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Anonymous
10 years ago
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Plants: Use the right team composition

So, there is this whole Zombie are better than plants thing going on. Although I can't deny that the zombies are better one offense with their 4 old classes and that their new classes are slightly better rounded than the Plants, a lot of the problems you may experience as plants come from your Team composition. Why? Well, lets make it simple. Currently, to many people spam Kernel Corn and their is a lack of Citrons and Sunflowers. The Citron is the best character to take the Garden by far, since the ball mode makes it hard to hit and two assault Citron that play tactically and use their CC effectively can easily take over a Garden. Also, did I mention that Citron is the ideal counter to Scientist, Z-Mechs, Imps and Super Brainz? Learning to become a good Citron will make these classes much easier to handle. If there where more Sunflowers charging into the Garden with a Citron or Peashooter and be ready to sacrifie their lives for the greater good, the teams would do way better. That doesn't mean that Kernel Corn is a bad character, I think he's the second best capture class. However to many people (and I am guilty of it too) just use him like a Cactus and spam the Garden with the Shuck Shot and Butter Barrage. If you're team is composed of a bunch of squeakers (which happens to me every single game on both Plants and Zombie sides), just get 1 or 2 friends to help you, it will make the game much more enjoyable. That doesn't mean that I think that a certain Zombie tank could use an HP nerf because he outclasses the other one by far (yes, I'm looking at you, Super Annoyanz)


  • @Boolerex wrote:

    Do people even tried to play rose in herbal assault to get the Teleporter post-patch?


    @Boolerex

    Post patch yes I have tried, I think I managed to build the same teleporter three times, it got destroyed 5 times and I died about 10 times...we had another Rose trying to help build it.

    Please don't bother telling me all the plants had to hold my hand and defend the teleporter with me, how would the objective be won then?

    I wont try again, anymore. Class is total trash, tickles the enemy...

    @xxSe4l-MLG420xx

    Your opening lines say it all, you can't give everyone a tutorial on which classes to play and how to play them. Brainless zombies don't need that, they have double the health and double the firepower.

    You obviously haven't even played Citron to say it's a counter to the Mech, the stun doesn't stop primary damage, it only stuns the abilities of the Mech for 5 seconds, amazing...? No seriously, that's amazing...

    Balance is NEEDED, plain and simple.

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    Anonymous
    10 years ago
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    Since the zombies have no need for forum threads pertaining to "strategy" in order to completely obliterate the plants. There is obviously a balancing issue that needs to be addressed in favor of the plants. This whole team cohesion concept is a complete and utter joke. I see a few sunflowers in games, so it's not like they don't exist. It doesn't seem like they're doing well with them. Rose is a very terrible character to be offensive or defensive with now. She has good CC ability, but it's basically limited to that. Her primary, and only form of damage is actually the worst in the game. The devs giving her a homing primary really screws the chances of her ever being anything special, ever again. Citron is ok, but I really hate playing as one. The damage nerf they did to him really does little to help people "want" to play as one lol. 

    I mained sunflowers, and I love them, even though they aren't exactly great killers like a peashooter or a cactus. They're pretty balanced I suppose (I think Alien Sunflower needs a buff!), but not really in the whole picture considering how powerful the zombies are in comparison. But they are pretty squishy... Well they have the lowest hp of all plants (tied with Rose now) and the lowest in the game (tied with the imp) with the vamp flower. So you have to actually be good to be effective with one. Something where the much more powerful but braindead zombies (pun intended) can do with much less thought or ability. This whole idea of trying to get people to use strategy for one side, when the other obviously doesn't need it, is a complete and utter joke. Don't preach it. Seriously. Actual balance needs to take place. 

  • Do people even tried to play rose in herbal assault to get the Teleporter post-patch?

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
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    Or just save yourself the headache and stack corns and spam the cap points with aoe.

    Let's be real, most of the playerbase is made up of very young children and casual adult gamers. No one cares enough about winning to put effort into making a viable team composition.
  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
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    Zombies are doing well right now cause they were dealing with an OP killing machine last patch. Now that the plants brain dead character that used to win them the game is gone they don't know how to win on their own.

  • @Boolerex wrote:

    Do people even tried to play rose in herbal assault to get the Teleporter post-patch?


    @Boolerex

    Post patch yes I have tried, I think I managed to build the same teleporter three times, it got destroyed 5 times and I died about 10 times...we had another Rose trying to help build it.

    Please don't bother telling me all the plants had to hold my hand and defend the teleporter with me, how would the objective be won then?

    I wont try again, anymore. Class is total trash, tickles the enemy...

    @xxSe4l-MLG420xx

    Your opening lines say it all, you can't give everyone a tutorial on which classes to play and how to play them. Brainless zombies don't need that, they have double the health and double the firepower.

    You obviously haven't even played Citron to say it's a counter to the Mech, the stun doesn't stop primary damage, it only stuns the abilities of the Mech for 5 seconds, amazing...? No seriously, that's amazing...

    Balance is NEEDED, plain and simple.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
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    Sorry, I hit the solution button, wasn't meant to happen, don't get to happy. As of right now, I've 30 hours of playtime the Citron class, which I consider a lot since I'm only playing on the Weekendand successfully 1v1 many Mechs. Not all, but a l killed a lot of them. Especially Ice Citron is stupidly good against them. But since you judge me based on what I say, I could just call you the worst plant player of all the time since I'm doing fine as Plants and don't have any problems. But that is not the right way to discuss. You say Citron is Up, I find him to be borderline OP. That's our opinion, and I'm fine with it. However, you seriously underestimate the Power of the Citron. It is hard to master and I completely sucked at playing him for the first 15 hours, but now, In know how to do it. If you rally want me to explain to you how I play as Citron and become the savior of my team (no, just kidding, I become the one guy who tries to cap the point), I wrote a way to big guide how to play as Citron, just go to the guide part ,it's called "How to ball out of control as Citron"

  • @xxSe4l-MLG420xx

    I gave you XP on it this morning when I read it hours ago. 🙂

    You may call me whatever you wish, it won't change facts and stats will it? I posted my opinions and suggestions on a public discussion forum for a reason, and that reason was to get everyone else's opinion and feedback. The few times I've jumped into Mighty Mech I haven't been killed by any Citron, ever. I died rapidly to Pea Gatling after being Gooped in a corner and Chomped, and all this happened right after I got Time Snared by a Rose.

    Fact is, it took half their team to take me down rapid, else I would have cleaned them all.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
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    While i totally dislike this kind of "if plants sucks, its cause people" thread, because on the reality it's just zombie have a  huge advantage i would prefer to have zombies nerfs or some plants have love... well i TOTALLY AGREE with you. (speaking of which i was a zombie addicted on first game, and still, foot soldier is my favorite class)

    Iron Citron counters perfectly Scientists and Frozen Citron is just very good as a support and can replace decently the actual Rose while doing a good job as a team helper.

    I play both and after Rose falling into oblivion i started played these two guyz, which have a similiar playstile, they act like a support, besided the Stun Grenade, remember that tanking is also a way to support your team, and in the meanwhile doing a decent amount of damage, still more than rose cause rose homing now doesnt exist and his projectile speed is so slow to hit people.

    Yeah play Citron actually make my game less frustrating, even when i lost matches are still enojoyable, and maybe im winning just a lil bit more. But just a lil bit, its' still a game team, i cant change a game with a tank meant to support...

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