Balancing that needs to be adjusted
I just cannot stand to see people lv 100-200 always using 1 or 2 characters that are maxed every game. Why do they chose these characters well lets list them
1. they are easy to use
2. there is s...
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Why would Chemist out of all zombies need to be nerfed....
Literally NO RANGE
Unless he is overpowered at long range to you as well...if that is the case...I can't really help you there....
@ShavedThronel0 wrote:
I just cannot stand to see people lv 100-200 always using 1 or 2 characters that are maxed every game. Why do they chose these characters well lets list them
1. they are easy to use
2. there is something overpowered about them
3. lots of other people are using it so I should use it too
So here are the overpowered characters that need nerfs and why
Plants
Citron and ice citron: take too much damage and have a very long beam
vampire flower: with the vampire upgrade she recovers 50% of health she takes and she takes 12-14
bbq corn: rate of fire is too high and very effective at all ranges
Zombies
marine biologist: the long range shot takes 25 and the close range takes 25 and literally blinds you with its explosion animation
chemist: takes no aiming to use and takes alot
all imps: hitbox improvement didn't do anything at all, they are still hard to hit. If they had 50 lives then they could keep their overpowered abilities and lil drake and pylon imp needs the most nerfs.
Meches have over 500 lives in reality because they have like 20% damage resistance and they take 10+ and shoot fast
pirates: captain sharkbite is sill overpowered and the abilities need big nerf. barrel needs more ways to be destroyed like empeach or goop, parrot needs damage reduced by 2 and 1 life because the hit box is broken , the cannon rodeo is now harder to hit like the cannon is like a wall
scuba solider: takes 50+ and has 2 bullets with very fast reload and they only nerf the tank commander...
park ranger: 7 damage a bullet and 2 damage and latest 3 seconds and can attack you behind cover alot.
All engineers: their bolt turret makes them hard to hit the turret is a wall
Character thats need to be buffed
All roses: give them 125 lives, nerf their damage, and increase their homing (beta)
chomp thing: needs more damage who cares about recovery when everyone uses close range weapons
six shooter: needs more damage and accuracy
As for the Imp, his regular state is fine, everyone complains about the Gravity Grenade which isn't even a full stun like the Engineer's sonic grenade while ignoring his useless other skill, Impkata. Use a single toxic or fire attack on him and he runs for his life.
His Mechs also have that huge hitbox and get crippled to death by a single pea gatling
Citrons are fine except for Frozen and Regular Citron's damage and ice citron freezes way too fast.
Vampire Flower is a joke if you actually 1v1, you won't believe the fun you can have with a team of them. 75 health with no speed or dodging capabilities.
Park Ranger...because 2 damage is SO bad? Come on, that is like saying stink bombs are overpowered because you are standing in them, don't stand in a toxic cloud. Using that logic, Toxic Citron should also be nerfed.
Marine Biologist, again, trades range for damage up close, and this one requires actual aiming.
What is with all the rage against Pirates? They should be the least of anyone's problems right now.
BBQ Corn is still overused...just like every fire variant in the game. They nerfed Fire Cactus multiple times in the first game just because so many people still used her despite all the previous nerfs.
If anything, Tank Commander should be buffed again instead, Scuba has to actually aim his shots and has only one reload upgrade. And for the record, being able to vanquish a sunflower with one magazine isn't a big accomplishment to be honest.
Engineer has a turret that makes him hard to hit, kind of like how Pea Gatling gives a damage resistance as well.
Why would the Law Pea out of anyone need to be buffed, he is fine and has two reload upgrades still. He still almost always wins a 1v1 like Agent Pea.
Only thing I care about is actually being able to fight a Frozen Citron without getting frozen every second, or actually trying to vanquish a citron without one of the twelve on the other team spamming EMPeaches.
As for Tennis Star, is it so hard for Popcap to actually balance him? Less health, more speed. Make his health 150-175 or something and let him get a speed boost on vanquish like Hot Rod and Breakfast. Is it so hard?
Since most of you disagree with me what characters do you use? let me guess, toxic pea, bbq corn, citron, tennis star, park ranger, pirate. I usaly get the top score every match but I am always stopped because a imp throws a gravity gernade and then I get stopped by other zombies or when I'm in low heath then a imp just uses impkata. I get stopped because a pea uses the Gatling and hides behind a wall. I get stopped by a parrot that dosen't take damage while i'm shooting it. I get stopped by being out numbered by 3 corns. I get stopped by a engineer using a bolt blaster or pirate using cannon rodeo because I can't hit them but they can hit me easily.
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" I usaly get the top score every match but I am always stopped"
Disgusted. Totally.
This sentence is fantastic and pratically reflect the typical bronze V elo attitude, disgusted that come from someone with an high ranking. Disgusted that come from someone who claim himself to be a pro. You should be an example from all new players and teach them that they can play the game in every circumstance and with every character, and instead almost every of your post is a QQ of the fact you can't get the most kills with every character you play. Seriously they should give you and zaheen a medal for the amount of degradation you keep taking in this board.
First. Top scoreboard means only you got the best amount of Xp, at the moment this only thing enough rewarded are taking kills, which means only give the last hit to someone 🙂
This doesn't necessarily means game balance, and everyone main sunflower know exactly when he carryed a match even without appearing in top . This is tricky to understand, but there are a lots of aspects to consider in game balance.. and this IS NOT SCOREBOARD. It's game impact and the ability for a character to influence a match."Since most of you disagree with me what characters do you use? let me guess, toxic pea, bbq corn, citron, tennis star, park ranger, pirate."
I was a Citron and Frozen Citron main last patch, but now i stopped play them as i feel completely disgusted from the state they had come. I also wrote a guide to explain this shi tty community they were already a powerful characters (THE POINT OF THAT GUIDE was to let people understand they were ALREADY slighly secretly overpowered). And instead the community reaction was just complain with redlove and zaheen calling everyone saying citron is good character zombie troll, and no-one (you too) moved a finger to say instead they were completely wrong. And THIS is the result we've come.
Sorry. Seems i did a huge mistake, I had to write that with red letters and straightly say "hei you. you're the common average corn user that ruin my game? There is a secretly op character called Citron that will be FOREVER free for nerfs because no-one know how to play him.. STOP using that useless shi t character called Corn, ruin my games, ruin your game, ruin your life and enjoy this free-win, easy game easy life character"
Anyway this is the full list of my favorite characters that i play even with mastered class- Frost Rose
- Stuffy, Metal, Vampire Flower
- Toxic Citron (just because stock and ice are at the moment broken)
- Corn, PopCorn
- Electro PeaShooter.
- Jade Cactus (rarely)
- Armor Chomper (rarely)
These are my favorite characters, so this pratically validate and confirm my thesis?
For confirm ask Quibassi12 (a sunflower main and plant-errorist lover like you and zaheen ) ^^By the way yes recently i used Tennis and Park Ranger.
If you feel i commited a crimes against human rights, go ahead and EXPLAIN ME a good counter to Electro PeaShooter 🙂 and one for Citrons.The truth is they were both almost counterless and they didn't deserve such a huge buff.
"The truth is... not matter that,there always gonna be someone who just play the same two char. No amount of balancing will fix that."
THIS ^
Thanks boolerex to keep taking some of brains cell in this board that simply those plant addicted seems to had lost in the amount of salt last patchInstalok - Nerf Listen this song, maybe you'll correct some of your attitude...
@xXFrozenChromeXx wrote:
" I usaly get the top score every match but I am always stopped"
Disgusted. Totally.
This sentence is fantastic and pratically reflect the typical bronze V elo attitude, disgusted that come from someone with an high ranking. Disgusted that come from someone who claim himself to be a pro. You should be an example from all new players and teach them that they can play the game in every circumstance and with every character, and instead almost every of your post is a QQ of the fact you can't get the most kills with every character you play. Seriously they should give you and zaheen a medal for the amount of degradation you keep taking in this board.
First. Top scoreboard means only you got the best amount of Xp, at the moment this only thing enough rewarded are taking kills, which means only give the last hit to someone 🙂
This doesn't necessarily means game balance, and everyone main sunflower know exactly when he carryed a match even without appearing in top . This is tricky to understand, but there are a lots of aspects to consider in game balance.. and this IS NOT SCOREBOARD. It's game impact and the ability for a character to influence a match."Since most of you disagree with me what characters do you use? let me guess, toxic pea, bbq corn, citron, tennis star, park ranger, pirate."
I was a Citron and Frozen Citron main last patch, but now i stopped play them as i feel completely disgusted from the state they had come. I also wrote a guide to explain this shi tty community they were already a powerful characters (THE POINT OF THAT GUIDE was to let people understand they were ALREADY slighly secretly overpowered). And instead the community reaction was just complain with redlove and zaheen calling everyone saying citron is good character zombie troll, and no-one (you too) moved a finger to say instead they were completely wrong. And THIS is the result we've come.
Sorry. Seems i did a huge mistake, I had to write that with red letters and straightly say "hei you. you're the common average corn user that ruin my game? There is a secretly op character called Citron that will be FOREVER free for nerfs because no-one know how to play him.. STOP using that useless shi t character called Corn, ruin my games, ruin your game, ruin your life and enjoy this free-win, easy game easy life character"
Anyway this is the full list of my favorite characters that i play even with mastered class- Frost Rose
- Stuffy, Metal, Vampire Flower
- Toxic Citron (just because stock and ice are at the moment broken)
- Corn, PopCorn
- Electro PeaShooter.
- Jade Cactus (rarely)
- Armor Chomper (rarely)
These are my favorite characters, so this pratically validate and confirm my thesis?
For confirm ask Quibassi12 (a sunflower main and plant-errorist lover like you and zaheen ) ^^By the way yes recently i used Tennis and Park Ranger.
If you feel i commited a crimes against human rights, go ahead and EXPLAIN ME a good counter to Electro PeaShooter 🙂 and one for Citrons.The truth is they were both almost counterless and they didn't deserve such a huge buff.
"The truth is... not matter that,there always gonna be someone who just play the same two char. No amount of balancing will fix that."
THIS ^
Thanks boolerex to keep taking some of brains cell in this board that simply those plant addicted seems to had lost in the amount of salt last patchInstalok - Nerf Listen this song, maybe you'll correct some of your attitude...
I was trying to make a point saying that abiities are a cheap way to win against anyone especially if they haven't been nerfed. so is the same with using overpowered characters. I have no shame in losing against someone who can aim but against people who only use abilities I just hate them.
" I usaly get the top score every match but I am always stopped"
This applies to most people playing the game currently I see this every game I play I know I was off for some people.
"Since most of you disagree with me what characters do you use? let me guess, toxic pea, bbq corn, citron, tennis star, park ranger, pirate."
And by top score I don't mean only like 200-300 points I usually get about 2000-4000 points ahead of everyone in turf take over or 1000-2000 more points in all other modes.
I will always pick on people who use imps, pirates, campers, and overpowered characters for the zombie side. I will pick on citrons, corns, campers, and peas for the plant side. Most people are taunting me telling me to pick on them.
@Danoludvico wrote:
Dude, you should ask pop cap to give you an invinsibility cheat code that only you can use. I bet that would solve all your problems.
:/Sorry I don't play on PC
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If I could nerf just a few things in this game it would be this.
1. Imp Punt - one shots all sunflowers but metal flower with HP buff
2. Gravity grenade/impkata combo, lil drake and cone mech.
that is all
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