OVERPOWERED AND UNFAIR But for the latest update, there is a card called “ QuickDraw con man “ .. sorry for the language but it’s ***** crazy, unfair and stupid !!! It’s sooo cheap ( the cheapest cost could ever be ) , so powerful special power with a bullseye!! and so strong on health !!! And yet it’s only super rare !!!!!!!!!!!! It’s making the game really sick and provoking , every zombie player with crazy class has the 4 cards and they are always played in the first turn, it’s health is 4 so it will surely last for the second round and every plant that’s put infront of it will be excuted easily ( because of the crazy class ) and not even berry blast can take it down because it’s 4 health !!!! So I have to sacrifice 2 berry blasts and maybe a plant and at least take 4 bullseye damage for a card that’s only super rare and costs ONLY 1 !!!! That’s the best case scenario I faced, imagine playing against 2 of them in the 2 second round or sometimes 3 in the second !!!!!! Absolutely provoking and upsetting !!!! I almost faced that scenario 8 or 9 times yesterday!!!!! And in the other side, look at the kabloom class, the card that’s similar to these characteristics is the astro shroom and it’s ridiculous, only 1 health !!! And I have to play a plant to hit the hero with a 1 bullseye but it’s so hard to preserve it because it’s so weak , and yet it costs one and it’s super rare just like QuickDraw con man !!! you must do something about it !!! .. I can'yt bear the paralysis I feel when I face this thing it’s really overpowered and provoking Make it not bullseye /decrease it’s health and make it cost more than one please do anything about it every crazy zombie player that starts with 2 quickdraw con man is winning almost every game and i can’t do anything It was carelessly designed and put in the gameAdjust it please.. thanks

@z_elmo21 wrote:look man, @patdk75 .. i'm not a frequent forum checker , i only open it when i have issues with the game, and i can clearly posts whatever i want and you still can't complain about it, you can just skip, Frequent forum contributor or not, it's your responsibility to yourself and others to see if something has already been posted. Might save YOU a lot of time to see what's already been discussed.@z_elmo21 wrote:i've reached the ultimate league in each and every season since the seasons and leagues mode started, with over than 50 stars, so i'm not a desperate new player trying to reach the top by whining , But if you are a consistent UL player @z_elmo21 you are invalidating your argument that this card needs to be nerfed. By that I mean we are on what...our third season with QCM having been released, but according to you, you make UL every time. So it's more of an annoying card that has potentially slowed you down rather than one that has broken the game. Good players find ways to win by modifying their decks, which sounds like you do. Venting I get, but calling for nerfs (which are in the works) because you want an "I win" button are silly.BPRD

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@patdk75 wrote:My frustration is more to the fact that what was once a semi active forum, where there were decent debate and conversations, and the clique peas incident was a flicker of what has become. It seems like the majority of the posters from a few months ago have dissipated, and I do realize that everything is a fad to some extent and some people may have just gone back to randomly checking in, rather than posting pics of a funny thing in a game, or something weird that happened ingame etc, or even asking for help or questions about whether this is possible or something like that....and now its same thing over and over again.I echo the sentiment. A few months back I felt this forum was more fun to participate in. After the dozenth post on QCM, it's boring to participate because I don't care to repeat myself and I like to think I only post when I have something worthwhile to contribute (your perception of my post's value may vary 🙂 ).BPRD

Who said anything about it being unfair? I don't mind a disparity in playstyles (since the game is asymmetric anyway); I'm just saying it seems odd that some Plant players are up in arms about a lesser version of what Zombie players have been dealing with for some time.

@z_elmo21 https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/SPOILERS-Coming-Soon-Changes-to-Existing-Cards/td-p/6487108 Quickdraw Con Man 1/4 --> 1/3( I added the link to my favorite list for all these posts 😃 ) About AstroShroom, is a great card, give him an oportunity, you have no idea how good it is.

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18 Replies

Anonymous
8 years ago
It is getting nerfed.
saintlydevilis
8 years ago
We know the frustration you feel. I think they wanted the zombies to be over powering, well it worked they are..
Anonymous
8 years ago
is that assured ?
Anonymous
8 years ago
Maybe read some of the threads before posting yet another pouty post. There's only a dozen or two other threads devoted to this.
And on another note, astroshroom compared to conman is ridiculous. In my opinion, Astroshroom is actually a really good card, and it works as is. If it did 2 damage and bullseye it would have to at least be legendary, and considering the possibilities for Astroshroom to win the game during the plants main phase, they did good with this card.
One thing I have to say about QuickDraw, is it should have been a party zombie and not a pirate.
And again, the devs should have made a plant counterpart for conman and I don't think there would have been an issue. Probably the opposite in fact, zombie heroes that are big brainy players would be the ones up in arms because of their insane card drawing ability.
Also, until the nerfs happen, there are still plenty of ways to deal with QuickDraw. Maybe instead of having twenty threads complaining about the card, there could have been one or two that were community discussion on ways to deal with it.
@z_elmo21 I apologize for all this seemingly directed towards you, that is not the case. I do however, invite you to scroll down and look at what I am referring to in regards to the amount of topics already.
I'm just a bit put off by the forums lately, as it is intended for helping one another, and not just complaining about the same thing over and over again and again for weeks and weeks.
Anonymous
8 years ago
look man, @patdk75 .. i'm not a frequent forum checker , i only open it when i have issues with the game, and i can clearly posts whatever i want and you still can't complain about it, you can just skip,
and if it was posted that much, then it's a big deal and the developers have to listen, i didn't hear anything about it being nerfd , i even don't know where i can know that.
and for the astro shroom, me myself, i've reached the ultimate league in each and every season since the seasons and leagues mode started, with over than 50 stars, so i'm not a desperate new player trying to reach the top by whining , i have more than 4 super powerful decks i've created myself ( i only play with solar flare so i'm a much of an expert in solar and kabloom ) and not a single time in all of my attempts i've drove something powerful with astro shroom, it's just a good a card but not remarkable, just a card that can do some damage but surely will be destroyed in vain after facing any zombie and not even hurting it,
if you'd like to, give me your username we can duel haha
BlazinsZ
8 years ago
@z_elmo21
https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/SPOILERS-Coming-Soon-Changes-to-Existing-Cards/td-p/6487108
Quickdraw Con Man 1/4 --> 1/3
( I added the link to my favorite list for all these posts 😃 )

About AstroShroom, is a great card, give him an oportunity, you have no idea how good it is.
2666f6387a9cadb
8 years ago
Love astro shroom. It's a well balanced card that is easily killed but can have a useful and nasty effect when combined with various mushrooms. Until recently I was using a Nightshade shroom deck that took me to Ultimate, and relied on swarms of early shrooms to deal damage.
If Conman were even one health less or one point more it would be a fair card, difficult but not unbalanced. As it stands I deal with it. It is tough, especially when boosted or buffed but its okay. Does not itself break the game.
I like most of the new cards I just think they are overly efficient and it makes me worry about power creep in the game, where entry level is too difficult. Most collectible games have a chase card or figure that is too efficient or synergizes well with an impossible to beat deck. Then to retain interest each side ends up in an inflationary war where each new set has even tougher opponents than the one before. Eventually entry level players find it impossible to transition from middling level play to top competition. And the winners are usually those who spent the most. Then when the developers ret-con figures to rebalance the field, those who spent money on it often quit. And often the game implodes and becomes a past fad.
Mage Knight. Mechwarrior. D&D miniatures. I miss you guys.
In this case the game is tight but close, Not terrible, just a bit tilted towards zombies right now. Only the Stompadon/Viral combo seem tricky to balance long term. There are easy tweaks that can be done to zomblob or other figures that leave them playable but still nasty.
BPRDHB
Hero (Retired)
8 years ago
@z_elmo21 wrote:
look man, @patdk75 .. i'm not a frequent forum checker , i only open it when i have issues with the game, and i can clearly posts whatever i want and you still can't complain about it, you can just skip,
Frequent forum contributor or not, it's your responsibility to yourself and others to see if something has already been posted. Might save YOU a lot of time to see what's already been discussed.
@z_elmo21 wrote:
i've reached the ultimate league in each and every season since the seasons and leagues mode started, with over than 50 stars, so i'm not a desperate new player trying to reach the top by whining ,
But if you are a consistent UL player @z_elmo21 you are invalidating your argument that this card needs to be nerfed. By that I mean we are on what...our third season with QCM having been released, but according to you, you make UL every time. So it's more of an annoying card that has potentially slowed you down rather than one that has broken the game. Good players find ways to win by modifying their decks, which sounds like you do. Venting I get, but calling for nerfs (which are in the works) because you want an "I win" button are silly.
BPRD
jaydabbler
8 years ago
@z_elmo21
Forum guidelines are found here, (and pasted below). Rule 2&3 both apply to a general idea that forum users should at least attempt a search before posting again about an old topic.
https://answers.ea.com/t5/help/faqpage#are-you
Be kind, respectful, and polite.
Search for an answer to your question before you post a new thread.
Don't ask the same question over and over again.
Post relevant answers to the questions other members ask.
Keep secret stuff secret: don't post personal info. That means your home address, email address, phone number, credit card details, EA account details, or CD-keys / Product Codes.
Follow the EA User Agreement
Report abuse to an EA Community Manager or a moderator. You can click the report button on any offending post.
Anonymous
8 years ago
Astroshroom is one of my favourite plant cards, and it might be a little ironic that the conman is up there for me too, by far my fav colossal even after they drop his health. What really has me frustrated, more confused about some of these "upgrades or neutering" why some of the cards get and others don't or get weakened.
Why did Team Mascot, a common, get a buff from 1/3 to 1/4, when sports decks weren't in any trouble in fact it was just the opposite. The same was for an uncommon, the Zombot Drone Engineer, which gives science zombies +1 strength every time they do damage. I'm just baffled that these cards were buffed and the mascot is far more difficult to get rid of then the conman because it buffs itself and all sports zombies 1/1 every turn.

My frustration is more to the fact that what was once a semi active forum, where there were decent debate and conversations, and the clique peas incident was a flicker of what has become. It seems like the majority of the posters from a few months ago have dissipated, and I do realize that everything is a fad to some extent and some people may have just gone back to randomly checking in, rather than posting pics of a funny thing in a game, or something weird that happened ingame etc, or even asking for help or questions about whether this is possible or something like that....and now its same thing over and over again.

I apologize to the community for losing my temper a few times and saying things that are not warranted(or necessarily allowed in here)

To @BlazinS thanks for the information link. That deserves a kudo as does
@BPRDHB for his mic drop