Kind of a follow up to the other thread about "No one is playing this game".Though I only play this game now to see what the latest patch brings, though I do keep watch on this forum to get a pulse on any upcoming changes... it is not lost on me that even this forum has gotten quiet, and that many of the biggest and regular contributors no longer post.It appears many have given up hope. And I have to agree that we are just regurgitating the same issues over and over.This seems to be a strong indication of where the state of the game is... and yet EA seems to be doing little to move the needle.If they are indeed listening, they definitely are not hearing any of the communitys concerns or they just don't care.As someone here once said... what we see is what we are going to get. Expecting anything more is just us being a bit delusional.

@Katybee_1313 wrote:Maybe Frostbite is just not a good engine to make a golf game. It would explain the weird ball and cup physics, and the ball being moved constantly not where it supposed to be in and out of bunkers. And why EA is probably giving up, and devs moving to 2K.I think it is a poor artisan that blames his tools. I would love to see what someone could do with a golf game using the UNREAL 5 engine. Have you seen anything on the Unreal 5 engine?I myself believe that golf games would be about the easiest sports games to create. You are basically dealing with a static environment, the only real object that is moving is the ball and it can be easily calculated. Unlike other sports titles with multiple moving parts. Consider a title like football with 22 independent moving players and the football itself.I was personally disappointed with what EA used when Unreal 5 was available. Now that would have been nextgen graphics.

@ELF014 It’s so funny you mention the fact we are just regurgitating the same issues over and over as I was thinking the same thing 5 minutes ago! We meet here, talk about our issues and we just go round and round in circles thru a process where we talk about the issues, agree, wait and then repeat the process again. While we are doing this, I am 1 million percent positive EA sees our issues and nothing changes with the game except patches which solve none of the issues and pro passes which lack imagination, content and anything for us to feel like we are getting value for money.I haven’t quite given up hope yet because of its potential but I have to admit I have a limit to my patience. Some issues we have need addressing and not put off to the next game because there might not be another game from themPerhaps we are delusional and if we are delusional to expect a working golf game that accurately represents the sport of golf, I’d say that shows how far the standards have declined with EA

@ELF014 I can play these short chips and putts okay, but I can see where you’re coming from. It feels the speed is too high in some swings, even short ones and there’s lag in the animation with the short chips. I’ve had to ignore the actual animation to try and get the weight right and even then, it’s a nightmare getting the tempo right. I’ll spend more time in practice swings trying to get the tempo right with a 4 or 5 yard chip than I would playing the entirety of a par 5 hole. I shouldn’t need to ignore my golfer’s swing animation to get the weight right because obviously I’m not ignoring my swing on these shots on the real courseAnd it’s tempo that ruins partial shots for me. It’s fine when it’s close to 100%, but the further from 100% you go, the bigger the gap between the difficulty of getting tempo right on the real course and the difficulty of getting it right on the game. I’ll play a pitch shot with a lob wedge at about 70 yards carry, but I can also play 35 yard short pitch shots with the same club (a custom TaylorMade Hi-Toe 60 degree wedge). Doing the same on the game is much more difficult and I find the pitch shot to be especially hazardous if the tempo is off, unrealistically so. So those 35 yard shots, I end up having to flop it on with 100% power with attack angle/dynamic loft adjustments where on the real course, it’s a pretty straightforward short pitch shot with said lob wedge.

Maybe Frostbite is just not a good engine to make a golf game. It would explain the weird ball and cup physics, and the ball being moved constantly not where it supposed to be in and out of bunkers. And why EA is probably giving up, and devs moving to 2K.

@drewgriffiths wrote:@PalomaMarvel24 I am interested in hearing about NHL 24 since I’ve played every one since…. The first one I think…. EA Hockey way back in around 1991. Be a Pro is what I’ve exclusively played since NHL 09 and played NHL 23 and thought it was just too easy compared to 22 which I thought was about right in terms of difficulty. How’s NHL 24 in terms of difficulty? I did play on 22 and 23 with full difficulty settings ramped up so I can’t be a bad player when I played 23 and struggled to find ways to make it more difficult without flat out putting the sliders in the CPU’s favour 😆NHL 24 has a new controller settings called Total Control which is more difficult and challenging compared to NHL 22 and NHL 23. I had to fully put sliders in my favor and set options to easiest level to compete using Total Control. During launch, this was default settings and hybrid control was removed. After a large number of complaints, hybrid controls has been added back one month after launch. If you want a challenge and more difficulty, Total Control is available as an option.

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Katybee_1313
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
Maybe Frostbite is just not a good engine to make a golf game. It would explain the weird ball and cup physics, and the ball being moved constantly not where it supposed to be in and out of bunkers. And why EA is probably giving up, and devs moving to 2K.
PalomaMarvel24
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@drewgriffiths wrote:
@PalomaMarvel24 I am interested in hearing about NHL 24 since I’ve played every one since…. The first one I think…. EA Hockey way back in around 1991. Be a Pro is what I’ve exclusively played since NHL 09 and played NHL 23 and thought it was just too easy compared to 22 which I thought was about right in terms of difficulty. How’s NHL 24 in terms of difficulty? I did play on 22 and 23 with full difficulty settings ramped up so I can’t be a bad player when I played 23 and struggled to find ways to make it more difficult without flat out putting the sliders in the CPU’s favour 😆
NHL 24 has a new controller settings called Total Control which is more difficult and challenging compared to NHL 22 and NHL 23. I had to fully put sliders in my favor and set options to easiest level to compete using Total Control. During launch, this was default settings and hybrid control was removed. After a large number of complaints, hybrid controls has been added back one month after launch. If you want a challenge and more difficulty, Total Control is available as an option.
ELF014
2 years ago
@Katybee_1313 wrote:
Maybe Frostbite is just not a good engine to make a golf game. It would explain the weird ball and cup physics, and the ball being moved constantly not where it supposed to be in and out of bunkers. And why EA is probably giving up, and devs moving to 2K.
I think it is a poor artisan that blames his tools.
I would love to see what someone could do with a golf game using the UNREAL 5 engine. Have you seen anything on the Unreal 5 engine?
I myself believe that golf games would be about the easiest sports games to create. You are basically dealing with a static environment, the only real object that is moving is the ball and it can be easily calculated. Unlike other sports titles with multiple moving parts. Consider a title like football with 22 independent moving players and the football itself.
I was personally disappointed with what EA used when Unreal 5 was available. Now that would have been nextgen graphics.
agentputt
2 years ago
@drewgriffiths Totally agree about the lag

Happened since Day 1

I find however it happens on ALL shots not just chipping
PalomaMarvel24
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@ELF014 wrote:
I think it is a poor artisan that blames his tools.
I would love to see what someone could do with a golf game using the UNREAL 5 engine. Have you seen anything on the Unreal 5 engine?
I myself believe that golf games would be about the easiest sports games to create. You are basically dealing with a static environment, the only real object that is moving is the ball and it can be easily calculated. Unlike other sports titles with multiple moving parts. Consider a title like football with 22 independent moving players and the football itself.
I was personally disappointed with what EA used when Unreal 5 was available. Now that would have been nextgen graphics.
Currently, Unreal 5 is mainly used on 1st/3rd Person Shooter Games. The graphics and physics are absolutely amazing with this engine. Shooter games have way more moving parts than football and golf. A golf game using Unreal 5 would totally rock since the graphics would be superior and the physics would be accurate. With Unreal 5, Wolf Creek would no longer have ball physics that resembles Cardi B throwing the mic. Speaking of Unreal 5, I am looking forward for another 007 game.

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