(targeted at EA) so here I am trying to play career mode for the pro pass and the game is so broken that most of my shots are 10's of yards off target and the shot line is straight most of the time, a slight draw/fade makes my ball go sooo far off target, do you (EA) care to explain how this game is "optimized"? the "RNG" I can understand in the daily/weekly/seasonal tournaments, not in something I do by myself that doesn't affect anyone else, especially in the settings I play "choose" to play in

I'm sure EA won't change it, it's working just like they want. It's not Pay to Win but since I got the Cameron Champ driver spec last week, it made a huge difference. I can't hit it on a dime like Arcade players want it, but it's making the game more fun with the ball going close to where I aim.Maybe EA should take a page from 2K and have those maximum friction balls where putts are actually going in the hole, and not over the hole like the hole is not there, because in a good sim game, the ball don't go in the hole but over the hole like the hole is not there. One way to get rid of that stupid Update 3.

@SlimDown57 wrote:@Mark_Miwurdz wrote:Well, yes. But not how it works in this game.I wonder if they even bothered too have PGA Tour players try this Golf "simulator"?They were showing Rory playing EA Rory, it didn't make any difference. Both Rory and this game has power boost and mid-air spin, putting lines and some cool blue arc for ball trajectory. It's a game and far from a simulator for any PGA tour pro spending hours hitting balls on driving ranges, pitching, chipping and on putting greens.And I read many times Tiger was very involved in his EA TW games, they had the best arcade modes we've ever seen.

@Mark_Miwurdz wrote:What level is your golfer and what is your skill set up?Why should it matter? If you execute a good shot you should expect a good result.As you skill up, it should give good results on average shots, and great results on good ones.... and greats shots should just be that and not need to be affected by skills points.

Well, yes. But not how it works in this game.

@Mark_Miwurdz wrote:Well, yes. But not how it works in this game.Maybe we should encourage EA to consider changing this. I was going to say "FIX", but I'm assuming after almost 9 months this is working as they designed it to work.

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agentputt
2 years ago
@SpurS1964 This is such a stupid analogy

When hit a golf club IRL it goes where and how you hit it

Mother Nature doesn’t suddenly decide it should go somewhere different as you hit a shot

If I hit a club exactly the same IRL with exactly the same tempo and exactly same power (which is impossible cos guess what it’s a video game) it goes where I aim

By all means you want MORE RNG put it in simulation and you can have the game decide where it should land. Don’t add it to Arcade, Pro or Tour mode
SpurS1964
2 years ago
@agentputt I'm just stating when I played golf only as an amature and only off of an 11 handicap I've hit some teriffic shots and been punished by mother nature. I'vealso hit many bad shots that should get punished and have had a lucky bounce that's turned it into a teriffic shot.

I don't know how easy the software is to create these games, but to do different RNG per mode I expect would take a lot more work than a simple update
ELF014
2 years ago
@SpurS1964 wrote:
@ELF014The thing is in real golf you can hit a good shot, ie .... it comes off the club, looks superb in flight, and still get punished.
I agree in general with you. But my point is if you make a good shot it goes where you aim it (even IRL). What happens after it lands, I don't expect to be in my control.
Allan5858
2 years ago
IRL when i hit a good shot, it doesn't always go in the direction i thought it would go, usually because the angle of the ball strike is slightly off and maybe because I haven't found the sweet spot on my strike, or the wind changes the trajectory. Pro golfers would agree that when they strike a ball it will go very near to where they are aiming rather than exactly where they are aiming, and as you say they have no control of what happened when the ball lands, but usually they have a good idea of what happens when it lands, thats why they use a variety of shot types and techniques to get the ball to land and run to where they hope it will end up, they don't always get it right
Wishgamer34
2 years ago
Well, while my player is not maximized as of yet, I'm in that point you need about 100K XP points from one level to the next. And suddenly I've started to feel this effect. I miss slightly right (I'm 3-clicking) and the ball flie to the left as if it did find a candy store over there. I hit a perfect drive and the ball starts to the left because I don't know the reason here, but I suspect it did want to take a bath as it went really close to the water and OF COURSE off the fairway... I wasn't feeling this up to this point. Not sure if it is the patch or it is I've just upped my playing mode to Tour. Sure it annoys me
SpurS1964
2 years ago
@Wishgamer34 I found when playing on tour level the errors on he swing hurts more, and if you ever go sim, you need to have a perfect swing and still hope for the occasional lucky bounce
ELF014
2 years ago
@Allan5858 wrote:
IRL when i hit a good shot, it doesn't always go in the direction i thought it would go, usually because the angle of the ball strike is slightly off and maybe because I haven't found the sweet spot on my strike, or the wind changes the trajectory. Pro golfers would agree that when they strike a ball it will go very near to where they are aiming rather than exactly where they are aiming, and as you say they have no control of what happened when the ball lands, but usually they have a good idea of what happens when it lands, thats why they use a variety of shot types and techniques to get the ball to land and run to where they hope it will end up, they don't always get it right
Then I would argue you didn't hit a good shot IRL. If the angle of your strike is off or if you didn't hit the sweey spot, was it a good shot? As for the wind, I agree, it could play some role in the flight the of the ball. But this game has large amounts of RNG in calm conditions.
And I agree on 2K if I am plsying a course I am familiar with I know what to expect from the terrain. But this has nothing to do with EA and their RNG model.
PalomaMarvel24
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@Katybee_1313 wrote:
And I read many times Tiger was very involved in his EA TW games, they had the best arcade modes we've ever seen.
EA TW games had the best arcade modes ever. My golfer was deadshot accurate as Katniss even without any specs. The putting was also as accurate as Steph Curry’s shot. When I last played current EA PGA game, I had Cameron Champ’s Driver, Patrick Cantlay’s Wood, Lexi Thompson’s Hybrid, Tony Finau’s Irons and Wedge, and Dustin Johnson’s Ball specs. Yet my shots are as inaccurate as any quarterback of the New York Jets. I just miss the TW Games.
Allan5858
2 years ago
@ELF014 what is a good shot/ the result of where the ball ends up, or the execution of good swing tempo and ball striking? Most pro golfers hit good shots 95% of the time, they practice day in and day out, yet the ball does not end up exactly where they were aiming, if you call that a bad shot, then it seems to me EA have got it right
ELF014
2 years ago
@Allan5858 wrote:
@ELF014what is a good shot/ the result of where the ball ends up, or the execution of good swing tempo and ball striking? Most pro golfers hit good shots 95% of the time, they practice day in and day out, yet the ball does not end up exactly where they were aiming, if you call that a bad shot, then it seems to me EA have got it right
My definition... is your shot execution. You don't control anything else.
If I execute a good shot, I expect it to start going to where I aimed it... now what happens after it leaves the club face it is no longer in my hands.. but with no wind I expect it to land close to where I hit it. Where it bounces to... well that is something else.
The effect of lie angle etc... would have been factored in during my shot setup.

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