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Anonymous
8 years ago
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Cosmics Question

When these plants/zombies conjure a card, many times it is a trick and so in lies my question.
The other day I got walnut bowling from cosmic nut, and I wasn't able to hold off winning and the game ended before I could play it
Since it states that it was conjured and all that, do they come as 3/6 wall nuts then?
  • jj48car's avatar
    jj48car
    8 years ago

    I don't think so, because the Wall-Nuts weren't conjured by the Cosmic Nut; Wall-Nut Bowling was.  Wall-Nut Bowling would get the 3 strength, but it can't because it's a trick.  It then makes Wall-Nuts that don't get the strength bonus because Wall-Nut Bowling made them, not the Cosmic Nut.

    Just like my Cosmic Scientist conjured a Portal Technician and gave him Bullseye, but when he died and made a random zombie, that zombie didn't have Bullseye anymore.

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  • jj48car's avatar
    jj48car
    8 years ago

    I don't think so, because the Wall-Nuts weren't conjured by the Cosmic Nut; Wall-Nut Bowling was.  Wall-Nut Bowling would get the 3 strength, but it can't because it's a trick.  It then makes Wall-Nuts that don't get the strength bonus because Wall-Nut Bowling made them, not the Cosmic Nut.

    Just like my Cosmic Scientist conjured a Portal Technician and gave him Bullseye, but when he died and made a random zombie, that zombie didn't have Bullseye anymore.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago
    I understand what you are saying but that is a bad example for comparison. The portal technician got the bullseye. The way I see it(and I mean in my brain however messed up that is) if cakesplosion can be deadly, then why shouldn't the wall nuts get the +3?
    But then by my way of thinking, that would mean the mushrooms created by a grotto that was conjured by cosmic shroom would be +2, so I can see you are right, just the example isn't the same situation.
    Thanks though, and on another note....that cosmic nut when conjuring a smackedamia will actually be nerfed. How lame is that eh?
  • jaydabbler's avatar
    jaydabbler
    8 years ago

     @patdk75 the example provided by @jj48car was completely accurate and a very good one.

    It is the first card that gains the buff, the second card (made/conjured by the first card) will not have the buff. For this reason....

    Portal Technician (buffed) -> conjures non-buffed minion

    Shroom for Two (with the first mushroom buffed) -> conjures non-buffed teammate in front of it

    So in the case of Cosmic Cards conjuring tricks...

    Cosmic Imp-> Cakesplosion ... Cakesplosion doesn't produce another card afterwards

    Cosmic Nut-> Wall Nut Bowling  ...Bowling actually conjures three new nuts and does damage in 3 lanes

    Cosmic Scientist -> Hail-a-Copter (Trick) -> Hail-A-Copter Conjures a Copter Commando Imp (If Cosmic Scientist conjured the Commando directly, then it will have bullseye but it won't be playable as a trick)

  • jaydabbler's avatar
    jaydabbler
    8 years ago

    maybe that last example will help it make the most sense to you

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago
    It made sense to me when he explained it.
    You are using two separate cards that can be as one. If scientist conjured the imp token of course it would have bullseye.
    If he conjured hail-a-copter.... I think it's called that... and then the trick technically will have bullseye and you are saying that when the trick is played that the imp once in play won't have bullseye?
    How is that any different than if he conjures zombot wrath and hits plant hero directly, and that 3 or 6 points damage should be bullseye
  • jaydabbler's avatar
    jaydabbler
    8 years ago

    ok, let me try again

    Conjuring makes another card.

    so....

    Card 1 is Cosmic Scientist. (it conjures a science card (Hail-A-Copter) and adds bullseye)

    Card 2 is Hail-A-Copter (trick, cannot gain bullseye (or has no effect even if it can gain this Trait)

    Card 3 is Copter Commando (a zombie conjured by the Hail-A-Copter trick, which does not add bullseye)

    Card 1 is Cosmic Nut (it conjures Wall Nut Bowling and adds +3 attack)

    Card 2 is Wall Nut Bowling (Trick, cannot gain attack (or has no effect even if it can gain this Trait)

    Card 2 DOES 6 damage in each ground lane

    Card 3,4&5 is a "6-health" Wall Nut (plants conjured by Wall Nut Bowling, which does not add any attack and - if anything - explicitly states that it sets the health to 6, with no mention of any attack)

    For Zombot Wrath, I'm fairly certain that Bullseye IS added, the same way that Cakesplosion gains Deadly from Cosmic Imp. I have a faint recollection of doing this to an opponent, but it's rare to get Wrath so it's probably only happened to me once before?

    Card 1 is Cosmic Imp/Cosmic Scientist

    Card 2 is Cakesplosion/Zombot Wrath

    Card 2 does damage as described with the Trait added.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago
    I know that it does because I have seen it ingame.
    Same as final mission but then its sometimes hard to tell for me.
    Cosmic Scientist conjures final mission but also have a Disconaut in play.
    So if the zombie sacrifice will be...a 4/4 unlife of the party would it have bullseye for the Scientist? If the zombie was 3/3 so Disconaut gives bullseye but final mission is four damage....
  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    8 years ago
    That's what got me feeling cornfoosed when I was just starting playing the Cosmics.
    Cosmic imp can conjure one of those imp/zombie/gargantuar tricks and I get that all those cards will not have deadly, but technically the trick itself does, right?
  • jaydabbler's avatar
    jaydabbler
    8 years ago

    well if you knew it did why did you write "it should have bullseye" ?

    --Final Mission does the 4 damage, it DGAF about what card was sacrificed. (Disconaut makes no difference if in play or not.)

    if final mission was conjured by Cosmic Scientist then I believe it will do bullseye dmg

    if not conjured, then you sacrifice a card in play and do more than 3 damage via a trick, both of those things mean that bullseye via Disconaut is not applied

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