Think about it. Despite being a pretty good Character he can’t be in the Frontlines well because he dies too quick for having a Big hitbox. In GW2 Popcap buffed his Health to 150 to make him more of a Frontline Fighter but then in BFN they decided to reduce his HP? I think Kernel Corn should get his 150 HP back

I think Kernel Corn is perfectly fine how he is right now, Foot Soldier should get a nerf instead. Let me explain:In this game, Corn and Soldier are the same type of character for both teams, not like in GW2, there, Corn was meant to be a slow tanky, team player, crowd control and high damage character, while Soldier is meant to be more versatile, minor damage, alone, harass, pickoff character. In BfN, Soldier and Corn are the same type of the Soldier from GW2. We all know why Soldier is the same of GW2's Soldier, but let me explain Kernel: Shuck Shot and Husk Hop have way less damage and accuracy than their GW2 counterparts, but have minor cooldown and more splash, to be able not to kill the target, but harass then (principally Husk Hop), and Husk Hop is way more reliable to escape fights, and repositon. Butter Beacon makes Corn more versatille by giving him vision, he can see people and predict then more easily. His ground movement after the last patch gave Corn a good way to take out people in X1 fights, by making Corn, again, more versatille.Corn is one of the most balanced characters in this game, his skill cap is very high, he is not good without a team to help him (game's principle), almost all of his upgrades are balanced and not useless or way too strong (except cornucupia and Shogun-Guard, they are garbage lol). They should nerf soldier's upgrades to make him balanced, Rapid Fire, Ranger and Sitcky are WAY too strong right now, surpassing Corn in his current role.

I'd rather see Kernel Corn get a slight damage buff to their main weapon than more health. I enjoy him a lot, one of my favorites, and don't feel he's awful but a slight buff to his main weapon damage would be welcome.

@TJMotor Instead a health buff he needs a damage buff

@TJMotor rn I think overall he needs to be issued. The devs are riding on the idea of 'oh, you have to use the butter beacon to do more dmg'. The problem with this is that it forces you to rely on one ability to do decent primary dmg, and this is the problem with 80s, where the ability is reliant is order for the class to be good. I feel, if they buff his dmg, it won't make him op. He is still very bad long-range and I just think his dps is too slow. Buffing his health isn't the solution, it's primarly his damage ouput is too slow for an auto class like him.

@Razorninja56 For the rapid fire upgrade, the revive idea may not work because he is an assault. The super spin upgrade for corn give him increased ROF after a vanquish. For rapid fire, they could simply just rework the max fire rate idea. Instead of the ROF increasing as his ammo is depleted, make the ROF start as soon as soldier has lost half of his clip, so for the 20-25 bullets you have left you get an increased ROF. This means that every shot counts, making it more challenging for the player, unlike rn where nothing has to be achieved for the ROF buff. Simply, soldier players play the character because he is easy. The rapid fire can't be nerfed, it has to be reworked.

Kernel Corn should get a Health Buff

17 Replies

malfinman
6 years ago
@TJMotor I agree. I miss gw2 corn. It was tank style character good for crowd control, here not so much - if you get close you are dead. Kernel is good but its dif. playstyle from gw2 more like mid-range. I would like to see the health buff as well it might work well and I would love to play him in the frontlines like in gw2. And I dont think health buff would make corn overpowered.
GutmanSca
6 years ago
I think Kernel Corn is perfectly fine how he is right now, Foot Soldier should get a nerf instead. Let me explain:
In this game, Corn and Soldier are the same type of character for both teams, not like in GW2, there, Corn was meant to be a slow tanky, team player, crowd control and high damage character, while Soldier is meant to be more versatile, minor damage, alone, harass, pickoff character. In BfN, Soldier and Corn are the same type of the Soldier from GW2.
We all know why Soldier is the same of GW2's Soldier, but let me explain Kernel: Shuck Shot and Husk Hop have way less damage and accuracy than their GW2 counterparts, but have minor cooldown and more splash, to be able not to kill the target, but harass then (principally Husk Hop), and Husk Hop is way more reliable to escape fights, and repositon. Butter Beacon makes Corn more versatille by giving him vision, he can see people and predict then more easily. His ground movement after the last patch gave Corn a good way to take out people in X1 fights, by making Corn, again, more versatille.
Corn is one of the most balanced characters in this game, his skill cap is very high, he is not good without a team to help him (game's principle), almost all of his upgrades are balanced and not useless or way too strong (except cornucupia and Shogun-Guard, they are garbage lol). They should nerf soldier's upgrades to make him balanced, Rapid Fire, Ranger and Sitcky are WAY too strong right now, surpassing Corn in his current role.
Lybry_Book
6 years ago
This.
I recently leveled my corn to gm5 and upon playing him
I found it really weird how people where arguing about him being
one of the worst chars.
malfinman
6 years ago
@GutmanSca I have Corn at GM5 for some time and yeah I agree he is quite balanced, but in comparison to some other characters like soldier he is underpowered, not weak. So for me it sounded like a good idea to slightly buff his hp but yeah, it would be better to balance some other characters especially the soldier as you mentioned. They nerfed rapid fire in the last update, but clearly not enough and some of his other upgrades need attention too.
Having perfectly balanced characters while others are overpowered just doesn't work very well and if corn vs soldier should be the same type, rebalancing is needed.
And while I enjoy playing corn in BFN I can't ignore the fact that there are many people complaining being him weak. So if there won't be any more nerfs to soldier I say yeah buff corns HP so ppl can enjoy him. And I agree that kernel has a high skill cap, while soldier has not.
Own_Master_Mad_
6 years ago
@TJMotor Kernel need a buff as foot soldier recks him
Razorninja56
6 years ago
@GutmanSca I couldnt agree more. Kernel is in such a balanced spot right now I don't think he needs anything atm. I also agree on nerfing foot soldiers upgrades and here are some of my proposed changes

Rapid Fire: Reworked into Helping hand, Foot soldier gains increased rate of fire for 5s after reviving an ally. (In its current state, there's no way rapid fire can ever be balanced without outright gutting it. This rework aims to not only make foot soldier work for his RoF boost, but also have more synergy with his other upgrades)

Sticky: No longer sticks to plants but can now stick to ally zombies. (This upgrade is the epitome of anti-fun. Once stuck, the victim is subject to a slow and agonizing death with minimal counterplay. By changing ability to stick to ally zombies, it makes the upgrade less frustrating for the plants while opening new strategies for the zombies)
Multiwarfare
6 years ago
@TJMotor
Instead a health buff he needs a damage buff
Shadowphinx101
6 years ago
@TJMotor rn I think overall he needs to be issued. The devs are riding on the idea of 'oh, you have to use the butter beacon to do more dmg'. The problem with this is that it forces you to rely on one ability to do decent primary dmg, and this is the problem with 80s, where the ability is reliant is order for the class to be good. I feel, if they buff his dmg, it won't make him op. He is still very bad long-range and I just think his dps is too slow. Buffing his health isn't the solution, it's primarly his damage ouput is too slow for an auto class like him.
Shadowphinx101
6 years ago
@Razorninja56 For the rapid fire upgrade, the revive idea may not work because he is an assault. The super spin upgrade for corn give him increased ROF after a vanquish. For rapid fire, they could simply just rework the max fire rate idea. Instead of the ROF increasing as his ammo is depleted, make the ROF start as soon as soldier has lost half of his clip, so for the 20-25 bullets you have left you get an increased ROF. This means that every shot counts, making it more challenging for the player, unlike rn where nothing has to be achieved for the ROF buff. Simply, soldier players play the character because he is easy. The rapid fire can't be nerfed, it has to be reworked.
34975634954957
6 years ago
Corn is one of my most played characters. Mainly because he is very fun to play, but I agree he needs a minor buff in either health or damage. His abilities are great as they are.
I do well with Corn after after loads of hours of play but at the same time I can pick up Soldier and dominate even though I had way less time with him. My conclusion is that soldier must be stronger or just easier to pick up and play. My early experiences with Corn we not so successful.
So in summary, Corn can dominate but he takes loads of practice. A small buff wouldn't be a bad thing.