Since the death of Battle for Neighborville it has been on the quite side with PvZ (with the exception of PvZ 3 of course) and a lot of members behind the Garden Warfare/Battle for Neighborville games have also since left the team, so this got me pretty worried about the future of the shooter gamers.Like, will we still get another Garden Warfare or will the franchise be doomed with mobile games?

To add to that, gritty realistic games have their fans no doubt, even I do play a little R6 Siege on the side for example, but cartoony art styles age better, are generally more appealing to younger audiences, and are almost always more family friendly. It's not too hard to get parents to let their kids play the PvZ shooters, but imagine being 10 and asking to play F.E.A.R.? Last night I had to jump into the multiplayer portal in GW2 to finish up some quests (Shoot down a cactus drone and get 3 triple vanquish streaks), and the TT lobby was full. This is on PC, the least populated platform, on a game that has a sequel, and is 5 years old, and only 3 of us were max rank. If this doesn't scream; 'make a new PvZ shooter, EA/PopCap!' I don't know what does. Call it Garden Warfare 4, or Garden Warfare Re-imagined, or what ever works. Make sure it's not dealing with so many bugs that plague the games that are live even now, give us a lot to do from day one and add to that with DLC, bring back the old maps and add new ones, give us crossplay with all platforms (and obviously make sure hackers are not a thing), bring back modes people loved like Soil Survivors and Community Challenges, make Ops fun and exciting, balance it as best as possible (we can't expect perfect balance in a game with so many characters, but you can tune it in better than we have in any of the current shooters), support it and promote it well, communicate openly and regularly, and you'll have a winner.I'd love to see old friends like @asabaida, @dwooten77 , and so many others come back and join in (and with crossplay, play games with), with a new shooter that celebrates the previous amazing games and yet still innovates to keep things fresh and exciting as well.

@Vinniebread The series is probably not going anywhere anytime soon, but might get the Skate treatment, in which they'll resurrect it in a decade when all of us have moved on from then. I don't want that to happen, but I can only predict from what the past has taught us. EA isn't known for having mercy on IP's that don't get them the dough; if it doesn't sell, say goodbye! But again, with PopCap still being a major component in EA's business & their impact on the mobile market, I'd say they're letting the franchise rest for a bit until they can make better games.Will we get another Garden Warfare? Maybe, but won't come for awhile. Will the franchise be doomed with mobile games? Most likely not as monetization on them still works on the average consumer. But with PvZ 2 pushing ads in your face everytime you tap on the screen isn't making things better.

Part of why I keep posting on the forums here and for GW2 is to 'show the flag' as it were and to keep people talking about the games. Obviously, with the shut down of new stuff for BfN and the age of the GW games, the forums aren't exactly hopping but it's good to see people posting and discussing the games.It looks bad right now, no doubt of that, but PoPCap is still a thing, we can play all 3 shooter still to this day, and the community is still around, even if they seem to be focused on the Reddit. If we keep talking about it, it keeps the games at the front of the mind, and I'm ready to give a new PvZ shooter a shot. Hopefully it launches with more fanfare and in solid shape, and not too far in the future!

@Iron_Guard8 Yeah, Reddit has given up on attempting to resurrect BfN & discussion in general & has resorted to coping with memes. The community may be in shambles, but at least they're good memes. And it's alright, I'm expecting more discussion here once a sequel comes out.Don't let the flame die out!

The fact that we can still play the original Garden Warfare, despite it now being 7 years old and having 2 sequels (BfN may not exactly be GW3, but it certainly is meant to be a sequel of some form), and get matches even on PC which has the lowest population (mostly TT of course), is actually amazing. It also proves to EA that there is an audience for the games, which translates into purchases if done right. I haven't seen all the sales figures but this part of the PvZ franchise has definitely done well. Some YouTubers like Wolfy and Zero have built their YouTube channels almost solely on the GW games, and ZachScott certainly has done well in this regard. There's a long video discussing the games and their future that features a lot of prominent YouTubers:I watched this awhile ago and I think it outlines the situation very well. This series of game has touched kids, families, young adults, and old farts like me. I still login to at least GW2 and BfN everyday, even if only for a little bit (although last night was in GW2 for a long time as I had to finish the 'Complete 15 games of Gnome Bomb' epic quest and that takes awhile, even with no bots), but let's be honest, we need a new game with more content, new stuff to do and unlock, and lacks the issues that we see in the current games, much as I love them, they aren't perfect.Considering how many people love PvZ, it makes more sense from the perspective of EA to make a new game, maybe a bit later than we'd like, but someday in the near future, to make a new shooter. I just hope it is sooner rather than later, has crossplay, is well supported, and brings back what we love while also adding some new stuff to do and enjoy as well.

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Fork_x_Spoon
5 years ago
@Vinniebread The series is probably not going anywhere anytime soon, but might get the Skate treatment, in which they'll resurrect it in a decade when all of us have moved on from then. I don't want that to happen, but I can only predict from what the past has taught us. EA isn't known for having mercy on IP's that don't get them the dough; if it doesn't sell, say goodbye! But again, with PopCap still being a major component in EA's business & their impact on the mobile market, I'd say they're letting the franchise rest for a bit until they can make better games.

Will we get another Garden Warfare? Maybe, but won't come for awhile. Will the franchise be doomed with mobile games? Most likely not as monetization on them still works on the average consumer. But with PvZ 2 pushing ads in your face everytime you tap on the screen isn't making things better.
TheSprinter85
Hero
5 years ago
@Fork_x_Spoon Hopefully, players will not lose interest with this franchise if it slows to a halt for a while. Hopefully we see more games in the franchise, and sooner rather than later.
stukapooka
Legend
5 years ago
@TheSprinter85Its a conflicting subject as a true gw3 with proper advertising would earn money and could earn back the fan goodwill dumped off a cliff. I want to see the franchise continue with a new game soon but at the same moment any new game announced would be worrisome with the the time gap they announce, work, and realease it if bfn is an example of how they now work and that not many people have gotten new consoles yet.

I want to know what honestly happened with popcaps game design after 2016 with the release of games like overwatch and fortnite as EA is the company that created apex legends to get a slice of that battle royal pie and bfn tries to ditch garden warfare mechanics while also trying to soak up as many fans from the past games to boost player numbers (popcaps own handling of the game was just poor as well even before the pandemic).

Outside of the pvz subreddit such as the Xbox one sub or pvz wiki forums on bfn's cancellation and it was obvious from reading that many people there were garden warfare fans not happy with bfn or not knowing of the games existence. Even now after 5 years gw2 still has more players and fan support in mods.

I think it's safe to say the franchise is entering the dark age and we may recover if popcap gets their act together with pvz 3 onwards or sadly we may stagnate for years before we get games and practically turn into star fox.
Iron_Guard8
Legend
5 years ago
Part of why I keep posting on the forums here and for GW2 is to 'show the flag' as it were and to keep people talking about the games. Obviously, with the shut down of new stuff for BfN and the age of the GW games, the forums aren't exactly hopping but it's good to see people posting and discussing the games.
It looks bad right now, no doubt of that, but PoPCap is still a thing, we can play all 3 shooter still to this day, and the community is still around, even if they seem to be focused on the Reddit. If we keep talking about it, it keeps the games at the front of the mind, and I'm ready to give a new PvZ shooter a shot. Hopefully it launches with more fanfare and in solid shape, and not too far in the future!
Vinniebread
5 years ago
@stukapookaI'm not sure, but I feel like it'd work with the right marketing, since it's nostalgic for a lot of people. And you can always add new things to the game, I guess.
stukapooka
Legend
5 years ago
@Vinniebread Yet in that same vein you could just add all that content to gw2 and advertise it again for that game as basically a 2in1.
Vinniebread
5 years ago
@stukapooka Yeah agreed, I didn't like the newer things added to it at all. And yeah, same.

Ah, I didn't see it then.

Yeah agreed, haha. It was way too basic and different in my opinion. I've never played the China PvZ games, but I saw footage from it and they looked pretty good. And yeah, Danerade's video was really good. A bit off topic, but pretty crazy to think that he made that video with a * mobile video editor.
Vinniebread
5 years ago
@stukapooka Yeah, that'd be cool.
Vinniebread
5 years ago
@Fork_x_Spoon I mean, it at least is better than nothing I guess.
Vinniebread
5 years ago
@TheSprinter85 I mean, some people will lose interest in the franchise, but it'd also be very nostalgic for some by then. And it'd probably also get new fans as well.

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