So this signature move is bad enough in that you can't escape it, but now I'm finding out that the supposed one character that can keep him in check--Chomper, is also handicapped by that move. Unless you have more than half your health when you try to chomp a twister brainz coming from underneath, you will most likely die before you complete the chomp because he's steadily hurting you. WTF?!? Why is he even able to hurt you at all once you have him in your jaws, no other character can.You're luckly to get 1 kill before you get killed if you're a chomper, and the one character he really needs to keep in check is the only character that can kill you mid chomp. How does that make sense????I know Super Brainz is supposed to be....well "super" but c'mon! He has 200 health, devastating long range attacks, a spin move that acts as a one hit kill, AND the ability to survive being chomped!!!Tell me who is the equivalent on the plants side, because I sure as heck don't see one.

@tristkiss wrote:It's not about replicating everyone's abilities on the opposing side, it's about checks and balances. Why isn't it fair for at least one character to be able to counter that twister?The EMPeach cancels it instantly. The Goatify cancels it instantly. The Time Snare cancels it instantly. Corn can use his jump ability to stay almost perfectly above the twister and mow him down.Spike Weed it a bit random as it may get destroyed. And the Chomper can trade a bit of health for the insta kill on the twister. It's not bad.

@Screion wrote: @tristkiss wrote: It's not about replicating everyone's abilities on the opposing side, it's about checks and balances. Why isn't it fair for at least one character to be able to counter that twister? The EMPeach cancels it instantly. The Goatify cancels it instantly. The Time Snare cancels it instantly. Corn can use his jump ability to stay almost perfectly above the twister and mow him down. Spike Weed it a bit random as it may get destroyed. And the Chomper can trade a bit of health for the insta kill on the twister. It's not bad. What this guy says. They are so many ways to counter or nullify it that no one can really complain about it. I am on the fence about him being able to hit you if he gets frozen or burrowed though. Its a tolerable bug for now, just like a solider being able to zpg you while its in your mouth.

Guys if you think S.Brainz kit is in any way balanced, well sorry for you, but get out from here, because you have zero knowledge in what is op.OP:Low counterplaysafe pickforgiving to playoverall strongoverload utilitya lots of movespeedboth easy to play, low risk, high reward and game changingbad kit designinsane burstUsually are those factors to make something op. When someone has half of them is considered borderline Op, and when most Op.he has all. KAPPA.Low counterplay when comes in your faceshe has dash and high jumps to get away200 hp, pretty forgivingnice damage overall and nice rangecrowd controls and innate tankyness while in turbo twistervery mobile with jumps, dash and base movespeed.easy to play, low risk, high reward and game changing? oh yes, seriously.bad kit, a tank that can catch you in a that turbo twister with a instant dash is a bad game designinsane burst: well this one.. at least mediumWell, seems in this game counterplay is not always an option because they wanted to have a balanced game where Pros couldnt have a too much excessive impact, which i agree, since is a casual game for casual gamers, but there's a limit. :VOfc you can win in a enemy team full s.Zombie, but still this thing increase your %chances a lot, too much imho.Op is not what is strong, Op is what make your chance to win more than picking an other class.And for his way to stop "turbo twister" well Rose is no more a thing and we'll probably dont see her shine anymore, have a single rose in a team is usually rare, well honestly i consider Rose trollpicking and way useless, but hypsters are always a thing, Empeach takes a lot to cast, and using PopCorn Jump could make you go in front of your enemies unless he doesnt come from behind 🙂

Chomper is fine, those things literally come out of nowhere and kill. They are especially good in large numbers supported by good corns and sunflowers. Though for some reason I think people just want super brainz to be an exact replica of chomper. They want pretty much each teams counter classes to be identical like for example the sunflower and scientist to be the exact same. Where's the originality in that?

@ChikoWiko wrote:Twister it pretty fine. If you get caught by it you shouldn't get a trump card to get out of it. What would the point be of trying to catch your target if they can get out of it? The only thing I would agree on is super brainz stopping the turbo twister once he gets gooped or about to be eaten by chomper.You can't actually even escape it with peashooter hyper.If you feel it a balanced move something that can easily kill 3-4 plants in few seconds... I would add to this that superbrainz got that jump, that speed and the kick which is a great gap closer and you actually can't really keep him far from you. And even if you keep it far, he's an excellent sniper (with 200 hp).

Another Issue I have With Twister Brainz

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Zaheen1337
10 years ago
@tristkiss
Please take a look at my balancing thread, I agree with your outrage.
You literally have to spam burrow like 5 times just to enter the Burrow phase, and by that point you're already half dead, even if by some miracle you managed to chomp him with the camera glitching, even after chomping him you still take damage until you've completed the kill. You have to do all this without being shot by anyone else.
Could try Spike Weed which you need to place in front of him if you can predict his movement, but that takes a bit of time to activate, and that's assuming you have one...
Against a class with so much, close range attacks, long range attacks, CC, super jumps, fireballs, super kicks etc, playing as the Chomper feels like a stupid thing to do because all that Super Brainz is going to do is jump, jump, jump until he finds somewhere high to stand on and then shoot you out. They didn't think it through really, and if they did then they wanted games to be stupidly one sided.
People are saying Chomper is fine, the game is balanced...whilst everyone playing Super Brainz are laughing their heads off.
tristkiss
10 years ago
Another thing that bugs me is gooping him doesn't stop the twister either. He is just too super for his own good!
Anonymous
10 years ago
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Chomper is fine, those things literally come out of nowhere and kill. They are especially good in large numbers supported by good corns and sunflowers. Though for some reason I think people just want super brainz to be an exact replica of chomper. They want pretty much each teams counter classes to be identical like for example the sunflower and scientist to be the exact same. Where's the originality in that?
tristkiss
10 years ago
It's not about replicating everyone's abilities on the opposing side, it's about checks and balances. Why isn't it fair for at least one character to be able to counter that twister? Chomper is the only one that even comes close, but even he is hampered by it. Yet, it's possible to stop the chompers signature move. Where is the balance for that twister?
Zaheen1337
10 years ago
@ChikoWiko Everything is good in large numbers, in theory. In reality nobody is playing him to attack.
@tristkiss
http://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/New-Ability-Plant-Mech/m-p/5243224#M7420
What do you think about this idea?
Anonymous
10 years ago
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Twister it pretty fine. If you get caught by it you shouldn't get a trump card to get out of it. What would the point be of trying to catch your target if they can get out of it? The only thing I would agree on is super brainz stopping the turbo twister once he gets gooped or about to be eaten by chomper.
Zaheen1337
10 years ago
Spikeweed stops it, straight up.
Pre patch goop slowed it down but didn't stop it, now it's even faster than before and goop is glitched to bits, goop barely does anything to it now.
Need to Burrow or Spikeweed, and Spikeweed isn't practical if he's directly on you.
Burrow isn't practical either but works, that leaves your pants down to everyone else...in the middle of everything with barely any health left!
Screion
10 years ago
@tristkiss wrote:
It's not about replicating everyone's abilities on the opposing side, it's about checks and balances. Why isn't it fair for at least one character to be able to counter that twister?
The EMPeach cancels it instantly. The Goatify cancels it instantly. The Time Snare cancels it instantly. Corn can use his jump ability to stay almost perfectly above the twister and mow him down.
Spike Weed it a bit random as it may get destroyed. And the Chomper can trade a bit of health for the insta kill on the twister.
It's not bad.
Zaheen1337
10 years ago
@Screion wrote:
@tristkiss wrote:
It's not about replicating everyone's abilities on the opposing side, it's about checks and balances. Why isn't it fair for at least one character to be able to counter that twister?
The EMPeach cancels it instantly. The Goatify cancels it instantly. The Time Snare cancels it instantly. Corn can use his jump ability to stay almost perfectly above the twister and mow him down.
Spike Weed it a bit random as it may get destroyed. And the Chomper can trade a bit of health for the insta kill on the twister.
It's not bad.
It is bad.
🙂
Anonymous
10 years ago
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@ChikoWiko wrote:
Twister it pretty fine. If you get caught by it you shouldn't get a trump card to get out of it. What would the point be of trying to catch your target if they can get out of it? The only thing I would agree on is super brainz stopping the turbo twister once he gets gooped or about to be eaten by chomper.
You can't actually even escape it with peashooter hyper.

If you feel it a balanced move something that can easily kill 3-4 plants in few seconds... I would add to this that superbrainz got that jump, that speed and the kick which is a great gap closer and you actually can't really keep him far from you. And even if you keep it far, he's an excellent sniper (with 200 hp).