Let your voice be heard and finally a good sign they are going to further balance characters.https://twitter.com/JA_Wiebe/status/714912992551260160

It is clear that they are asking for characters, and by that I hope, characters and variants are inclusive. _____ Top 3* Nerfs 1. Imp / Mech (All of them) Imp needs both health and damage decrease, Mech needs to be brought back down to earth on a more balanced scale health wise also. I cannot understand why giving one team a class that has the equivalent of over 500 health and can cause more destruction than any other class was ever a good idea. 2. Super Brainz (Electro Brainz mainly, but all of them) Electro Brainz Beam/Arc damage needs fixing, but Turbo Twister across the board shouldn't be so fast or have so much armour. His Twister can hit around 200 points of damage, and his Fireballs aren't much far off either, couple that with his amazing manoeuvrability it makes him one of the strongest zombies of all. He has simply too much versatility, health and damage...his name is well fitting, but he doesn't need to be miles above every plant. 3. Scientist (Zoologist, Marine Biologist, Chemist, Paleontologist etc, most of them) This one is a tricky one, it's going to pain me the most because I enjoy playing healing classes. I honestly don't see why he needs a double warp, it creates too many situations where a Scientist can pretty much fall from the sky above you due to this. I just feel like his damage could be toned down considerably and maybe at a slight increase in health to compensate. Don't break him though, if he's a healer then tone him down a little, he's the best healing class in the game and one of the best damage output, couple this with his warps makes him my favourite pick every time. *Captain Deadbeard (All of them) I do feel like the Pirates Barrel needs to be looked into as well because right now it has the equivalent of around 500 health due to the ridiculous armour it gives. It is virtually impossible to destroy. Top 3* Buffs 1. Chomper (All of them) This class is not as good as it use to be, and needs to be balanced so it is functional in offensive game modes. Whether that's increasing its health, damage, given invisibility or even a Mech of its own, he needs to be given some major love so more players play this class. I would like to see additional armour given to him when digesting a zombie, damage mitigation / armour when trying to burrow and maybe some sort of digestion bar where he is capable of killing 2-3 zombies before needing to digest. Camera issues when burrowing needs to be looked at as well as the goop timer, that should be reverted. Given the fact this class has no range at all, he should be the most feared up close character class in the game, more dangerous than Scientist who can heal, and definitely more dangerous than Super Brainz who has plenty of range abilities. Chomp cannon should have an increase of damage to 150 as well so it can kill camp snipers if replacing his primary ability of goop. I still wouldn't use chomp cannon ever, but others might actually use it if it was increased. 2. Sunflower (Most of them) This class needs major love, whether it's health increase, damage increase or some sort of ability that includes a blink or shielding. I also feel like a Shotgun type weapon should be given to some weaker variants and make it more on par with the Scientist, right now she is very weak and when trying to capture bases she is killed too easily due to lack of any CC or escape abilities. A blink or a Sheild would be nice, but more health and damage might be reasonable also, she definitely needs something. 3. Cactus (Most of them) I think she should be given damage increase across the board on certain variants but also a close range shotgun similar to the pirate. I feel like Tallnuts are a bit lackluster now and well if it was replaced with a damage or shield aura, she would be able to capture points similar to the Pirate and his Barrel shenanigans. I know on the PC people have might a difference experience but let's be realistic here, compared to Captain Deadbeard she sucks. *Rose (Ice, Fire mainly, but most of them)I feel like she was over nerfed, her charged variants are very weak and she is a bit useless now. She should have a health increase, and damage increase or that slow on her charge should be removed. In terms of damage output, if a Engineer can hit 45s much more rapid why can't this class do the same? Not only are her shots weak but they are very slow as well. Support classes should be able to kill as well, not just tickle the enemy. _____ I honestly feel like there are too many to list here, so I'm going to have to stick to my guns to what I feel is fair. I hope the bugs and glitches about hits registering are fixed as well. I'd quite like to see a good balance of all characters being played, and my nerfs and buffs are a reflections of what characters I see the most, and least respectively.

Yeah... because a tweet provides so much insight... They better read the forums here and not these useless quick opinions on twitter.

Seriously, why is everything decided on Twitter or FB? What's the point of even having sites like this????

In my opinion it is a bit silly that the players have to say what needs to be nerfed. Popcap has the date, we don't.Problem with adding new classes to a game is that the balance will be detroyed, especially when you add 6 new classes at once. Look to World of Warcraft where the PvP got destroyed by all the new classes and it ended up with almost every class could do the same.Since the last patch, Rose is almost gone and Brainz and the scientist are now dominating.Popcap, don't ask us what to nerf, check your data and take your actions From day one it was allready clear that the beam of Brainz has a to long range and its to powerfull. Same for Turbo Twister, it does way to much damage. Together with the huge amount of health it is for the most plants almost impossible to win a 1 vs 1 fight. No need for that.And fix the sunflower please! The scientist has a healing beam, he has an armoured healing station and he can use a healing ball if he wants. He has also sticky balls and a gun fo a lot of damage. He can also blink. And what has the sunflower? A healing beam and an easy to kill potted sunflower. Less mobility and not so much damage. In GW1 it was ok but now is the sunflower a sad healer who is gunmeat.

Limit the scientist tele to 1 instead of 2. Drop Brainz health to 175 and imp to 50. Mechs cannot capture. Id be happy.

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Anonymous
10 years ago
PopCap should make the rainbow distortion for which we have the unicorn chomper the can be used with any chomper this ability not only in that so it would be best reward for which we get to that level and we want to GW2 get equal to the maximum level and when play with the other chompers we can use this unique skill level have 313.
Anonymous
10 years ago
WWhile i think there are not many class to nerf besides Electro Brainz and some Scientists i think there too much underused variants there are neverused or used so rarely because they have no pick potential.

So its pretty hard to choose.

I'd say

Nerf: Zoologist, Electro Brainz, Ice Perry

First i think only Zoologist and Ice Perry need a nerf even if they are not the best variants of those class, because i think they can counter too much the only plant strategy to win in this meta.

Buff: Electro Pea, Frost Rose, Electro Citron/Base Citron?

There are so many class i think they deserved a buff, but since these ones are very funny to play, such a pity they are in a bad spot.

Electro Pea doesnt need too much buff. I think he only need some projectile speed. But too much projectile speed could increase too much his dps on low range. I think the projectile speed should increase as far as the bullet travels. So same dps on low range and more decent to high one. Pretty interesting, what do you think?

Electro Citron/Base Citron: I think they could buff some base damage, just a little bit.
Anonymous
10 years ago
@TheFatManatee wrote:
@CheeseFrog1 wrote:
Plants seriously need some form of damage mitigation when rooted (peashooter & sunflower).
they do, i think it is around 15%
No, they don't. I mean damage mitigation comparable to the Engineer's turret gun mode. I think they have something like 50% mitigation.
And Captain Deadbeard needs a speed reduction while in barrel form. It's absurd that he can run down unencumbered classes with no speed penalty while enjoying nigh invulnerability and a 1-shot kill AOE burst.
Anonymous
10 years ago
Welp, in my personal opinion...

Buff: Law pea/All Rose/ Plumber

Nerf: pylon imp/Future cactus/(This isn't a cahracter but an abiltilty that really annoys me, husk hop, it can literally kill a scientist instantly.)
Anonymous
10 years ago
Have you played GW1 and used the 1 tele cheesy ability? It dealt damage once teleported to an area, and you can only use one! Course, it was removed because it was for promotion, but the two tele ability deals no damage whats or ever and travels at a slow distance than in GW1

Also if Imp was back to 50 health it can easily be killed by a classic peashooter by just two critical hits, and 5 splash damage which is unfair.

Also super brainz needs 200 health for his spinning ability, or he would die for the damage taken from the plants.
Anonymous
10 years ago
@TheZenCactoos
Hahahaha
just hahaha
are you for real?
i will help you with this
pls add 700 hp to the mech, this way I can solo the plant team more easily
MutantMonkeyMan
10 years ago
I have a good idea on who they should nerf. Go check out my channel MutantMonkeyMan
Anonymous
10 years ago
NERF:    Zoologist's damage or clip size,    NERF:    Captain Sharkbite's Laser     CHANGE:  Chompers' ability to entangled the captain and engineer in spikeweeds when they are on their mount!!!   how is that even possible!? they cant move. so how can they walk into a spikeweed.
BUFF:   ALL ROSES!  But especially ice rose. She is the worst player in the game by far.  Buff their damage, speed and health! Ice rose also needs better homing. I realize the rose is supposed to be a support character, but in a gamemode like Team Vanquish, or Vanquish Confirmed she is such an easy target. I have never her in those gamemodes because of her low health and bad accuracy in a 1 vs 1 fight.
BUFF:    Captain Cannon and Petrified Cactus  buff splash damage and maybe speed. These 2 characters have a hard time hitting targets because of their shot style. Especially at long distances.   Electro Pea does not need any buff because of the added electro damage he deals. Maybe a tiny tiny damage buff for the electro pea.
Anonymous
10 years ago
Anonymous
10 years ago
Electro pea just needs to be more like the commando pea. That would be great.

Electro citron needs a buff to. Wish he had a beam like the other citrons. Right now his arc does more damage than than the direct hit. From a distance you do 4 with a direct hits and 10 to the zombie next to him. Lol.

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