Damage Drop Off

I still think we should get damage drop off because it's been bringing other problems.

I was playing All-Star and he just couldn't hit his shots. The developers had balanced him without damage drop off but made him too inaccurate for someone who should be able to attack afar with his primary. Citron has the same accuracy but that's fine since he has a portable shield; I see All-Star as a still defender where he doesn't move from his spot often and his abilities are for close-encounters.

Another time, I was playing Space Cadet. Her primary's accuracy varied depending if you're aiming. Even though she has homing it didn't help the fact that her damage output was pathetic and unless you had a certain upgrade its fire rate was equally sad. BTW homing didn't work from a distance, so attacking mid-range was pointless even though her primary should be able to be used from that distance.

Once more, I played Sunflower and if you didn't know, she can deal 8-10 damage while Foot Soldier does 6-7 (already at a great start). She can also heal herself which makes her really powerful and survivable for 100 hit points. She wouldn't be considered OP if it weren't for her insane accuracy and lack of damage drop off. Even if she's inaccurate, what about Sunbeam and its incredible range (which used to have drop off and removed it for some reason).

Finally, I played Peashooter and he was just insane. Homing Pea's range was increased so you can aimbot players from longer distances without realizing that there's a bug that makes it sometimes deal 54 damage. Not sure if it's actually doing that amount of damage, but nevertheless, it's insane for a splash damage primary to be this powerful. Being strong at long range isn't his specialty, but because no damage drop off he can be a threat from far away anyways.

We need damage drop off.

Gormey
5 years ago
@Fork_x_SpoonAgree with all of this but we need to focus on top 3 or 4 changes they can realistically make that will make the game playable when they orphan it in Sept. If damage drop off hasn't happened yet then it won't happen now.

Nerf sunflower healing...citron shield, blaster volume of ammo or warps, and brainium movement...everything else I can live with.
If there's time left, nerf the AI a bit specifically 80s rocket ride and citron laser.

19 Replies

shurikeninja
5 years ago
@Fork_x_Spoon Peashooter is broken and Sunflower is OP. All-Star should be able to shoot at long-ranges effectively and Space Cadet needs to be buffed. Most of this stuff can still happen without drop-off.
AngryFreak2
5 years ago
@Fork_x_Spoon i can agree that all full-auto characters like sunflower and all-star need damage fall-off not only to make them balanced and put them at there specifyed range but to also increase there time to kill (TTK) in there designed range like imp who is weak in his type of range because there's no damage fall-off to balance him otherwise making him a sniper and that's what we dont want.
i think it's about time we get a TTK change 2 (the first one way back in november 26 and again in full on december 1st)
and to solve the homing pea damage bug its just the direct hit damage from the second one combining into the first one i dont know where the 14 splash went but who knows
and also pea and engi had no damage fall-off since GW1 of whom peashooter did less damage then what he does in BFN (it's 25 damage vs 34 both direct hit)
agqwpe663oe6
5 years ago
@Fork_x_Spoon A meta around movement requires damage drop off to be balanced. Sunflower, a healer, being more accurate and deal more damage then a literal offense character also makes zero sense.
Pheesley
5 years ago
@Fork_x_SpoonI hope they will add damage dropoff. Otherwise, I dont think the next balance changes will matter very much. Peashooter feels almost like a light sniper with how fast his projectile is. Personally, I don't like homing. It's boring.
Chomper can also benefit from damage dropoff. They could just lower his slobber shot damage but it won't stop him from sniping.
I think it would also make nightcap easier to balance. Instead of damage Drop-off, nightcap was given a random bullet spread which feels awful in my opinion. I feel like her shots are a little too "hit or miss" to give her bullet spread. Its kind of like if engi or peashooter had a tendency to shoot in random directions.
Gormey
5 years ago
@Fork_x_SpoonAgree with all of this but we need to focus on top 3 or 4 changes they can realistically make that will make the game playable when they orphan it in Sept. If damage drop off hasn't happened yet then it won't happen now.

Nerf sunflower healing...citron shield, blaster volume of ammo or warps, and brainium movement...everything else I can live with.
If there's time left, nerf the AI a bit specifically 80s rocket ride and citron laser.
stukapooka
Legend
5 years ago
@Gormey You're right there's too much for the devs to attempt to balance for a last patch and they had so long to do it before hand so why would they do it now?

I remember when all star could go on the offensive and suppress the enemy at range sad he became diet heavy with a Winston shield. His rotors dont even spin anymore.
Fork_x_Spoon
5 years ago
@Gormey I like how you go on the offensive! Yes, there are other things to be changed but damage drop off is a balance change and it shouldn't be too hard to implement. If they did nerf healing, shields, and Steam Blaster I may be fine without it but until they include this vital mechanic I want a near perfect balance (especially with the lack of variants).
TheSprinter85
Hero
5 years ago
Very much agree with this damage drop-off, since the game first came out later last year, I have wanted this feature, and even though it is very unlikely to be added in at all at this point, I find it would be very beneficial if the game gained this feature.
I like to play close-range or mid-range with many characters, and do not tend to attack from long ranges unless I am a Sniper. It gives me more incentive to attack up close for maximum possible damage if damage drop-off was added. I would really like to see this, it was in GW2, why not here?
If damage drop-off got added at any point, I would like the current damage to be increased at closer ranges, but reduced at longer ranges.
Gormey
5 years ago
@Fork_x_Spoon I post like I play baby! ha, ha.
benn1nat0r
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@Gormey You might just be able to steal the to XP author crowns from @TheSprinter85 and me.
But don't get your hopes up, Dr. Edgar Zomboss!
As a loyal Acorn, I will stay here patrolling the forums so you won't get those delicious brains!
My Super Sap Trap is just waiting for you! (Sadly, it doesn't deal damage 3/4 of the time and it looks like it won't be fixed)
Have a nice day @Gormey 🙂. Just when I thought @ToastedSarnie was right about you being at a point were you'd even be using smileys soon, you showed just how serious you are about getting that top xp crown with your posts everyone likes 😉!