The Devs have continued to nerf every single “good” way to earn xp (experience) all the while leaving some characters way too overpowered, causing the game to be not very fun, and for those who do like it, it won’t last long. Players will go back to garden warfare 2 leaving pvz bfn an “underused disaster destined to flop” please fix exp

@GraveledStoopid wrote:@YayHorseysIt’s because all auto fire characters primary weapon damage isn’t accounted for, nor is it applied properly. This is what they want to wait until December to fix... 😐I’m hoping the guys/gals return to work on Monday and see the community’s reaction after playing post-patch a few days. Complaints are coming from the most respectful/loyal members of this community...people who never complain.The window of time to correct these issues is closing quicker than some might think. 🙁

@chogath_player We all have different opinions & atm a lot of us are disheartened. It's fine to disagree, we all just need to try to be careful how things are worded so offence isn't caused, don't worry 👍Players who repeated bounties to get xp didn't abuse the system, because it is/was a legitimate way of earning xp. Nor is it an indication of skill. With the way PvP is, in terms of rewards, buggy character & system performance, team-swapping, empty lobbies etc, etc, repeating things in PvE would've made sense & there are lots of people in PvZ who have preferred the PvE & private/solo play options we have in GW2 but are sadly no longer an option.I completed the prize map just in time & without repeated bounties (unless it was the best way of doing a daily challenge) but I have more time than a lot of people & I HADN'T finished all of the PvE regions so did some of those & mainly stuck to Ops which gives better xp than TT. Nor have I mastered all my characters, so I'm still gaining levelling xp.My personal view is that the PvE rewards should be lower after the 1st completion, but dropping by 90% is ridiculous - maybe drop things TO 90%. Reduce the xp needed per bulb, give us more challenges to complete, put unearned customisations back into Reward-a-Tron at the end of each Festival, would be my suggestion.GW2 challenges had variety & a good choice, you could do a few or all in a short space of time as suited you. Community challenges brought everyone together to achieve, but if you missed out, it wasn't the end of the world because you knew you could earn the same things another time. We usually did complete though, because at the end of the day, the key difference is that GW2 was (is) FUN . . .Sorry, sorry, AGAIN for length! 🤦♀️😆

@chogath_player wrote:@WarDestroyer007I bet you exploited the bounties. The rewards for playing 7 seconds of a bounty far outweighed the rewards for doing well in a 20-30 minute game of turf. Are you really surprised at all by it being nerfed? Bounties were never meant to be the top source of money and xp anyways. Now you have to actually play the game (and be good) at the game. I know, awful shame for those not interested in playing like everyone else ☹️Passive aggressive much? It’s okay, if others enjoy gaming a different style than you. Young, handicapped, family oriented, full time workers, etc... many of us can’t play enough now to enjoy the game but that doesn’t mean we’re bad?For you to insinuate you’re better than others or that we need to “be good” is super condescending and slightly uneducated when you don’t game with most of us or know our skill levels.I would love to play with or against you to learn how to be better? Which platform are you on?EDIT: I exploited the bounties. 😎👍

No - I couldn’t disagree more.GW2 had community events and daily challenges that could be completed in a timely manner so that completionists had a chance to earn rewards without playing 6+hours per day. Inherently, the community as a whole benefited by people being online more and servers staying FULL. Now, many of us are forced to play modes or characters we don’t want to in order to have achieve the rewards BfN has to offer. This results in many people not playing PvP modes as often and is counter-intuitive to community building.I made a large reply in the other active thread discussing this topic further... but in short, I politely/passionately disagree with ya.EDIT: you said you had to be good at the game... that insinuates anyone not completing the map isn’t good? I digress... truly.😊👍

@YayHorseys It’s because all auto fire characters primary weapon damage isn’t accounted for, nor is it applied properly. This is what they want to wait until December to fix... 😐

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chogath_player
7 years ago
@WarDestroyer007I bet you exploited the bounties. The rewards for playing 7 seconds of a bounty far outweighed the rewards for doing well in a 20-30 minute game of turf. Are you really surprised at all by it being nerfed? Bounties were never meant to be the top source of money and xp anyways. Now you have to actually play the game (and be good) at the game. I know, awful shame for those not interested in playing like everyone else ☹️
* I apologise if I offended anyone with this post, I didn't mean to. I never intended to put others down while putting myself on a pedestal, I was just giving my opinion on the whole issue with people writing off the game (because of the removal of a broken exploit that was never actually meant to be THE PRIMARY source of coins and xp).
spIash_damage
7 years ago
@chogath_player wrote:
@WarDestroyer007I bet you exploited the bounties. The rewards for playing 7 seconds of a bounty far outweighed the rewards for doing well in a 20-30 minute game of turf. Are you really surprised at all by it being nerfed? Bounties were never meant to be the top source of money and xp anyways. Now you have to actually play the game (and be good) at the game. I know, awful shame for those not interested in playing like everyone else ☹️
Passive aggressive much? It’s okay, if others enjoy gaming a different style than you. Young, handicapped, family oriented, full time workers, etc... many of us can’t play enough now to enjoy the game but that doesn’t mean we’re bad?

For you to insinuate you’re better than others or that we need to “be good” is super condescending and slightly uneducated when you don’t game with most of us or know our skill levels.
I would love to play with or against you to learn how to be better? Which platform are you on?
EDIT: I exploited the bounties. 😎👍
GraveledStoopid
7 years ago
Absolutely, everyone did. That was the point of being a founding member, find the bugs and report them. Essentially, it’s players like the original poster that are trying to make this game better.
Experience in pvp is also a joke and so is what counts as a vanquish and or assist. Drop 85% of the damage on someone and not get the XP for the vanquish is laughable. Why would you tank and play the game when you can just sit back and 1 shot vanquish. They have taken all the XP advantage of tanking and credited it to those that play hide-and-go-seek. Now we get to watch Imps snipe from range instead of being up in the battle like they should be. Same thing with mushroom and a host of other characters. Devs reward play types that dictate gameplay, then change gameplay when people complain of imbalances. Change how you reward players and you will change the type of play.
YayHorseys
7 years ago
Coming from gw and gw2 I hate how underpowered most weapons feel. Instead of nerfing anyone I'd rather buff the others to their level. Weak machine gun style weapons with imperceptible "rapid fire" makes me sad.
GraveledStoopid
7 years ago
@YayHorseys It’s because all auto fire characters primary weapon damage isn’t accounted for, nor is it applied properly. This is what they want to wait until December to fix... 😐
spIash_damage
7 years ago
@GraveledStoopid wrote:
@YayHorseysIt’s because all auto fire characters primary weapon damage isn’t accounted for, nor is it applied properly. This is what they want to wait until December to fix... 😐
I’m hoping the guys/gals return to work on Monday and see the community’s reaction after playing post-patch a few days. Complaints are coming from the most respectful/loyal members of this community...people who never complain.
The window of time to correct these issues is closing quicker than some might think. 🙁
chogath_player
7 years ago
@spIash_damage oops. didn't mean to come off as aggressive or anything. I also didn't say I was better than anyone. Like at all. All I said was you had to do decent in a 30 min turf game to get the same stuff as a person who did solar sisters in 7 seconds. The argument "but i dont have enough time" isn't really a good enough reason. No other game has had an alternative pve method of levelling that is straight up 100x better than the pvp. Only players that actually put the time in and play the game should be rewarded with stuff not people spamming solar sisters for 2 hours. (Like with most games with this kinda system).
spIash_damage
7 years ago
No - I couldn’t disagree more.
GW2 had community events and daily challenges that could be completed in a timely manner so that completionists had a chance to earn rewards without playing 6+hours per day. Inherently, the community as a whole benefited by people being online more and servers staying FULL. Now, many of us are forced to play modes or characters we don’t want to in order to have achieve the rewards BfN has to offer. This results in many people not playing PvP modes as often and is counter-intuitive to community building.
I made a large reply in the other active thread discussing this topic further... but in short, I politely/passionately disagree with ya.
EDIT: you said you had to be good at the game... that insinuates anyone not completing the map isn’t good? I digress... truly.
😊👍
chogath_player
7 years ago
@spIash_damage You had to work long and hard to get the same rewards as a 7-second bounty. That isn't fair at all to the player who played online. The xp earn rates are awful you are not wrong. My main point was that people that play the game in general should be rewarded with good stuff. Bounties did make it really easy to get bulbs, but it made playing pvp, the games main focus, kind of irrelevant. Why would I tryhard in a pvp game for 30 mins when I could just kill solar sisiters in 7 seconds and be rewarded the same stuff?? They badly need to adjust xp earn rates. I'm prety sure the only reason why people managed to complete the last prize map was because:
1. People abused the broken bounty method
2. Daily and weekly quests were bugged upon release and gave people new missions the instant they completed the last.
Nerfing Bounty Hunts was a genius decision for PopCap to make. They just need to heavily adjust xp earn rates in general. I do agree that it is very difficult to earn xp now and its is 100% gonna be really tedious and grindy to complete this new prize map. I think players who play the pvp should get better rewards than offline. The game is harder in online matches because you are fighting people, not bots. The pve SHOULD 100% also be a viable source of xp and coins, but it should never be better than online play. xp earn rates need serious work.

*pls im not hating on anybody its just my opinion. not saying anyone is bad.
SydeSwype
7 years ago
With all of the given nerfs, what is the current most viable way to get xp? Ive been grinding in pvp all day and only have 30 bulbs. Unless you can put in days at a time, i see the prize maps being impossible to complete with the current low xp rewards.