better doesn't mean you don't play it. Repeat moss is the best plant late game card right now, and that puts mega grow as a super powerful class. Then you get to combine that with solar, who has best removal + healing to get you to that late game, which is why chompzilla is really powerful.
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- Solar has best removal? How come if options of kaboom are much more versatile?
yes, please explain how the versatile kabloom will remove a 6/12 or 6/15 wannabe hero
Also explain how Kabloom can remove team mascot when played with coach zombie, I love to hear it.
Anything Kabloom can remove Solar can as well, but sometimes kabloom does it more efficiently. However, there are a bunch of things that solar can remove (like gargans) that kablooms have a really hard time dealing with.
@Celedorn wrote:
yes, please explain how the versatile kabloom will remove a 6/12 or 6/15 wannabe hero
Also explain how Kabloom can remove team mascot when played with coach zombie, I love to hear it.
Anything Kabloom can remove Solar can as well, but sometimes kabloom does it more efficiently. However, there are a bunch of things that solar can remove (like gargans) that kablooms have a really hard time dealing with.
6/12 means he has 11 health left and I have 7 sun, so it's moss in the free lane (and there is a free lane due to versatile removal kabloom has), +4 attack and +1 bonus attack which deals 18 or 12 if one of these attacks is blocked. You can have your wannabe hero and I will have my win.
Moss is winning on turn 6 or 7 already, and kabloom removal along with best traders like shroom for two is to be sure you survive till you win.
The only actually good card which solar has to offer to moss is taco, and it's worse than berry blast and gravebuster (speaking GK) which helps against worse matchups of moss.
I can see why people think you are troling. You literally just said that kabloom has more versatile removal than solar, and then you talk about moss (mega grow). WHAT?
If you want to make a comment, which lays out one set of an argument, then stick to that argument, not go off on a tangent.
- You have an attention span of a goldfish, haven't you? Make a bit of an effort and read the first page again please. Then think about how your rant looks like.
Celedorn is probably the most experienced player on the forums, just by reading what he writes shows he's not only a good player but he has probably tested it all and encountered a similar situation before posting.
You shouldn't be offended that he suggested that you might be trolling, that's different from calling you a troll. The OP is mostly just joking around and starting funny and interesting discussions about cards he thinks are overpowered and if you think about it logically you're only ever going to see plant cards because he seems to love zombies and isn't that biased?
Also you might want to edit your post, he wasn't even ranting. He is just participating in the discussion like everyone else...there is no need to flame.
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
Celedorn is probably the most experienced player on the forums, just by reading what he writes shows he's not only a good player but he has probably tested it all and encountered a similar situation before posting.
You shouldn't be offended that he suggested that you might be trolling, that's different from calling you a troll. The OP is mostly just joking around and starting funny and interesting discussions about cards he thinks are overpowered and if you think about it logically you're only ever going to see plant cards because he seems to love zombies and isn't that biased?
Also you might want to edit your post, he wasn't even ranting. He is just participating in the discussion like everyone else...there is no need to flame.
Just read the first page when moss issue is being raised by Celedorn himself, yet one page later he miraculously forgets about it and honestly amused by the fact moss and mega-grow is mentioned when all we do is discussing the moss potential played by 3 classes: CC, GK, Chompzilla, when CC is the best at playing proper moss and Chompzilla is actually the worst in the current meta.
Seems like I didn't really look that much into it, just trying to neutralise the hostility.
He did say Solar was good for removal and healing combined though you seemed to pick up on just the removal part. I'll take myself out of this discussion for now, I tried repeater in Chompzilla and in the ten or so games I've played I only drew him once, I played it and buffed him and he killed a zombie...
I usually won or lost before that happened in every other game. Maybe you could have just pointed or quoted his contradictory or forgetful posts instead of calling him a goldfish which, in all honesty did make me laugh because it's something I would say but still...
Lets try and be respectful, there's not many people who use these forums and it's just a card debate.
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
Seems like I didn't really look that much into it, just trying to neutralise the hostility.
He did say Solar was good for removal and healing combined though you seemed to pick up on just the removal part. I'll take myself out of this discussion for now, I tried repeater in Chompzilla and in the ten or so games I've played I only drew him once, I played it and buffed him and he killed a zombie...
I usually won or lost before that happened in every other game. Maybe you could have just pointed or quoted his contradictory or forgetful posts instead of calling him a goldfish which, in all honesty did make me laugh because it's something I would say but still...
Lets try and be respectful, there's not many people who use these forums and it's just a card debate.
Yeah. so please look into it and see we were speaking about moss decks all the time until he suddenly became surprised.
Solar offers good mid-late game survival when moss already wins, so it's useless. Chompzilla's superpower is awful compared to CC's which looks like created to play moss.
I did look into it hence my last reply?
Anyway, I don't have CC as I just got Chompzilla in my last stash of saved gems and well yeah it looks like them hero abilities would make that card really good however, this is the wrong thread 😉
@NotAGamer221 wrote:
Chompzilla is better at playing moss. Solar has good removal and good card draw, and Compzilla's specials are mostly removal or control which helps.
It's close though. CC is also VERY effective using moss.
Moss isn't about removal or control. It's about constant pressure and 1tk as soon as possible. Blazing bark is the best one can buff moss with and berry blasts are here to trigger this block or deal the final 3 damage or clear the board at the beginning. Chompzilla offers only taco actually which is good but not as good as kabloom variety.
As much as I used to love CC for repeat moss I think it's a cause damage play but I find Chompzilla a bit better due to Pepper MD and Taco and all the removal.
Repeat moss really it only good mid-game and onwards and you have to survive to get there. Taco and removals can help.
I actually don't used a buffed repeat moss as often as opposed to using him to just remove zombies while healing, buffing other plants or remove multiple zombies with Whack or water Balloons.
CC moss is 12 damage at turn 5, your task is to do 8 damage till turn 5 or prevent an opponent to rush over you. I can't say it's midgame.
You can't honestly expect to have the perfect scenario every single match though, right?
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
You can't honestly expect to have the perfect scenario every single match though, right?
This is why best blockers for 1 like shroom for two and berry blasts to zombies make sure I survive till then.
Shroom for Two isn't a good card against Frenzy classes and cards.
There are counters to this, also Newspaper zombie likes these little baby shrooms.
I don't expect a deck running newspaper zombie to win against CC moss honestly.
And there are no frenzy zombies for 1 and 2 cc anyway.
Let me repost your exact post
@megraam wrote:
Solar has best removal? How come if options of kaboom are much more versatile?and then i said:
@Celedorn wrote:
yes, please explain how the versatile kabloom will remove a 6/12 or 6/15 wannabe hero
Also explain how Kabloom can remove team mascot when played with coach zombie, I love to hear it.
Anything Kabloom can remove Solar can as well, but sometimes kabloom does it more efficiently. However, there are a bunch of things that solar can remove (like gargans) that kablooms have a really hard time dealing with.
@and then you wrote:
@megraam wrote:
@Celedorn wrote:
yes, please explain how the versatile kabloom will remove a 6/12 or 6/15 wannabe hero
Also explain how Kabloom can remove team mascot when played with coach zombie, I love to hear it.
Anything Kabloom can remove Solar can as well, but sometimes kabloom does it more efficiently. However, there are a bunch of things that solar can remove (like gargans) that kablooms have a really hard time dealing with.
6/12 means he has 11 health left and I have 7 sun, so it's moss in the free lane (and there is a free lane due to versatile removal kabloom has), +4 attack and +1 bonus attack which deals 18 or 12 if one of these attacks is blocked. You can have your wannabe hero and I will have my win.
Moss is winning on turn 6 or 7 already, and kabloom removal along with best traders like shroom for two is to be sure you survive till you win.
The only actually good card which solar has to offer to moss is taco, and it's worse than berry blast and gravebuster (speaking GK) which helps against worse matchups of moss.
Just read your posts, and then let me know how is your argument coherent.
@megraam wrote:
@Celedorn wrote:
Anything Kabloom can remove Solar can as well, but sometimes kabloom does it more efficiently.
First of all, why are you still arguing if you have accepted my point long ago? Yes, kabloom is more efficient than solar, because it's more versatile.
I sincerely hope we don't have to go to the dictionary on the meaning of efficient vs versatile. You clearly don't even understand your own argument (or read my whole post)
The fact that you have no idea that efficient and versatile means two completely different things are very alarming to me.
Solar has more versatile removals.
Kabloom has removals that are more efficient in some situations.
I would use dictionary.com.
Also, no one is backpeddling. I just didn't want to embarrass you publicly that you don't understand the meaning of the words you are using. Therefore, until you actually understand the meaning of the two words you are using, I don't think I can continue this argument.
- So you are backpeddling while saying you aren't. That's nice (actually not).
