@newbebop I agree there have always been characters that have had OTT damage capabilities. I can think of plenty of characters in both the previous games that I hated coming up against if they were used by experienced players - the primaries & splash damage of toxic pea and welder in the original game for example; primaries of Captain Cannon, sanitation worker, the Brainz toxic overload, charge shots from fire rose, future cactus & plasma pea etc, etc in GW2. I could make a REALLY long list!! 🤣