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GraveledStoopid
6 years ago

Fix the game and please stop adding to the problems

Coming from a 40 year old gamer who has been gaming consistently since the 80’s, I’ve never played a more frustrating game in my life. At first I thought my children were just being typical whining k...
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Pheesley
6 years ago

I would forgive this game so much more if the gameplay was better, and I still keep coming back to this game.

The gameplay is so imbalanced right now, and while I haven't experienced the same problems with reloading, Wizard, or other basic stuff, I too have a lot to say about just the gameplay in general. (I dont think Wizard causes as many problems as many other characters)

Whenever i get frustrated at this game, i also tend to realize just how dumb and rage inducing the gameplay can be.

Games devolve into sniper battles because there is still no Fall-off damage. (Without Fall-off damage Healers and arguably even shields will never be balanced) E slides and Rose's run away for free with their Invincibility tools. Wizard invincibility is also too on-demand. E slide and Rose can regain Health with upgrades while being Invinicble. Z-mech and Barrel are cheesy and terrible. Everyone has the same walking speed, even low HP classes like Rose and Healers. Overhealth is permanent. Acorn still has hardened. Space station is still too strong. Blue Blazes is annoying. Scientist still warps instantly. The game punishes you for taking damage while sprinting or jumping. Brawlers are still bad and other classes do their job better. You can b hop while sprinting like its Minecraft. This game is no where near competitive, so even 4v4 Battle Arena can get ruined. 8v8 in Team Vanquish/ Vanquish confirmed is dreadful. Those gamemodes have no real objective and are not made for 8v8 so I always try to avoid those in daily modes.

I really hate a lot of the movement mechanics and the fact there is still no Fall-off damage. A lot of these issues have been here since the early months of Founders and weren't fixed. Other things like Arcane Enigma, Warp, and the shooting in general were already fixed and worked better in the GW games.

I really want this game to be a step forward from the GW games, and it can be if Popcap fixes these problems faster. I dont agree that they should put off content like Wizard for balancing as that could also have negative effects on the game and community. 

At this point I'm just waiting for a March Update that'll throw in a bunch of balance changes, add Fall-off damage, and get rid of the terrible movement; and I really hope Popcap delivers as that would be a huge boost in morale. All I want to do is enjoy the gameplay with a lot less cheesy garbage. I'm also excited for Berry Brigade.

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GraveledStoopid
6 years ago
@Pheesley Movement in this game and is where I believe a lot of the issues start. All the characters have crazy animations, some taking longer than others. The animations in this game (visuals to make the game more pleasing but don’t add to the gameplay) supersede everything else. I don’t care how pretty some thing I do is, if it doesn’t work when I need it to. I loathe the running in this game, even more so because the landscape isn’t complete and there are so many random areas that a character gets stuck on or glitches out. Primary firing should always take precedent over movement, a character shouldn’t stop firing because you moved. Your character shouldn’t be able to move in a why to stop its firing while using its primary. (What I am trying to say is, Citron is a close range character and half the time I try to close the gap, something goes haywire and I end up running instead of firing, or the animation starts like I’m going to run and the entire screen moves and adjusts because of it but my character never actually goes into a sprint.) the camera movement because of the run option in this game is horrendous. Ever find yourself in a Battle next to an object only to have your camera angles not work because there is a wall behind you? Yea. It doesn’t make sense but it most definitely happens..

Maybe devs should quarantine BFN and not release it until it shows no signs of being a sick game. Right now it appears to be on life support.
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    Pheesley
    6 years ago
    @GraveledStoopid I always thought shooting canceling sprinting was a thing I had to get used to. It was always this way in other shooting games with sprinting.
    But yeah, it feels like I accidentally create this scenario for me where the movement freaks out because I'm switching between sprinting and firing. Can't say that I've gotten stuck on random terrain though.
    And the camera always felt a little off to me. I dont think field of vision should change at all when sprinting, it makes transitioning to sprinting feel slow and awkward. I also think a lot of the start up sprinting animations are too long, like Sunflower's or Deadbeard's, which also makes the sprinting look and feel awkward. Compare that to like Foot soldier or Scientist; their transition is so much quicker and smoother. Sometimes the animation glitches out and your'e sprinting with a reload animation or a charge shot animation (it happens quite a bit when I play wizard).
    Sometimes, playing characters like Snapdragon or Nightcap take up a third of the camera space, and i can't see who I'm shooting at because my own character is blocking my view! But this does seem to happen most when I have an object behind me.

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