require more skill to use correctly. As for part of the reason it was changed was because it made it extremely easy to go from a hustle to your forehand or backhand on goaltenders, making breakaways impossible for them to save. Now it requires more skill to be able to perform correctly and it is up to you to improve that skill, not to request the game to decrease the difficulty IMO.
- Tigidooh2 years agoRising Ace
@hiperay
To decrease the game difficulty? You're saying this as if clicking L3 to protect the puck was a thing since they introduced skill stick while it's literally new this year. Not everyone play the same, some can be really smooth with their controller, other are just.. ''rougher'' with it or have heavy thumbs. It's the best I can explain it I guess, I'm tense on my hold.
EA added one touch dekes on advanced dekes to make the game easier...but I can't ask for a change on a awkward buttons combo that doesnt work for me? Saying it would decrease the game difficulties?....It's not even about making the game easier or harder in this case, it's about changing something that I do that isnt intended.
It's also an habit to play like this for so long, it's my playstyle, I can't help it.
You guys all act as if it was something part of the game since ever and that I was just complaining about it out of the blue while in fact, it was introduced and forced on us this year after like 16 years of skill stick habits whether or not it suit us. So please, stop acting as if I was the problem here.
Transitioning to backhand/forehand after hustle isnt particularly unrealistic in the first place...it's still better than going in protect puck during a breakaway or when you're about to dekes the goalie.
Anyway, like I said before, I'm not asking to throw away the control, it obviously suit many peoples and if you guys are fine with it, then good. But I want alternative/options to remap the puck protect trigger to a paddles or the option to disable it altogether, nothing more nothing less. It' a rather small request and everyone can have it their way.
You guys wonder why there's so much critisims about the game but yet keep blaming the players about certain concerns as if it was our fault everytime...even on the smallest request as this one.
Cheers. - EA_Aljo2 years ago
Community Manager
@Tigidooh wrote:
You guys wonder why there's so much critisims about the game but yet keep blaming the players about certain concerns as if it was our fault everytime...even on the smallest request as this one.I don't think this is a situation where players are being blamed. There's not much that can be done other than using a lighter touch or getting a controller with extra buttons that functions can be remapped to. I definitely understand that some of us haven't been able to adapt to not clicking down on the sticks accidentally.
- Tigidooh2 years agoRising Ace
@EA_Aljo
With all due respect Aljo, I'm literally being blamed for it being told it's solely my fault, so yeah.
Remember the changes done to reverse hit due to misclick? How is the same can't be applied to protect puck? It's exactly the same issue.
You can't just ask peoples to have a lighter touch, we're all different, it's not that simple, if it was, I wouldnt be here asking for fo it.
@Tigidooh wrote:I'm literally being blamed for it being told it's solely my fault, so yeah.
It is and it isn't.
It's clear that those who struggle with accidentally clicking the sticks are putting unnecessary downward pressure while making simple adjustments to the directions the sticks are pointing. Or they're using controllers with defects that make the sensitivity of the click, too high.
NHL is unique in it's the only game I can think of (that I've played) that has a mechanic which combines an RS hold (forehand/backhand) with a LS click (enable puck protect). I think the last time I encountered that was some kind of lock-picking minigame in Splinter Cell. Not to mention these inputs need to be made in quick succession, usually during in-game scenarios that are frantic and fast.
So although the user can be blamed for being a little too hard on the sticks, the unique scenarios in which the NHL games require the user to execute these inputs may lend itself to being triggered accidentally more often than in other games.
- EA_Aljo2 years ago
Community Manager
Apologies. I read that as us here at EA are blaming the player. Which is something that I've seen numerous times over the years. I fully understand how you feel about the controls as they echo my own sentiments. Personally, I think it's partly a skill issue. There's some skill associated with having a lighter touch. That's just how some people play though. Just like there are those of us with a tighter grip and a heavier touch. The NHL games are intense. Especially with how competitive we all can be. We rely on a lot of muscle memory. Something we've done for the last couple of decades with the old controls. I'm definitely an advocate for adapting. I gave it a good shot. I spent a couple months trying to and just couldn't retrain myself to not click down on the sticks. Unfortunately, I just couldn't get it. So, I think it's more about our nature with how we handle controllers than actual skill.
I don't see the controls changing any time soon. They are most likely staying this way for the foreseeable future. We're either going to have to adapt or remap the controls. The latter isn't ideal, but it's been a very good solution for myself. With as much as I play this game, investing in a controller with this functionality has been worth it.
- Tigidooh2 years agoRising Ace
@KidShowtime1867You're not wrong the way you words it. I'm indeed putting unnecessary pressure on the stick, but I cant help it, it's not something connected to NHL only, I do it in every games but it's much worse in NHL, I'm quite competitive and NHL is full of micro action/reactions? Not sure if it make sense? Thats why I'm particularly intense on my hold in this game, every half seconde decisions matter. Again, I can't just help it...See it as an handicap, I dont think it's something I will ever be able to change. See it as real players, some has smooth as hell hands a la McDavid, and others have hands forged in stone a la Weber lol.
And to all of a sudden tell me to adapt to something I'm used to for so long...is quite a stretch when it come to something that mess up your controls. You can also see it as many players ignoring lots of advanced dekes...you can ask them to practice it as many times as you can but will never get the hang of it during the intensity of the game.
But at least I can ignore doing dekes I'm bad at, lets say manually do the michigan....but I cant get away with controls literally on my controls way. And I cant remap it in the xbox controls due to both puck protect and hustle being on the same button.
I wish I had lighty tiny hands, thrust me but I'm a dinosaur with a controler.
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