4-6 corns every game

I know there are a lot of corns but the judgement you gave other classes is very unfair.

My citron is master and he is great at his job of going in the graveyard/garden and staying there.

I never liked rose so I don't know what to say.

Chompers are amazing. Spikeweed can shutdown super brains and imps. his chomp will 1 hit can anything except a mech. Goop a mech and start chomping it and it will go down pretty fast.

I never really like sunflowers but they definately out heal a scientist with rainbow healbeams (which heal the fastest) and there heal flowers. They have that and solar flare which can just melt when positioned right.

Cactus! Cactus is way better than deadbeard. Camo Cactus can take everything out very fast in a few well placed shots. Future cactus can 1 hit imps and scientist and most things lightly damaged. Zen cactus has insane damage output too. The new petrified cactus is tricky to use but is very powerful with his 40 damage AoE shots. Ice cactus kinda sucks. Electric cactus is good at killing clusters. Fire cactus does decent damage and DoT. Bandit cactus is great at close range. Jade cactus is useful for groups too but he has more health. Regular Cactus has great damage and fire rate.

Deadbeard feels better because he is an aggressive character vs the cactus who is a defensive character.

Citron's hp, useful abilities, and accurate primary totally make up for his unimpressive damage. I would recommend using him in medium range in 1v1s if you are barely starting off. His primary followed by his abilities are designed to excel greatly in medium range fights.

When in close range, the Cactus still has a fighting chance to defend itself by leading its shots via hip fire (excluding Camo Cactus as its hip fire is unreliable). For a sniper, most Cacti have a hip fire that is likely overlooked as a viable tactic if you happen to be in a close ranged fight.

Though not as fast as the Future Cactus in taking down zombies with around 200 hp, the Ice Cactus can effectively shutdown (freeze) any zombie with five fast consecutive hits. In a 1v1, being frozen is almost guaranteed a death on the one diagnosed. With that implied, you only need five shots to 'kill' a 200 hp zombie, making Ice Cactus a great choice against zombies such as the occasional Electro Brainz and Cricket Star.

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@Sir_Wild_Wiley wrote:

I know there are a lot of corns but the judgement you gave other classes is very unfair.

My citron is master and he is great at his job of going in the graveyard/garden and staying there.

I never liked rose so I don't know what to say.

Chompers are amazing. Spikeweed can shutdown super brains and imps. his chomp will 1 hit can anything except a mech. Goop a mech and start chomping it and it will go down pretty fast.

I never really like sunflowers but they definately out heal a scientist with rainbow healbeams (which heal the fastest) and there heal flowers. They have that and solar flare which can just melt when positioned right.

Cactus! Cactus is way better than deadbeard. Camo Cactus can take everything out very fast in a few well placed shots. Future cactus can 1 hit imps and scientist and most things lightly damaged. Zen cactus has insane damage output too. The new petrified cactus is tricky to use but is very powerful with his 40 damage AoE shots. Ice cactus kinda sucks. Electric cactus is good at killing clusters. Fire cactus does decent damage and DoT. Bandit cactus is great at close range. Jade cactus is useful for groups too but he has more health. Regular Cactus has great damage and fire rate.

Deadbeard feels better because he is an aggressive character vs the cactus who is a defensive character.

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The rainbow heal beam heals at the same rate as the regular beam actually but i agree.

As a Zombies main I personally think Kernal Corn is the best Plant due to his flexibility and all damage dealing abilities and I guess I am not the only one who thinks so. He is by far the most difficult Plant to deal with effectively and I have been running into people who have realized this as well and are quite good with him.

I see lots of topics with people making false claims regarding specific classes due to their popularity.

Look at it this way. Corn is the Plants team's 'Footsoldier".

Now think about how many players use Footsoldiers in GW1.

Those two classes are the closest thing to 'traditional shooter-style' characters that the game offers. Naturally, they would be a common sight on the battleground. 

Pea class and Foot soldiers desperately need a boost. These are supposed to be, like the corn, first line of fire characters but the overall performance is rather mediocre.

They don't need to nerf any more characters, what they need to do is to boost the rest... the challenge is doing it without destroying the game in the process. Look what happened with Rose,  a single class caused chaos in both teams.

Let's not forget about the 2 daily tasks. I just had a game with Garden Ops with 4 sunflowers since we probably had all 4 assignments to play with them. Or a professor for Zombies. To get heals or give heals. 

I cant give you a feedback about cactus and chomper since i dont play them at all.

Anyway i tell you what i think about Rose and Citron:

"Rose is useless now aside from building teleporters. She didn't need a health nerf. She can't duel anyone anymore and gets blown up as soon as she leaves cover."

- The actual problem with Rose is not the health nerf (besides Fire one and Ice one that should move and jump while charging their attack and that type of nerfs discourage mechanically skilled player from playing her but nevermind.) I'm always saying on facebook, i send many emails, keep telling on many posts on the forum, she's not bad and perfectly fine the way she is. Her only problem is the fact actually is bugged ! Her homing works only specific ranges and it's totally randomly. I very like Rose and i would continue maining her. I'm not even player her badly, since she's not bad, she's just frustrating because is not working as intended, and if is it working as intended Patch Notes shoulded be more specific. Actually homing works only on Mid-high range in every situation. Low to medium sometimes is pretty much bugged and you have just to aim and shoot manually, which is very hard considered her bullet speed is quite low.

"Citron can't tank like he's supposed to. His damage is pretty subpar because his attack overheats too quickly. All for what? So he can move around a map faster? Please."
My favorite character was Rose but due to the fact now she's unplayble i moved to this. Citron, is Op if in rights hands, need to understand his kit before judging him, if you make him affordable and buff him as soon as possible community will cry OVER and OVER for a nerfs and exactly like the Rose he will fall into oblivion. Citron is perfect the way he is. You need just to play him a lot in order to understand his mechanics. He's hard. His not a lone wolves and generally speaking is not someone made for 1vs1 anyone.
Group together, peel your team-mates, take objectives with the ball, make pressure on the map with your mobility, make enemy team chase you and ambush them, use your CC to peel your team and meanwhile do AS MUCH as damage AS you can.
Yeah you can defenetively do damage. Look at PeaShooter.. his kit does ONLY damage.. ofc while being a little more safe, end? He has nothing but raw damage, Citron is Op in teamfights and is not the character that carry games, appears in the scoreboard with the highest kills.
Is the character like sunflower that will carry the game with his pressure/kit and nobody will ever know, because if something cant kill you straightly, than is not OP.
OP is what make you win and give more % chance to win, not what can go 20/0/10 and win alone. Actually im winning more when im playing plants and people stop spamming that useless piece of garbage called Corn and playing more variety characters and whenever i have at least two good Citron i realized chances to win are more.
But he's hard, and not fun to play. That's it. People are discouraged from playing it, because he's clunky, but he need to be clunky, you have just to know how his mechanics works, and after you know how much you can afford you can play him properly.
I know Corn is good. But his kit is made ONLY for carry and is pretty much "easy to learn" but "very hard to master", and only a good Corn can be more efficient than a character with Damage+Utility,  instead playing a citron and being useful for your team has much more impact on the game.

Actually is good for many reasons:
decent tank frontliner due to the shield

many CCs (empeach and the Roller Dash and if Frozen Citron the Freeze)

Map Pressure: yes exactly. THis character like everyone plants sucks at 1vs1. You have to imagine him as a team helper, ofc works great on vanquish and suburbination but its not that bad in others game modes. The fact you can be everywhere in everytime, think about it, its about "possibilities"
"if now i ddnt had my cool movespeed and i wasnt here, my teammate could be killed and we could have lost many win chances"
Instead you were here and helping.
He's enough tank to hold on Scientist burst and try to kill them. The empeach is generally good. He's decent at frontline and many plants cant. He's laser is hard to use but once you know how much you can use it and spam it before is going to Burn you can abuse it and not only has a very long range but also a good hitbox, perfect for those who are not very good at aiming and for taking down Imps.

I dont want a Citron buff. He doesnt need it ☹️

... not sure if u understand that obviously, since GW1... plants are zombies have a diferent rol to play them.
The point is to know how to play them.

Cactus, per example, just camping all time. Thats ok. They are snipers. BUT... if ur problem are scientist... man... look AROUND the F...... MAP!!!

I am SOOO tired about to see how 10 of 12 players are looking to the rigth and ANY looking left... so... im a * popcorn or a * scientist and im gonna kick ur * camper *. Why?? Cos u dont know how to play properly. Not with plants. Just to play.

In a shooter... u have to look after all map. Not only where all team is shooting to get some points like a rat...

I play allstarts and i make really a lot of massacres cos plants or zombies. Dosent matter, DONT look after the hold map. Just looking to make points. 

I am too tired as well watching my team around the garden and ANY of them entering to conquer. Maybe cos there are to many child playing this game.

U cant pretend to be the killer of ur team with rose... Rose is a support. Thats all.
The chomper is absolutely strategy to * the tanks. Just that. So, u are not gonna be the killer of ur team being a chomper. Seen a chomper hunting a imp is * hilarious.They are not their objectives.
Now u have 4 classes of 6 the choose. If there are teams of 12 players... maybe... just maybe... yes, there are like 5 popcorn... what do u want? 6 cactus? What is ur proportion to not complain?

Ouh! A last thing. The sunflowers, like scientists... DONT HEALTH. Why? I dont f.... know. But they dont do they work. So i dont understand. When i play sunflowers. Im always get both achievements. Always. Why? Cos i know how to play my rol. I dont pretend to be a killer with a sunflower. Cos ur rol is to HEALTH ur team. 

I could be explainning about the rol about all characters but i think is pretty easy when u are not 10 years. This is not COD when all characters are the same and just are different weapons. Here there are differents weapons and different characters... so... there are a lot of roles to be. Healer, killer, support, support/killer, healer/killer, sniper, sniper/healer, tank...

And anyway... dont be upset, when i make 60 kills and u make 20. U earns almost the same coins. Because is a team game. If i make more points just being a killer. Everyone would be a killer so u just would see peas and soldiers.

I added u. We can see works playing the rol u have to play depending character u choose.

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