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Hi, I'm new here, and I came here basically to say one thing. I dislike what the patch and updates have done to multiplayer. Zombies have an overwhelmingly oppressive group consistently in turf wars. ...
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How is peashooter the second best class? I'm yet to see a peashooter win a single boast, since release!
Maybe if you increase his health to 200 and give him normal jumps as high as Superhero, and give him unlimited Gatling, that's balance.
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
How is peashooter the second best class? I'm yet to see a peashooter win a single boast, since release!
Maybe if you increase his health to 200 and give him normal jumps as high as Superhero, and give him unlimited Gatling, that's balance.
Well, peashooter is one of the best classes i think. I have not played him in PVZ2 but in PVZ1 he was my favourite, but it might be challenging for him to fight an imp. Gattling gun takes down mechs fast provided the mech isnt shooting him of course :P
But of course i too think zombies need a little tad of a nerf. Tops on the list is Super Brainz
Pea/Chomper was my favourite in the first one also, but you only have 4 to choose from and I did well with all. Plants side, that is.
How can you comment on my agenda or comment about win loss ratio meaning nothing? If my team wins or loses or doesn't solely reflect on me does it? What you fail to understand, because you seem to have no logical sense is this, I could be the best player in the world and my team would and could still lose every game if they are bad, or if there is major class balance.
Thats why I said it didn't matter, but what strikes me more is your inability to read English, me saying the same thing for it not to register in your brain only suggests one thing. Idiocy.
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For example, they give Scientist a heal beam to compare healing with Sunflower, but did they give the Sunflower teleport and a Shotgun?
Engineer already had enough firepower but they remove the drone and give it to the pirate to match that class with the cactus, and give the pirate cannon similar to what? The engineer?!
Tell me something the plants got extra, they gave Chomper a 100 damage piece of trash that kills nothing except an Imp/Scientist with one shot and neither of them camp really. You'd have to be crazy to replace goop with that...
Their balance was giving plants new characters too, and now one is absolutely garbage. That leaves Citron and Corn...and who is complaining they are overpowered? They're getting buffs and they're still only mediocre.
Pointless talking to you further because every new post you make is more trash talk with no evidence to back it up, and arguing with a stupid person reflects badly on me, goodbye.
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You guys get reported for being off topic and in my opinion BOTH OF you are zombies fans and even friends and just randomly adding on purpose garbage on this topic.
So can you please verbal abuse yourself in PRIVATE messages? Thank you.
Besides that, i totally agree.
And yes plants are balancedIF YOU PLAY WITH FRIENDS AND COORDINATE each other.. and MAYBE still have a chance.
Playing plants, and overall cactus, chomper and in top of that rose and sunflower which are VERY team dependant is an UNHEALTHY and UNWORTHY experience, maybe even toxic one.
You get facerolled before you realized what is killing you.
And in top of that zombies are more fun to play and is usual to have zombies superior in numbers because people do SWITCH team whenever they can, happening to have
10 zombies vs 8 plants.... COSTANTLY.Sunflower does more DPS, what the heck man do you think this is World of Warcraft?!
Scientist can go into any location and tear * up, a Sunflower can not. That's exactly what I did yesterday all day, highest kills, highest vanquish streak with most healing, sometimes highest assists but to be honest I got the kills, and even revives but because our team creamed their team so bloody bad I didn't win revives, they did.
You go play Sunflower, and I'll play Scientist and I bet I could kill you 100 times without dying.
I would feel sorry for you after 5 kills and laugh my head off. Guess what, it's all recorded as well. I'm not making things up and I'm certainly not a plants fanboy. You're just deluded.
Here's some more math.
Sunflower:
50 rounds, 8 dmg per body shot, at 400 dmg for the Sunflower's entire clip
Sunflower can fire straight for 10 seconds, that comes to 40 DPS.
Scientist:
5 rounds, 40 dmg per body shot, at 200 dmg for the clip
Scientist can unload his 5 round clip in 5 seconds, that comes up to 40 DPS.
Now, a Scientist does do better in head shots, Sunflower gets 9 dmg per hit on the head, Scientist is hitting as high as 70.
Now, say a fight lasts 10 minutes (good, clean number), and say, in a make believe world, both are continuously firing and hitting a target for that duration. Lets look at numbers for that....
Both hit 40 DPS when you take into account how fast they fire over time, but that's not taking into account reloading.
During a 10 minute time period the Scientist has to reload 86 times, at 2 seconds per reload, that's 172 seconds reloading. That leaves 428 seconds dealing dmg, which at 40 DPS, that comes out to 17,120 dmg over a 10 minute time period for body shots.
During a 10 minute time period the Sunflower has to reload 60 times, which at 2 seconds for reloading, is 120 seconds reloading. That leaves 480 seconds of dealing dmg, which at 40 DPS, that comes out to 19,200 dmg over a 10 minute time period for body shots.
The main difference here, is burst vs sustained. If you put a Sunflower and a Scientist against a dummy that is standing in front of them, that has 200 hps, they would kill that dummy at the exact same time. But, because the Scientist does it in larger chunks of dmg, people assume, incorrectly, that he deals a lot more dmg.
And please, stop with the "Put you and me against one another and I'll kill you 100 times!" statements. 1. Even if that were true, that neither proves, or disproves balance, and 2. It's just more of your asinine belittling of others and own ego stroking that adds absolutely nothing of substance to the conversation.
You want to make a point about balance? Use NUMBERS, use MATH. Leave opinion at the door, and back up any and all claims with MATH. Otherwise, you're just another person using conjecture.
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