Community Discussion On Chipping and Putting

I think the simple answer is to just make better approach shots . No one would be worrying about chipping from anywhere on the green if they hit a better approach shot. Landing on a sloped green is just part of the game and so if everyone is allowed to chip on the green….everyone will just forget about putting in general in any type of competition. Ea, don’t forget that players use legal exploits like this to get ahead of everyone else . I’m not saying anyone here does that, but we all know the reality of gaming.   

"Ea, don’t forget that players use legal exploits like this to get ahead of everyone else" It's only an exploit if there using it to get around the rules. There are no rules saying you cant chip on the green. If you don't like it because is somebody is chipping on the green don't play them or better yet chip with them. See if it bug's them?

I found out you could chip on greens by reading this thread!! Lol 

I only play in Career mode and I am actually happy to know that some of the impossible putts I have faced that turned into three or four putt holes because of that can be avoided.  It actually came up in the first round I played after this revelation. 

I have no opinion on the Online Tournaments but please don’t take this out of Career mode or other solo play modes if possible. 

 @ couturemk so you’re telling me that you’re defending this because it makes it easier for you to play the game as unintended. Why even have a putter instead of just a magical chipping club?   I’m sure when racing became a thing, everyone would just run across the track and say they won by crossing the finish line 1st? I think you see my point here . No offense, but allowing everyone to chip and get higher tournaments scores than everyone else that actually uses a putter isn’t good for a video game .  After all this is a video game forum 

For anybody who considers this an exploit, you do realise it's actually condoned as a form of play during the challenges, right? 

Have a look at the caddie tip for the challenge: Spotlights / EA / Path of Least Resistance. 

It's got very few and far between uses, even for myself with my limited depth perception, but it is legitimate as a form of play.

It's something to pull out of the bag when facing a long distance across a long fast undulating green after the shot dispersion decides to have its fun... Why land a multiple bogey, when I can still save par? 

Also, interesting point to note, there is no rule in R&A, PGA / LPGA etc (which are what this game is modelled on after-all) that prevents the use of clubs other than a putter on the green. Local clubs can make their own code of conduct, but under PGA rules, there is no reason not to chip or pitch. 

@Noya_WesaI’m trying to edit my post while you’ve already responded and I’m sorry for that I should just be working now tbough . Anyway, my point wasn’t to insult you or anyone else I’m just saying that I’m not sure they intended for us to avoid the horrendous greens by chipping.  

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@Miss_Lindaa wrote:
@Noya_WesaI’m not critical of the shot being used in sp formats (most of this game) , but my point is valid for anyone that does the tournaments. Also I’m well aware of irl golf rules and etiquette but my point is that it’s a videogame . That said.. if it’s the only way to get a higher score in tournaments, everyone will do it. An example is many $/xp exploits in other online games where if it’s not totally forbidden… everyone will use the method . I think that because players will now use it to get around tough putting, is exactly why it should be limited to sp only or at least from the fringe only . Remember my point in this isn’t really a discussion about whether or not there’s a specific professional rule prohibiting it or not , it’s about ruining fairness to others if others “exploit” the rules to get an advantage. I don’t mind 2 or 3 putting if it’s the way the game was intended to be played .

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Firstly, might I say thank you for welcoming civilised discussion on it... 🙂 

I must confess that tournament play isn't something that I partake of, other than when the 4 hole arcade is on the daily freebie. I have no idea of the level of competition, so please understand that I am speaking mostly as an interested outside when it comes to that part of the game. I was looking at purely a technical and 'by the book' kind of stance, and I am genuinely interested in understanding why it would be viewed as exploitative. 

With the rules of golf allowing it, and with the game actually suggesting it as a form of play, I would have thought it would be welcomed. 

I guess there's aspects to the tournament play that I am missing, so I am more than welcome to being educated about the reasons.

It might be lessons that I could pass on to others, after the fact, you know? 

I think I spend too much time watching the 'wow' moments of golf, and not enough time considering how it might work out in online play... 

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@EA_Blueberry wrote:

It sounds like @-Roasted513- is more concerned about the online competitive modes when there are rewards at stake. If anyone here has great tips on how to set up a consistently great lag putt I'm sure we can all benefit from it.

Sometimes all you need are those 1 or 2 tips you never really think about that drastically improve your game. 

Anyone want to chip in with advice on putting?

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I’m generally really enjoying the game after about 130 hrs or so, now playing tour mode and doing ok w that. With regards to chipping on green, if rules allow it then ok w me. Finally enough practice at chipping off the green to find it useful…

But this is about the process I use for longer putts. On tour mode, no preview line so its reading the green and developing a “feel” for it. The close green level view was a bit hard to figure as you really can’t see much depth with it, but it is useful.

With this method i’m pretty much always within 1-2 feet on long putts, sometimes inches

The most important is the distance calc, which is 1.5 feet for every inch uphill height, and 1 foot for every inch downward at the hole - varies with green speed, especailly downhill so adjust as the round progresses. Also note - when height shifts from inches to feet and going uphill, 1 foot can be between 12 and 23 inches, then it changes to 2 feet, so you’ll have to estimate a bit

To read the green, you will need a feel for how much break there is on a 6-7 foot put with even speed of the beads. This does mean some practice or time on course. Learn the amount of break for the various bead speeds.

To make longer lag putt (or sink it), especially with varying break, use the close cam, and start at the hole and, at the hole, add some break based on the bead speed you’ve learned in the previous step. 

Move the camera back towards you and every 3-4 grids note the change in speed of the beads - same, no change, faster add a bit more break, slower take some back.  If the beads change direction start adding in opposite break. When the cam is at the golfer, reset the distance back to the amount calculated, address the ball and give it a look - if it feels off give it a tweak. After a while that will improve as you play more.

Make the stroke - as long as you’re consistent, a bit over or under is ok and you can adjust for it - straight is important.

On sim mode, do the same, but use the tilt and color of the lines as your guide. The putt elevation graph lower right is your only height gauge - close putts its about 3 feet, longer up to 5 feet. 

For putting I think the changes to the hole physics have been a bit challenging - not sure its perfect yet. But overall putting for me feels pretty “real” and similar to what I see the pros doing on TV - some days I’m hot other days not so much

Hope this helps -