Cold Snapdragon!
Add him to the game please? I'm sure his cousin will be all fired up to see him and he will be a VERY big help to the Plants, his attack strength and health stats? Simple same as regular snapdragon hi...
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I'm not saying this website isn't open to everyone's opinion. I'm just pointing out how flawed your idea is. First off, you must be new here if you think that EA gives their opinions on "ideas" like this. They only really acknowledge technical issues. And your comparisons to snowdrop and chili pepper have no point at all. There is a REASON legendary cards are far, far betters than common cards. It's because they are so rare. And why the hell do you LIKE direct upgrades?! They are terrible! Every plant in this game has a unique purpose, and the Cold Snapdragon would make regular snapdragon redundant. You claims make no sense, and your argument is absolutely terrible. And, once again, please use punctuation. That block of text is a pain in the * to even read, much less comprehend.
They have actually commented on 1of my ideas for the game in the past and I have seen them do the same for others opinions so yes I do agree with you that someone is new to this website and it's certainly not me and your OPINION about my idea being flawed is not what others might think of my idea you can call it flawed all you want but in my opinion your 1 "Winter Melon being more useful than all lower sun cost freezing plants is flawed because you can win games early with them you don't always need it like I said there are many ways to simply get rid of it right now you're just ignoring my comments about how it is so easy to get rid of a Winter Melon or you are REALLY NEW TO THE GAME! So where's your Strategy now that you're Winter Melon is destroyed? Could've had a whole army of lower sun cost Ice Plants to defend your Hero with because you can't just destroy an entire army of low cost plants with just 1trick there will still be some left call Winter Melon Legendary all you want but it can still be simply gotten rid of, the Combos I explained with Iceberg Lettuce and Snowdrop were just 1of the examples of how you don't need Winter Melon and that lower sun cost ice plants are still very effective seeing as how Snowdrop costs significantly less and has significantly less stats than Winter Melon and Iceberg Lettuce only costs a mere 1 sun with Zero stats to still be really good seeing as there was no Winter Melon Mentioned in the Combo I guess you have never heard of that combo would you like another? Chilly Pepper and Winter Squash? Again low Sun cost and lower stats than Winter Melon but still very effective or Ice Peashooter and Winter Squash, you're just not thinking about how all these low sun cost and stat plants can be used effectively and potentially win you the game, there are already direct upgrades to plants in the game ever heard of Metal Petal? You're stupid you shouldn't even be here since you can't handle other people's opinions and you end up making an idiot out of yourself now don't make me have to come back here with the NUMEROUS ways of getting rid of your precious Legendary Winter Melon
Your argument is flawed on many levels.
- I am rank 34, have all the heroes, and I have been playing since day 1 of the soft release. I think I know what I am talking about.
- Metal Petal is not a direct upgrade to anything, actually. Sure, she produces sun like a sunflower and has more attack and defense, but lacks team up and a cheap sun cost. The only thing that has direct upgrades are the basic 1/1 cards, but those are pretty much meant to be terrible. Your idea for Cold Snapdragon would give it the exact same stats, sun cost, and abilities, except Cold Snapdragon would be able to freeze zombies unlike a regular Snapdragon, therefore making it better in every single way. This is something we don't want in this game. Almost every single plant is unique, and has their own strategies and abilities. Making a super-rare Snapdragon obsolete would not be very good.
- Obviously, Winter Melon isn't that good on his own. I thought that was obvious. He has lackluster stats for a plant of such high cost, but freezing makes up for it. His strategies blow the others out of the water. While a Snow Pea, Chili Pepper, or an Iceberg Lettuce would freeze one zombie and give a Snowdrop 2 more attack and health, a Winter Melon could give it 6 more attack and health if it freezes three zombies at once. It could also instantly destroy three zombies at once with Winter Squash on the field. You make it seem like I am saying that one Winter Melon is better than a field of freezing plants. Of course it isn't! The Winter Melon would get destroyed very, very easily if it was on the field alone. What I am saying is that adding a Winter Melon makes a freezing strategy better, while not necessary. Wouldn't you rather have a Winter Melon on a field than a Chili Pepper?
- You said that many things can destroy a Winter Melon. You are right, a lot of things can. But what can kill a Winter Melon that can't kill a Snow Pea? Only a Rocket Science, that's what. But Snow Peas and Chili Peppers can be destroyed by Weed Sprays and rolling stones, while those can't kill Winter Melons. You see? It evens out. And if you are worried by its low health, just slap a Shellery, Carrotillery, or a Walnut (if you are Citron) in front of it.
I think I have made my points clear. Also, please just try to argue against my points, not me. No need to be a * for no reason. And please, for the love of God, use punctuation. Reading your huge blocks of text gives me a headache, and lowers the quality of your arguments.
- I still say the fact that Winter Melon costs a lot of sun while all the Ice Plants I mentioned are cheaper, spending that much sun on a Winter Melon is a huge risk while you could spend all that six sun on a ton of the Lower Sun cost Ice Plants and the fact that you could get the lower sun cost ice plants I mentioned out a lot earlier and Winter Melon a lot later and even if turn 6comes are you really going to risk all of your sun on 1Winter Melon that can easily be removed? Because once it's gone and you spent all your sun you can't do anything else and too bad it's not Afterlife so it aint coming back, and the fact that the Cold Snapdragon and his Sun Cost and stats I mentioned can easily be gotten out earlier and think of how easily you can protect him with 6sun, if your hero is part guardian or is Spudow or Wall Knight place a walnut or potato mine infront of it it only costs 1sun and you'll still have some left even for a Snowdrop to be upgraded by the amount it would've been been with Winter Melon because of the fact that it would function the same way as Winter Melon I didn't come up with that function on my own Cold Snapdragon has always functioned the same way and it has EVEN COSTED LESS SUN LIKE MY IDEA! WHAT IS IT THAT YOU HAVE AGAINST COLD SNAPDRAGON?! DONT YOU EVER PLAY PLANTS VS ZOMBIES 2? IT FUNCTIONS THE EXACT SAME WAY THEY COVER 3LANES THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS DISTANCE WINTER MELON HAS NO RANGE LIMIT AND COLD SNAPDRAGON IS LIMITED TO CLOSE RANGE BUT DISTANCE MEANS NOTHING IN HEROES!! So as I was saying about spending the 6sun you also still have 1sun left for anything as opposed to 6sun for just 1winter Melon then it's all gone and your turns up I think I make my point clear that it is not flawed it would be useful Winter Melon is more like a last ditch effort Plant oh and the Scenario you mentioned about all of the Plants I mentioned being destroyed by that many tricks in just 1turn is a BIG IF because your opponent would have to have saved up a lot of brains and have a lot of tricks to wipe out that many plants in just 1turn STOP HATING ON COLD SNAPDRAGON AND LOW SUN COST PLANTS
I am not hating on low cost plants. The problem with them, however, is that they can die pretty easily. If they all die, you have nothing on the field and no cards in your deck. I have a good reason for hating on your Cold Snapdragon though. What don't you get about it? Do you really want Cold Snapdragon to make both Winter Melon and Snapdragon completely useless?! In PvZ2 (which I have played much, much more than you. I am sure of it) the stupidest thing they added was direct upgrades. It was a terrible idea for a plant to be directly better than another one. It was Cold Snapdragon (made regular Snapdragon useless), Wasabi Whip (made Bonk Choy useless) , and Grapeshot (made Cherry Bomb useless) that were the direct upgrades. All of these costed money just so EA could line their pockets with extra cash, by giving out overpowered plants like those. I really, really don't want the same thing to happen in this game. Making both a super-rare Snapdragon and a legendary Winter Melon completely useless is a huge step in the wrong direction. We want new plants! New abilities! Not something that is straight up better than other plants, with no disadvantages. Also, you said that using a Winter Melon is "too much of a risk because you don't want to risk all you sun". Well, can't that be applied to any plant? Soul Patch, Great Zucchini, Three-Headed Chomper, Kernel Corn, Dandelion King, Bananasaurus Rex, and many other expensive cards can also be destroyed as easily as Winter Melon. Does that make them all useless? No! It is just a risk of playing expensive plants. Trust me, if you get to be as good as me, you will NEED to start playing expensive cards riskily in ranked battles. Also, you could place a Walnut in front Winter Melon, so your argument is, once again, very flawed. Seriously, how old are you? All of my points are valid, yet you don't respond to almost any of them. How about you stop typing in caps, too.
- I'm more mature than you I don't intrude on your posts and start hating on your ideas and no your OPINION will not stop me from posting my ideas you're the only person I've ever seen on here hate my ideas and believe me I know a ton of people love having new plants even if they're direct upgrades and they and I and you are entitled to our own opinions respect that and by the way you really don't like upgrading plants to make originals useless? Fact Shadow Flower is a direct upgrade to Sunflower in PvZ Garden Warfare because it has a faster fire rate and more ammo than normal Sunflower does Sunflower is useless but I never heard anyone hating her for it I love her and normal Sunflower that people still use all I'm saying is people use every single Plant no matter how useless they are even the Peashooter and not the direct upgrade Fire Peashooter or Ice or Repeater because they love them, I will respect that you in particular hate them but I'm having a hard time believing that because that and new plants upgraded or not are what keeps PvZ growing and expanding and people loving it even more and better so i am going to continue posting my ideas and argue with you no more, good day
@Gmanpizza612 "I am rank 34, have all the heroes, and I have been playing since day 1 of the soft release. I think I know what I am talking about."
I'm rank 50 at 307 stars and have all the cards.
Bragging aside I agree with you that his card would feel redundant and that the Melon is filling that purpose.
Also TC, your Cold Snapdragon + Winter Squash would be OP as hell, so no way they'd ever make it.
- Well how do you say that when people are complaining that both plants and zombies are op so it wouldn't matter? More so there's even a longer discussion of how Op Zombies are and if anything Cold Snapdragon is not OP since it functions the same way as Winter Melon and costs lower sun than it it could not even make the slightest difference for the Plants? People are saying there is no balance to the game so even more unbalance won't make any difference
Lol, people who say that are brand new players who QQ because they lost a few games in a row. This game is extremely well balanced at the moment. Minor tweaks could be fine, but overall it's much more balanced than other TCGs.
"if anything Cold Snapdragon is not OP since it functions the same way as Winter Melon and costs lower sun than it it could not even make the slightest difference for the Plants?"
Bro, this sentence makes no grammatical sense. Like, what the hell does this mean?
If water melon is already a very strong card in frozen decks, then having a similar card that costs less would make it even better, close to OP, right? I mean, that's basis mathematical logic 101. If you can't grasp that concept, then no one can help you.
- Not really I said it's stats would be the same as Regular Snapdragons stats? You know what the Snapdragons Stats are? 3Strength and only 1Health you call that OP? You must not have the slightest clue how to deal with 1Health Zombies no matter what their Strength is, Put a 1Strength and 1Health Zombie infront of it and boom it's dead NOT OP
Omfg, It's not your version of cold snapdrafgon that OP, its the combo with Winter Squach that would be OP!
- I'd say Winter Melon is more OP because of higher Strength and Health it would be more deadlier than Cold Snapdragon only dealing 3Splash Damage as opposed to Winter Melon would pretty much kill everything and if it doesn't Winter Squash would kill them anyway, Fact, another fact it doesn't matter what amount of damage you deal with Winter Squash Combo it would still kill them so Winter Melon or Cold Snapdragon wouldn't make any difference to the outcome with a Winter Squash Combo so why do you care anyway? You wanna wait till way later in the game, possibly lose the game and risk getting out a high sun cost Winter Melon that could easily be destroyed? Atleast with Cold Snapdragon you can get it out early and an entire armada of them depending on what hero you're using, Rose would definitely help out with getting more of them out quickly since she uses Sunflowers
I'm really feeling like you're just an expert troll. But on the off chance you're not...
First of all, sunflower is a terrible card 9 times out of 10.
My whole point is that getting a cold snapdragon on turn 3 and then play a winter squash on turn four is way too powerful of a combo to play that early in the game. Winter melon is OK because it's a LEGENDARY, so you probably wont see someone play 4 in their decks. Also, the melon/winter squash combo becomes MUCH LESS threatening on turn 7 then it would be on turn 4 with the snapdragon.
This is my last post on this topic. I'm quite good at this game (let my record speak for itself) and I'm trying to help you realize why your card would be not only redundant but bad for the game.
If you still want to believe you're right then go ahead, your card will never exist anyway and you wont get far on ladder.
Cheers
- Well listen I hate to break it to you oh wait no I don't but this whole insulting argument of yours is just your opinion and not everyone will agree with you some people like newer more powerful Plants why do you think they started making plants that are combinations of already existing plants? And I've seen people say they like them or they love them, and yes some hate them I just so happen to be 1of those who don't mind more powerful plants
