Let your voice be heard and finally a good sign they are going to further balance characters.https://twitter.com/JA_Wiebe/status/714912992551260160

It is clear that they are asking for characters, and by that I hope, characters and variants are inclusive. _____ Top 3* Nerfs 1. Imp / Mech (All of them) Imp needs both health and damage decrease, Mech needs to be brought back down to earth on a more balanced scale health wise also. I cannot understand why giving one team a class that has the equivalent of over 500 health and can cause more destruction than any other class was ever a good idea. 2. Super Brainz (Electro Brainz mainly, but all of them) Electro Brainz Beam/Arc damage needs fixing, but Turbo Twister across the board shouldn't be so fast or have so much armour. His Twister can hit around 200 points of damage, and his Fireballs aren't much far off either, couple that with his amazing manoeuvrability it makes him one of the strongest zombies of all. He has simply too much versatility, health and damage...his name is well fitting, but he doesn't need to be miles above every plant. 3. Scientist (Zoologist, Marine Biologist, Chemist, Paleontologist etc, most of them) This one is a tricky one, it's going to pain me the most because I enjoy playing healing classes. I honestly don't see why he needs a double warp, it creates too many situations where a Scientist can pretty much fall from the sky above you due to this. I just feel like his damage could be toned down considerably and maybe at a slight increase in health to compensate. Don't break him though, if he's a healer then tone him down a little, he's the best healing class in the game and one of the best damage output, couple this with his warps makes him my favourite pick every time. *Captain Deadbeard (All of them) I do feel like the Pirates Barrel needs to be looked into as well because right now it has the equivalent of around 500 health due to the ridiculous armour it gives. It is virtually impossible to destroy. Top 3* Buffs 1. Chomper (All of them) This class is not as good as it use to be, and needs to be balanced so it is functional in offensive game modes. Whether that's increasing its health, damage, given invisibility or even a Mech of its own, he needs to be given some major love so more players play this class. I would like to see additional armour given to him when digesting a zombie, damage mitigation / armour when trying to burrow and maybe some sort of digestion bar where he is capable of killing 2-3 zombies before needing to digest. Camera issues when burrowing needs to be looked at as well as the goop timer, that should be reverted. Given the fact this class has no range at all, he should be the most feared up close character class in the game, more dangerous than Scientist who can heal, and definitely more dangerous than Super Brainz who has plenty of range abilities. Chomp cannon should have an increase of damage to 150 as well so it can kill camp snipers if replacing his primary ability of goop. I still wouldn't use chomp cannon ever, but others might actually use it if it was increased. 2. Sunflower (Most of them) This class needs major love, whether it's health increase, damage increase or some sort of ability that includes a blink or shielding. I also feel like a Shotgun type weapon should be given to some weaker variants and make it more on par with the Scientist, right now she is very weak and when trying to capture bases she is killed too easily due to lack of any CC or escape abilities. A blink or a Sheild would be nice, but more health and damage might be reasonable also, she definitely needs something. 3. Cactus (Most of them) I think she should be given damage increase across the board on certain variants but also a close range shotgun similar to the pirate. I feel like Tallnuts are a bit lackluster now and well if it was replaced with a damage or shield aura, she would be able to capture points similar to the Pirate and his Barrel shenanigans. I know on the PC people have might a difference experience but let's be realistic here, compared to Captain Deadbeard she sucks. *Rose (Ice, Fire mainly, but most of them)I feel like she was over nerfed, her charged variants are very weak and she is a bit useless now. She should have a health increase, and damage increase or that slow on her charge should be removed. In terms of damage output, if a Engineer can hit 45s much more rapid why can't this class do the same? Not only are her shots weak but they are very slow as well. Support classes should be able to kill as well, not just tickle the enemy. _____ I honestly feel like there are too many to list here, so I'm going to have to stick to my guns to what I feel is fair. I hope the bugs and glitches about hits registering are fixed as well. I'd quite like to see a good balance of all characters being played, and my nerfs and buffs are a reflections of what characters I see the most, and least respectively.

Yeah... because a tweet provides so much insight... They better read the forums here and not these useless quick opinions on twitter.

Seriously, why is everything decided on Twitter or FB? What's the point of even having sites like this????

In my opinion it is a bit silly that the players have to say what needs to be nerfed. Popcap has the date, we don't.Problem with adding new classes to a game is that the balance will be detroyed, especially when you add 6 new classes at once. Look to World of Warcraft where the PvP got destroyed by all the new classes and it ended up with almost every class could do the same.Since the last patch, Rose is almost gone and Brainz and the scientist are now dominating.Popcap, don't ask us what to nerf, check your data and take your actions From day one it was allready clear that the beam of Brainz has a to long range and its to powerfull. Same for Turbo Twister, it does way to much damage. Together with the huge amount of health it is for the most plants almost impossible to win a 1 vs 1 fight. No need for that.And fix the sunflower please! The scientist has a healing beam, he has an armoured healing station and he can use a healing ball if he wants. He has also sticky balls and a gun fo a lot of damage. He can also blink. And what has the sunflower? A healing beam and an easy to kill potted sunflower. Less mobility and not so much damage. In GW1 it was ok but now is the sunflower a sad healer who is gunmeat.

Limit the scientist tele to 1 instead of 2. Drop Brainz health to 175 and imp to 50. Mechs cannot capture. Id be happy.

Pop cap wants to know the 3 variants to buff/nerf via twitter (link inside)

107 Replies

Anonymous
10 years ago
If I had my pick? Personally?

Buff: Alien Flower/Commando Pea/Rose....any or all Roses.

Nerf: Electro Brainz/ Zoologist/Computer Scientist
KnowsNoLimit
10 years ago
I picked.
Buff: Vampire Flower, Chomp Thing and Ice Rose
Nerf: Electro Brainz, Chemist, Zoologist.
Anonymous
10 years ago
Yeah I sent my picks to him... But I stressed Alien Flower...

You know, the Vamp Flower is actually pretty good as is right now... Definitely one of the better variants for the Sunflower Class.
Screion
10 years ago
Yeah... because a tweet provides so much insight...

They better read the forums here and not these useless quick opinions on twitter.
Anonymous
10 years ago
Limit the scientist tele to 1 instead of 2. Drop Brainz health to 175 and imp to 50. Mechs cannot capture.

Id be happy.
Zaheen1337
10 years ago
It's a pity ZackScott and ZeroX cant even list 3 classes to nerf.

I haven't used Twitter for like 3 years, but here goes...
llachie
10 years ago
Do not touch science teleports, it has always been two - warp in, warp out. Oh and also I don't think the vampire flower needs a buff, honestly to me it's slightly overpowered. It has a fast rate of fire and head shots can be devastating combined with self healing usually results in long vanquish streaks.
Anonymous
10 years ago
Interesting...why post that there and not here?
superxmario128
10 years ago
only 3 characters each? least it's better than nothing for awhile. i don't have a twitter so i'd hope the devs look here for suggestions too but i think character classes need buffs/nerfs in general aside from just a specific variant.

in that case buff ice rose, chomp thing, stuffy flower
nerf: electro brains, super brainz twister attack (not a variant but really needs a nerf) and...that's it on my thoughts in terms of nerfs on variants.
Anonymous
10 years ago
Nerf: electro brainz, lil drake, zoologist

As for the buffs I can't even begin to think of 3 considering how useless most of the sunflower and cactus varients are.