I’ve been playing this game for a little over 2 months now, at 1st I never really liked the game but now, I think it’s very good and fun to play, I levelled up my golfer in that time and it has really helped, it’s not perfect but none of them are. I’ve been playing golf games ever since the good ole Commodore 64 days and this has become my favorite. People need to lighten up with all the complaining, geesh.
@BhamelWhile I don't agree with all your points, I do agree that 2K23 feels like I am being bombarded with an ad everytime I go back to the main menu.
2K23 is different, though I agree it was not a very big change from 2K21.... it is signficant enough.
But if you play 2K at higher difficulty levels it plays much more realistic than EA. When I was playing EA I was only using about 5 shot types... it was all you needed, and some are overpowered to put you beside the pin everytime.
But I agree competition SHOULD create better games. But first you need to be considered a threat. At this time I don't see 2K being too comcerned. It seems 2K has a firm grasp of their community, EA has done nothing to steal their usergroup.
As golf fanatics I'm sure every 2K player either bought or at least tried EA PGA Tour... which is probably why EA's initial online involvement was so high. But after playing, these players have migrated back to 2K.
EA needs to step up and make a better game, or at least one more inclusive of all types of players.
@Bhamelcomplain about complainers?
@ELF014 wrote:
@BhamelWhile I don't agree with all your points, I do agree that 2K23 feels like I am being bombarded with an ad everytime I go back to the main menu.
2K23 is different, though I agree it was not a very big change from 2K21.... it is signficant enough.
But if you play 2K at higher difficulty levels it plays much more realistic than EA. When I was playing EA I was only using about 5 shot types... it was all you needed, and some are overpowered to put you beside the pin everytime.
But I agree competition SHOULD create better games. But first you need to be considered a threat. At this time I don't see 2K being too comcerned. It seems 2K has a firm grasp of their community, EA has done nothing to steal their usergroup.
As golf fanatics I'm sure every 2K player either bought or at least tries EA PGA Tour... which is probably why EA's initial online support was so high. But after playing these players have migrated back to 2K.
EA needs to step up and make a better game, or at least one more inclusive of all types of players.
I do admit I did enjoy playing 2k21, I had close to 3 years of play into it, it just seemed like all I did was hit the ball, go chase it down, and do the same thing again and again and again, not much thinking about the next shot and that same announcer in both games, uggggh. This game just feels different, more thinking about the next shot and with all the things you can adjust in the menus, they made the game user friendly for just about everyone from beginners like me to people like you 😃 I did a bit of research before diving in and made the golfers kinda weak in the career mode, call me a cheater (wimp will do) but I won a few tournaments and used the coins to up my golfers ability, poor Scotty and the boys were only shooting -5 or close to that, it looked good on them, now that my golfer is up there a bit I made the other tournaments a bit tougher to win. I do hope they make money and continue to make the game even better, I do prefer it over playing my 2k21 and 2k had maybe 5 years or so head start ( they did give up on Tiger Woods in 08 I know) I have the game on a cd somewhere around here and, the people working on this game are probably a whole new team. I bet giving these guys 5 more years ( a long time I know to wait) It will be pretty darn good, it is NOW for me, if people don’t support it though, I think we all know what will happen. Merry Christmas to you.
@bhamel wrote:
@ELF014 wrote:
@BhamelWhile I don't agree with all your points, I do agree that 2K23 feels like I am being bombarded with an ad everytime I go back to the main menu.
2K23 is different, though I agree it was not a very big change from 2K21.... it is signficant enough.
But if you play 2K at higher difficulty levels it plays much more realistic than EA. When I was playing EA I was only using about 5 shot types... it was all you needed, and some are overpowered to put you beside the pin everytime.
But I agree competition SHOULD create better games. But first you need to be considered a threat. At this time I don't see 2K being too comcerned. It seems 2K has a firm grasp of their community, EA has done nothing to steal their usergroup.
As golf fanatics I'm sure every 2K player either bought or at least tries EA PGA Tour... which is probably why EA's initial online support was so high. But after playing these players have migrated back to 2K.
EA needs to step up and make a better game, or at least one more inclusive of all types of players.I do admit I did enjoy playing 2k21, I had close to 3 years of play into it, it just seemed like all I did was hit the ball, go chase it down, and do the same thing again and again and again, not much thinking about the next shot and that same announcer in both games, uggggh. This game just feels different, more thinking about the next shot and with all the things you can adjust in the menus, they made the game user friendly for just about everyone from beginners like me to people like you 😃 I did a bit of research before diving in and made the golfers kinda weak in the career mode, call me a cheater (wimp will do) but I won a few tournaments and used the coins to up my golfers ability, poor Scotty and the boys were only shooting -5 or close to that, it looked good on them, now that my golfer is up there a bit I made the other tournaments a bit tougher to win. I do hope they make money and continue to make the game even better, I do prefer it over playing my 2k21 and 2k had maybe 5 years or so head start ( they did give up on Tiger Woods in 08 I know) I have the game on a cd somewhere around here and, the people working on this game are probably a whole new team. I bet giving these guys 5 more years ( a long time I know to wait) It will be pretty darn good, it is NOW for me, if people don’t support it though, I think we all know what will happen. Merry Christmas to you.
Well.... what a cordial response, something I am not accustomed too on this forum. Someone with who it seems we can have a discussion with.
I would disagree with your assessment of 2K, 2K23 increased the roll out and speed of the greens immensely from 2K21. As well they introduced SPEC's for equipment as well as SKILLS and ARCHETYPE for the player. I think these are significant changes to the franchise.
I like the player changes, but I would much rather that the attributes stayed on the equipment.. if you want to build specs on that I would be okay with it. But currently I have no reason to buy a Season Pass as it does nothing to improve my play.
In 2K21 I bought a Season Pass just to get a Titleist Wedge because I liked the specs on it. With equipment being cosmetic only there is no incentive for me to spend my money. I was really sad that EA took the same route... there is no reason to even buy different clubs to test because they all play the same.
As for your experience with 2K23 which I find different with EA... on more difficult courses if you are out of position you are not making par. Being above the hole with the green sloping away from you... you are not making par. The problem is you need to have intimate knowledge of the course... the second time through a course on 2K I do a lot more course management. I know where to leave the ball, whether I am going to try and run it up or ensure I hit the ball beyond the flag.
With EA, I neve felt it mattered... I let EA do what it wants with the RNG, and once I am in range of my short game... I can flop or pick to 3 feet or less. If I am on the collar you can use chipping like a putt and be within a few feet once you get a feel for the roll out (in general about 50% in the air and 50% roll out on a flat surface).
This game may get there in 5 years, but they had every advantage to get it right from the start. They had a game they owned to draw from, and saw what the competition was offering before they even started this project and this is what EA delivered.
If I was starting a new IP, I would see what we had done that was successful... what the competition was currently doing that was successful... and what we could do to improve on it. I don't see any of this was taken into consideration, it feels like they just built what they wanted. That they would build it and people would buy it because of the EA brand.
I only play golf games now, and have so for over a decade. So I can't speak for the EA franchise... but from reading on this forum, the EA name doesn't carry the same impact as it did in the 90's when they produced quality and innovative products.
I have been playing for a month or so (all single player only), enjoying the game very much.
For several years prior, I played the 2k series. I was really ready for a change of pace from that other series, and so far PGA Tour has been delivering. Good fun playing full 18 hole rounds on a course, and it's been fun playing the abbreviated "Quick" rounds in the Career Amateur Tournaments.
@agentputt wrote:
@BhamelSome excellent points !
Merry Christmas 😊
From some knowledgeable people Agent 👏 I’m still relatively new at the game. I just hope it does well and come to think of it, they must have paid a pretty penny for the licenses to many of the things in the game so I do think there is better things to come from them, fingers 🤞 crossed. Take care.
@ELF014 wrote:
@bhamel wrote:
@ELF014 wrote:
@BhamelWhile I don't agree with all your points, I do agree that 2K23 feels like I am being bombarded with an ad everytime I go back to the main menu.
2K23 is different, though I agree it was not a very big change from 2K21.... it is signficant enough.
But if you play 2K at higher difficulty levels it plays much more realistic than EA. When I was playing EA I was only using about 5 shot types... it was all you needed, and some are overpowered to put you beside the pin everytime.
But I agree competition SHOULD create better games. But first you need to be considered a threat. At this time I don't see 2K being too comcerned. It seems 2K has a firm grasp of their community, EA has done nothing to steal their usergroup.
As golf fanatics I'm sure every 2K player either bought or at least tries EA PGA Tour... which is probably why EA's initial online support was so high. But after playing these players have migrated back to 2K.
EA needs to step up and make a better game, or at least one more inclusive of all types of players.I do admit I did enjoy playing 2k21, I had close to 3 years of play into it, it just seemed like all I did was hit the ball, go chase it down, and do the same thing again and again and again, not much thinking about the next shot and that same announcer in both games, uggggh. This game just feels different, more thinking about the next shot and with all the things you can adjust in the menus, they made the game user friendly for just about everyone from beginners like me to people like you 😃 I did a bit of research before diving in and made the golfers kinda weak in the career mode, call me a cheater (wimp will do) but I won a few tournaments and used the coins to up my golfers ability, poor Scotty and the boys were only shooting -5 or close to that, it looked good on them, now that my golfer is up there a bit I made the other tournaments a bit tougher to win. I do hope they make money and continue to make the game even better, I do prefer it over playing my 2k21 and 2k had maybe 5 years or so head start ( they did give up on Tiger Woods in 08 I know) I have the game on a cd somewhere around here and, the people working on this game are probably a whole new team. I bet giving these guys 5 more years ( a long time I know to wait) It will be pretty darn good, it is NOW for me, if people don’t support it though, I think we all know what will happen. Merry Christmas to you.
Well.... what a cordial response, something I am not accustomed too on this forum. Someone with who it seems we can have a discussion with.
I would disagree with your assessment of 2K, 2K23 increased the roll out and speed of the greens immensely from 2K21. As well they introduced SPEC's for equipment as well as SKILLS and ARCHETYPE for the player. I think these are significant changes to the franchise.
I like the player changes, but I would much rather that the attributes stayed on the equipment.. if you want to build specs on that I would be okay with it. But currently I have no reason to buy a Season Pass as it does nothing to improve my play.
In 2K21 I bought a Season Pass just to get a Titleist Wedge because I liked the specs on it. With equipment being cosmetic only there is no incentive for me to spend my money. I was really sad that EA took the same route... there is no reason to even buy different clubs to test because they all play the same.
As for your experience with 2K23 which I find different with EA... on more difficult courses if you are out of position you are not making par. Being above the hole with the green sloping away from you... you are not making par. The problem is you need to have intimate knowledge of the course... the second time through a course on 2K I do a lot more course management. I know where to leave the ball, whether I am going to try and run it up or ensure I hit the ball beyond the flag.
With EA, I neve felt it mattered... I let EA do what it wants with the RNG, and once I am in range of my short game... I can flop or pick to 3 feet or less. If I am on the collar you can use chipping like a putt and be within a few feet once you get a feel for the roll out (in general about 50% in the air and 50% roll out on a flat surface).
This game may get there in 5 years, but they had every advantage to get it right from the start. They had a game they owned to draw from, and saw what the competition was offering before they even started this project and this is what EA delivered.
If I was starting a new IP, I would see what we had done that was successful... what the competition was currently doing that was successful... and what we could do to improve on it. I don't see any of this was taken into consideration, it feels like they just built what they wanted. That they would build it and people would buy it because of the EA brand.
I only play golf games now, and have so for over a decade. So I can't speak for the EA franchise... but from reading on this forum, the EA name doesn't carry the same impact as it did in the 90's when they produced quality and innovative products.
I never gave 2k23 a fair chance I’ll admit, I had just purchased this game and needed something new and fresh and stuck it out with it, I’m glad I did now cuz at 1st I was not impressed. I never played my 2k21 on the toughest settings but close. I played in a few of the daily tournaments with this game and some of them were crazy tough, no green grid, no lines anywhere lol, even the wind didn’t give a good indication where it was coming from, that was TOUGH, at least for me.
I believe they have different programmers this time around from the Tiger group and some of them might not know enough about golf, I think some do though and they might have to let a few people go here and there and get some new programmers in their places.
They probably thought the game was good enough to roll out but from what I read at launch in the steam forums, there was no chance I was purchasing this game so I waited about 6 months, now there seems to be many more decent, positive, reviews on steam compared to launch so some progress has been made.
I play golf games 90% of the time myself, just something about them that does it for me over any other type of game, I play them even more in the winter 🥶 when it’s cold out ( I’m in Canada ) Nothing like sitting back in my lazy boy and playing a good round of golf ⛳️. Take care and I/WE hope the game improves even more. Thanks a bunch.
@fc6544a3aa338ce0 wrote:I have been playing for a month or so (all single player only), enjoying the game very much.
For several years prior, I played the 2k series. I was really ready for a change of pace from that other series, and so far PGA Tour has been delivering. Good fun playing full 18 hole rounds on a course, and it's been fun playing the abbreviated "Quick" rounds in the Career Amateur Tournaments.
I’m still very new as well and I’m really enjoying the game too, I have a ways to go still making small adjustments here and there to make the game tougher as I go, there are plenty of things to tweak that’s for sure.
I think a lot of people might have spent their coins on golf clubs in the store when they should have spent them on specs, the clubs are cosmetic from what I read but the specs are what should be purchased to make your golfer better, people might have got bummed if that’s what they did, I would have done the same thing if it wasn’t for research. I’m not sure if this link will post but I’m going to try and add it, it’s for all the specs on the golf clubs and balls, it changes every day. Happy swinging and Merry Christmas.
@bhamel wrote:
@fc6544a3aa338ce0 wrote:I have been playing for a month or so (all single player only), enjoying the game very much.
For several years prior, I played the 2k series. I was really ready for a change of pace from that other series, and so far PGA Tour has been delivering. Good fun playing full 18 hole rounds on a course, and it's been fun playing the abbreviated "Quick" rounds in the Career Amateur Tournaments.
I’m still very new as well and I’m really enjoying the game too, I have a ways to go still making small adjustments here and there to make the game tougher as I go, there are plenty of things to tweak that’s for sure.
I think a lot of people might have spent their coins on golf clubs in the store when they should have spent them on specs, the clubs are cosmetic from what I read but the specs are what should be purchased to make your golfer better, people might have got bummed if that’s what they did when they realized nothing happened, I would have done the same thing if it wasn’t for research. I’m not sure if this link will post but I’m going to try and add it, it’s for all the specs on the golf clubs and balls, I only purchased the top clubs in each category. What’s available to purchase is highlighted in green in the right column, it changes every day. Happy swinging and Merry Christmas.
