Plants in Plants vs. Zombies: Heroes, are too strong. I can not enjoy playing this game if the plants are a lot more stronger than the zombies. There are legendary and non legendary cards on the plant side that are really strong.
@megraam wrote:
@Gabochido wrote:
@megraam wrote:
@Gabochido wrote:
Would you mind listing out these decks? I'd like to try them out. I mean this seriously, no sarcasm or anything intended. I have a few decks built but they all have at least one bad matchup so I'm really curious. It would also probably help the devs to know about this tech.
Devs know about it since there are countless complaints about this kind of a decks even on this forum. No one is able to win against this for example: https://a.pomf.cat/jcqcue.webm
Pay an attention to the brains meter at the very beginning of the clip: he is able to make as many copies as he pleases.
Sorry, I thought you were referring to an actual viable deck, not a hacked one, given that the OP is about balancing in the game. I assume that the Devs are on that particular case you pointed to since it's been mentioned before and we can probably expect this to be fixed within the next few weeks, maybe even days, depending on how common the issue is.
No, I was answering to a certain quote "There is no one play style that wins every single time". And unfortunately, devs allow a cheating playstyle in pvzh: enabling constant instablock, playing superpowers from AI heroes, adding constant damage to the enemy player, dropping 9 resource cards on 4th turn etc. etc.
While they don't do anything about it, this style will always win and this is sad.
Do you want to have a civilized discussion or just like to shout out balderdash? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously if you write like this: "While they don't always do anything about it, this style will always win and this is sad."
This is the equivalent of someone in a relationship telling the other person, "WHY DO YOU HATE ME SO MUCH!!!" because they bought the wrong kind of food for take-out.
It's not that they are allowing it on purpose. Obviously the developers are right now freaking out about this hacking that is going on but game development is hard and getting out updates is slow. While there will be things that need to be done immediately because they would completely destroy the game, this isn't one of them, so the developers are working on it, but they are not staying overnight to fix it and, unless they do, these things take time, specially if the problem is something deep inside the engine they are using.
@CarolusRex0313 wrote:
Clearly no advantages here, totally fair
I could also whip up an image capture of any situation in which my opponent let me play my Zombie strategy freely and make it seem like an unfair board position. You can do that in any other card game too. You can't really say that a game is unbalanced from the state of a couple of games.
Not to mention that any plant, no matter how many cards or turns the plant player pushed into it (example being Fertilizer), can be shut down with a simple deadly zombie or a destroying/resetting trick (Trampoline, Rocket Science, Weed Spray, Locust Swarm). Depending on what cards are drawn for each turn, both sides have a chance to look OP given the randomness of the cards you draw(you could draw several weak combos while the opponent can draw a huge combo that can wreck you at some random point)
In the pictures you took, the zombie hero seems to have had some pretty bad draws while you got good ones. The Smash could have had a Rolling Stone, Locust swarm, Weed Spray, or other debuffers in the beginning of the match to deal with a growing Double Mint, but he didn't. In the mean time, the plant hero was able to buff up Double Mint and guaranteed a win as the Smash kept earning not so great cards to deal with the current situation.
However, the Smash could win other rounds against even the same plant hero if luck is on their side. For example, say Captain Combustible drew a Double Mint and placed it with a little boost. But unluckily for him, the Smash has a Locust Swarm and a Rolling Stone or two. The Smash lets Combustible build up a Double Mint with tons of cards (Fertilizer, Embiggen, Plant Food) and eventually ends up losing lots of cards to keep it alive. Smash uses a single card, and then he has a HUGE card advantage.
While some cards seem WAY too strong by themselves with nothing to counter them, there are equal amounts of OP cards on both sides depending on the luck of your situation.
@Gabochido wrote:
@megraam wrote:
@Gabochido wrote:
@megraam wrote:
@Gabochido wrote:
Would you mind listing out these decks? I'd like to try them out. I mean this seriously, no sarcasm or anything intended. I have a few decks built but they all have at least one bad matchup so I'm really curious. It would also probably help the devs to know about this tech.
Devs know about it since there are countless complaints about this kind of a decks even on this forum. No one is able to win against this for example: https://a.pomf.cat/jcqcue.webm
Pay an attention to the brains meter at the very beginning of the clip: he is able to make as many copies as he pleases.
Sorry, I thought you were referring to an actual viable deck, not a hacked one, given that the OP is about balancing in the game. I assume that the Devs are on that particular case you pointed to since it's been mentioned before and we can probably expect this to be fixed within the next few weeks, maybe even days, depending on how common the issue is.
No, I was answering to a certain quote "There is no one play style that wins every single time". And unfortunately, devs allow a cheating playstyle in pvzh: enabling constant instablock, playing superpowers from AI heroes, adding constant damage to the enemy player, dropping 9 resource cards on 4th turn etc. etc.
While they don't do anything about it, this style will always win and this is sad.
Do you want to have a civilized discussion or just like to shout out balderdash? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously if you write like this: "While they don't always do anything about it, this style will always win and this is sad."
This is the equivalent of someone in a relationship telling the other person, "WHY DO YOU HATE ME SO MUCH!!!" because they bought the wrong kind of food for take-out.
It's not that they are allowing it on purpose. Obviously the developers are right now freaking out about this hacking that is going on but game development is hard and getting out updates is slow. While there will be things that need to be done immediately because they would completely destroy the game, this isn't one of them, so the developers are working on it, but they are not staying overnight to fix it and, unless they do, these things take time, specially if the problem is something deep inside the engine they are using.
So while they leave it unfixed they allow the cheating playstyle to win all the time. Exactly what I have said.
So what do you call frenzy? You are discussing this "team-up" as if frenzy doesn't exist. Also, they have sumo zombie and terrify to create a lot of advantageous plays, I bet you don't use those cards, even thou they are ridiculously good.
