Not really but you’re here now. Don’t get me wrong, I do love getting a ton of kills. My style runs more on objective base. However sometimes on bad days I enjoy racking them up. In GW1 and 2 I had many times with +100 kills without using the entirety OP. In this game I’ve managed it once. That being said I think that’s a big reason a lot of players left was the difficulty to rack up the vanquishes. ESPECIALLY at launch. A big portion of experienced players seek this. Not that I agree with it entirely, but it is a factor.

@dwooten77 Well my first two chars I forced myself to master on this * was sunflower and allstar...arguably the two worst chars at launch but I still really like the game. Your right though most kids need the top player every game for mommy to post on the fridge. To do that in this game usually means grouping up to pound the other team and leave when the teams become fair.So many great players in funderdome team vanquish tonight but a lot of basher 9001, team stacking and quitting after they lose...most of the great players hate a challenge they prefer to stomp or quit.When I play team vanquish lately I can't even try my hardest because everyone just quits and the lobby dies so I try to just heal, or meme kill, like cactus mines only...nobody wants to lose in this game it's incredible.

@TheSprinter85 Big time...if they would nerf healing it would be great but too little too late anyway. Try killing anything with a "good" sunflower attached...impossible.

Going back to GW2 more often these days, I see this massive difference too, even though it is better in BfN. It's been all TT for multiplayer matches in GW2 of course and I prefer to focus on the objective (or getting some of those quests done, waiting for someone to launch a drone to take it out for that particular quest can be highly annoying), but even then it just feels easier to get vanquishes without people sprinting away or entering an invulnerable mode (Rose and Electric Slide) upon taking a single point of damage. It is a big factor and honestly, one of the biggest problems with BfN is that just getting the game to work properly as far as moving and shooting! On a related note, healing is very different in GW1 and 2 as well. You get much smaller ticks (2s rather than 6s and 8s and such), and you get less ticks of XP but the XP ticks are larger. When you add in the far more powerful healing in BfN, that is a big part of why it's more difficult to get vanquishes.

@TheSprinter85 True, but @dwooten77 did add 'not really' to his post. I do recall several people complaining about vanquishes and we had that TTK patch largely due to that situation. Part of why I don't like TV and Vanquish Confirmed as much as the other modes is I vastly prefer objective based play, even if some people do only focus on vanquishes. Part of why I miss building teleporters is I liked supporting my team (I was usually a tank or healer in MMOs). Sometimes you could get some brutal fights around them, and if you didn't have help defending them, it could hard to keep them up and running, but that added another dimension to the battle as well.Edit: One thing I do really like in BfN is the objective master boast for TT. You really should be getting rewarded for pushing the main point of the game mode!

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Gormey
5 years ago
@dwooten77 Well my first two chars I forced myself to master on this * was sunflower and allstar...arguably the two worst chars at launch but I still really like the game. Your right though most kids need the top player every game for mommy to post on the fridge. To do that in this game usually means grouping up to pound the other team and leave when the teams become fair.

So many great players in funderdome team vanquish tonight but a lot of basher 9001, team stacking and quitting after they lose...most of the great players hate a challenge they prefer to stomp or quit.

When I play team vanquish lately I can't even try my hardest because everyone just quits and the lobby dies so I try to just heal, or meme kill, like cactus mines only...nobody wants to lose in this game it's incredible.
dwooten77
5 years ago
@Gormey Nailed it.
Iron_Guard8
Legend
5 years ago
Going back to GW2 more often these days, I see this massive difference too, even though it is better in BfN. It's been all TT for multiplayer matches in GW2 of course and I prefer to focus on the objective (or getting some of those quests done, waiting for someone to launch a drone to take it out for that particular quest can be highly annoying), but even then it just feels easier to get vanquishes without people sprinting away or entering an invulnerable mode (Rose and Electric Slide) upon taking a single point of damage.
It is a big factor and honestly, one of the biggest problems with BfN is that just getting the game to work properly as far as moving and shooting!
On a related note, healing is very different in GW1 and 2 as well. You get much smaller ticks (2s rather than 6s and 8s and such), and you get less ticks of XP but the XP ticks are larger. When you add in the far more powerful healing in BfN, that is a big part of why it's more difficult to get vanquishes.
TheSprinter85
Hero
5 years ago
Players who do not play the objective and only really care about getting as many vanquishes as possible are actually quite annoying, sometimes you lose games because they really too busy going off and spawn camping or something in overtime on Turf Takeover or something like that. I sometimes do lose because of it, because no one is aiming for the objective. I have seen players do this previously, but gratefully, not particularly often.
Iron_Guard8
Legend
5 years ago
@TheSprinter85 True, but @dwooten77 did add 'not really' to his post. I do recall several people complaining about vanquishes and we had that TTK patch largely due to that situation. Part of why I don't like TV and Vanquish Confirmed as much as the other modes is I vastly prefer objective based play, even if some people do only focus on vanquishes. Part of why I miss building teleporters is I liked supporting my team (I was usually a tank or healer in MMOs). Sometimes you could get some brutal fights around them, and if you didn't have help defending them, it could hard to keep them up and running, but that added another dimension to the battle as well.
Edit: One thing I do really like in BfN is the objective master boast for TT. You really should be getting rewarded for pushing the main point of the game mode!
TheSprinter85
Hero
5 years ago
I think what I did wrong is I took the post itself seriously.
I do actually remember that many players were complaining that the TTK was way too low back before last year’s December patch and that is why all primary weapons got buffed significantly. I find it much harder to get Top Vanquishes in this game, because most opponents just sprint or get behind cover when shot. And I am guessing that is one issue that many players had about this game.
Gormey
5 years ago
@TheSprinter85 Big time...if they would nerf healing it would be great but too little too late anyway. Try killing anything with a "good" sunflower attached...impossible.
TheSprinter85
Hero
5 years ago
@Gormey Healing needs nerfing, perhaps, the more you heal, the less healing you provide for a short while until you stop for a short cooldown. That or healing for too long summons a cheese shower to appear over you until vanquished.
WaterThornz
5 years ago
@dwooten77 uh- really? my friend gets 60-90 kills ALMOST every game (out of 10 games, he gets high kills in 7 of them) sooo.. is it people not knowing bfn? or just bfn being "broken"
Iron_Guard8
Legend
5 years ago
Healing is too good in BfN compared to the earlier games. It's useful in GW1 and 2, make no doubt, but it's insanely good in BfN, and yet it feels less rewarding, and the healing hose isn't as fun as the healing station or the science heal beam. So they somehow made healing too good in BfN yet it's nowhere as satisfying or enjoyable to actually do.