Statement on NHL 25 Cheating and Competitive Integrity

Well look what the cat dragged in. Lol Regardless, thanks for your input. You've already confirmed a few things for my next post, keep in mind this is my 1st post ever, which should says something, I love EA's NHL and care enough to ask for change to make it better. You know that this game is far from perfect and dropping in player count speaks volumes. LT is broken and a problem. Also, I making a knew post on what can be addressed to make the game closer to hockey instead of an exploit repetitive goal hockey. 

At least we can agree there the game isn't perfect, it doesn't have to be. That's not the point. If you play, you should be aware of the overly repetitive Goal styles that I can exploit which I can choose to do but rather not. If this is the new way to " play good "  then we are removing a big fun factor when it comes to competitive play. 

BTW I've met Elite 1/Diamond 1 teams that beat us without using these " repetitive  Goal styles. Some we have beaten too. The very few teams that have beaten us in that way have always been fun to play and exposed where we were weak. They made us look internally ( accountability) and switch our game plan while being excited to learn from more great teams. 

I have faith, if I didn't I wouldn't be here. The population is LOW on Relaxed. Remember the days when it was Normal or even high? That should be a reality check. 

gkai613 wrote:

this is my 1st post ever, which should says something

It doesn't say anything other than you've chosen not to post here before.

gkai613 wrote:

dropping in player count speaks volumes.

What player count are you referring to?

gkai613 wrote:

LT is broken and a problem.

It's not 'broken' - but it can currently be abused to negate slowdowns while skating at high speeds. 

gkai613 wrote:

I making a knew post on what can be addressed to make the game closer to hockey instead of an exploit repetitive goal hockey. 

Repetitive defending = repetitive goals. If you're seeing the same goals scored on you, you're playing the same defence. 

gkai613 wrote:

If this is the new way to " play good "  then we are removing a big fun factor when it comes to competitive play. 

Being adept in an online competitive sports game means you need to learn how to defend the scenarios/setups/goals that players commonly use. Most people who deem this game 'broken' and 'exploitative' typically venture into competitive modes where the skill-level is far above what they're used to and get completely steamrolled. This can seem like your opponents are 'exploiting' element of the game (and in rare cases, that might be true) but the reality is that they're exposing poor defending styles that lend themselves to the 'always' goals you see more often than not. 

example; not many people use defensive skill stick to angle puck carriers. They will then complain that players are able to just 'skate right by their d-men' and insist it's because the game is broken. 

gkai613 wrote:

BTW I've met Elite 1/Diamond 1 teams that beat us without using these " repetitive  Goal styles. Some we have beaten too. The very few teams that have beaten us in that way have always been fun to play and exposed where we were weak. They made us look internally ( accountability) and switch our game plan while being excited to learn from more great teams. 

Your team's defensive posturing has a hole that's easily exposed by highly skilled players. 

gkai613 wrote:

The population is LOW on Relaxed. Remember the days when it was Normal or even high? That should be a reality check. 

EA has introduced so many different ways to play WoC, the population has thinned out as people enjoy Ones, Threes, 3v3, 6v6, Eliminator, Drop-ins, etc. Combined with the popularity of HUT - it's no surprise the herd has been thinned out. EA needs to find ways to make these modes interoperable. 

For example; allowing a WoC team to take control of a member's HUT team for special games, rewards, etc. Allowing a HUT player to play against this week's Squad - while allowing the Squad team to be controlled by WoC drop-in players looking for games. I think the possibilities are endless. 

Thanks for the continued input.

At least we can agree there the game isn't perfect, it doesn't have to be. That's not the point. If you play, you should be aware of the overly repetitive Goal styles that I can exploit which I can choose to do but rather not. If this is the new way to " play good "  then we are removing a big fun factor when it comes to competitive play. 

How often do you see a goal scored in real world hockey that you've never seen before? They're probably more uncommon than you think. Teams will use every advantage they can. Which means knowing their opponent's weaknesses and exploiting those. The same applies the video game. If I notice my opponent going for D to D one Ts, I'm going to adjust my strategies and cover the points better. If they're only going for short side/far side shots from the slot, I'll pressure them harder when they skate into the slot. The same goes for cheesing tips and rebounds. I'll adjust strategies and play lower so I can block those shots and pick up the rebounds. They are taking advantage of what you're giving them.

My club does exactly this. We recognize a team's weakness and exploit that. We tend to work the puck around and find someone open and put good shots on net. Not every time. Just like everyone else, we'll throw some shots on and hope for the best. Which, again, is a part of hockey. The least-threatening shots and turn into a goal just from a good bounce or a lucky rebound. 

The population isn't as low as being assumed. Yes, it says low in the matchmaking. I get that. Still, my club consistently is finding new clubs to play. Our matchmaking is quick as well. Low or not, all that matters is that we quickly find different teams to play and that hasn't been an issue. We regularly play 5s and 6s.

Again, the game isn't perfect. I'm well aware of that. The gameplay is pretty solid though. Especially in WoC when you have 5 skaters. If you're playing 2s, it's probably more challenging since you're relying on the AI to stop teams from taking those shots. Especially if you're running with 2 human forwards.

You're more than welcome to get some video of the exploits you're talking about. I'm always happy to get them reviewed for any issues.

To the original post er, please don't let these White Knights and gas lighters sway you from the truth. This game especially this year is a infestation of cheaters. My crew and I can make a club and cruise to division one pretty easily but is quite clear that the higher up you go the more and more cheating exists in the game. It's really really bad and it's no surprise that the fires and purples tend to do it more and blatantly obvious. You are correct. They don't try to hide it. They score 90% of this shots. It take from anywhere garbage shots. I have so many videos and clips of absolute f****** garbage and it has nothing to do with RNG. They have nothing to gain the community managers and the white night Heroes here from admitting that they won't or can't do anything about it. It's not all together unique to NHL either online gaming in general has become absolutely rampant with cheating and it's destroying online gaming in general. Until developers stop being lazy and take serious steps to address this issue. They will continue to lose player accounts across the board until nobody plays online anymore or very few or only the cheaters against other cheaters. I didn't be quite clear. I do not care what any community manager, hero or White Knight or Peter trying to gaslight people into thinking it's a skill issue. Say. This game has a serious cheating problem.  Period. 

MA7ERICK wrote:

This game especially this year is a infestation of cheaters.

Post a single video of something you consider 'cheating'.

MA7ERICK wrote:

the higher up you go the more and more cheating exists in the game.

Coincidentally, the higher up you go.. the more skilled your opponents are at the game.

MA7ERICK wrote:

fires and purples tend to do it more and blatantly obvious.

blatantly? Perfect. Then it should be super easy to grab a single clip of this 'cheating'.

MA7ERICK wrote:

I have so many videos and clips of absolute f****** garbage

Then post them! 

MA7ERICK wrote:

They have nothing to gain the community managers and the white night Heroes here from admitting that they won't or can't do anything about it.

The only people having trouble admitting anything are the people who refuse to believe that there are players and teams out there that are simply better at the game.

MA7ERICK wrote:

. I do not care what any community manager, hero or White Knight or Peter trying to gaslight people into thinking it's a skill issue. Say. This game has a serious cheating problem.  Period. 

Post a single video of something you consider cheating. It should be easy, considering you've already claimed to have captured "so many videos and clips" of this so-called 'cheating'. Let's see them!

I don't need to see them, I have tons of my own videos and I fully understand what people are saying. I'm just wondering why you always defend this game and do not respect that other players may have different experiences. We are here to share our own experiences after we played hundreds of matches during the whole season. Is it hard to understand? 

If someone is legitimately cheating at the game, we need to see this. A high percentage shot or exploiting LT/L2 are not cheating, but people often claim they are.

I agree, this is definitely not cheating. Regarding LT/L2 exploit, game should be better balanced. If you skate fast while using LT, sometimes you should simply loose the puck, puck control should be lowered, speed itself should be lowered, shot or pass from that move should be less precise or something like that. I hope, 26 will fix this. 

Ampereturn wrote:

We are here to share our own experiences after we played hundreds of matches during the whole season. Is it hard to understand? 

Claiming people are cheating without providing a lick of evidence is not sharing an experience. It's a deliberate and outright claim that people are cheating. 

Ampereturn wrote:

I don't need to see them, I have tons of my own videos and I fully understand what people are saying.

Post a single video then. Just one. Post a video of something you think proves people are 'cheating'.