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Anonymous
10 years ago

Re: Super brainz is absolutely broken

To be clear, I'm talking about all variants of that super brainz character. 

And ironcatfish, have you actually tried to stop someone using twister as a pea? Please try it and come back and tell me it's fair. And it only takes 2 seconds to kill a pea with that twister technique. Let me ask you something, did you ever Play part 1?

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  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    And honestly I just experienced some major hit detection issues. Wow this game is actually broken. 

  • Super Brainz himself is a bit overtuned, while Electro Brainz is just plain broken because of his beam alone.

    The problem is that he's just too well rounded with little to no downsides. He can do well at range and melee between his abilities and attacks - and to top it all off, he's got 200 hp. It also doesn't help that you see 4+ Superheroes each game because of it. 

    He needs to have his ranged capabilities toned down so he becomes primarily a melee bruiser. Because as is, there isn't much incentive to play soldier over him.

    PS: If they don't nerf his beam, reduce his hp to 175 or so.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    So you want his beam to do 2 Dmg? Okay lol

  • @Infamousgoose wrote:

    To be clear, I'm talking about all variants of that super brainz character. 

    And ironcatfish, have you actually tried to stop someone using twister as a pea? Please try it and come back and tell me it's fair. And it only takes 2 seconds to kill a pea with that twister technique. Let me ask you something, did you ever Play part 1?


    As a matter of fact, I have.  Just go into your gatling stance and tank the damage, if your hyper isn't available to escape.  Besides it takes more than two seconds for the twister to beat a pea or even a sunflower at full health. 

    Yes, I played GW1 and maxed my rank.

  • jacknutt33's avatar
    jacknutt33
    10 years ago

    You cant escape with hyper if you get caught in the twister.  You could try the gatling, and i agree, that's your best bet, but even if you manage to win that fight your health will be almost all gone and you get taken out by someone else immediately.  I think we all basically see the same thing and I would describe it as follows.  No character, plant or zombie, should be excellent at both ranged attacks AND melee combat.  In a nut shell i think that is the problem with Brainz...and maybe the Pirate too.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    At mid-long range (with exception of electro, which I think we all agree is broken) a brainz will not beat a pea unless the pea is terrible.  The pea is a tiny target and does more damage at range than the huge, easy to hit brainz.  At close range (surprise!) the brainz SHOULD kick your puny little butt.  I play a cactus quite often and I freaking love seeing all of the brainz running around because they are so darn easy to hit.  200hp melts away fast.  I'll usually kill 5 or 6 of them before one of them wises up and decides they have to get close.  Once they close the distance, they will destroy me in no time flat.  Brainz class is not broken.  Only electro needs a slight nerf on AE dmg...

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    I was borderline pro with the pea in part 1. I can barely take out one of these electro brains with any health left. He has too much power. It's totally unfair that you have to land every single shot and play your cards perfectly just to be able to beat one of these things. On top of that, they have 200 health!

    It used to be you could take out a football guy with a pea if you were an exceptional player. With the hit detection problems on ps4, you really can't beat out the super brainz. If you play on PC, you shouldn't be voicing your opinion on this thread. I believe I speak for most people when I say this is an issue on consoles.
  • And what will be fixed next patch?  The mic so we can talk to each other on PC... 

    That is more of a priority than this idea that Brainz is broken.  All they gotta is give party brainz a little kick and reduce arc damage from electro beam and you can call it a wrap.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Honestly if you're on PC, you shouldn't be suggesting patches for console. That's outrageous
  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    @Infamousgoose wrote:
    Honestly if you're on PC, you shouldn't be suggesting patches for console. That's outrageous

    That's an outrageous statement- I play on PS4 with a PS4 controler without aim assist and on PC with mouse and keyboard and neither my gameplay or my accuracy change all to much. Besides that, team composition in this game doesn't differ too much on the various platforms .So why would you shut down somebody's opinion based on their platform?v That's just a cheap way to avoid a discussion

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Really? He doesn't play on ps4 and he gets to decide the patches?

    You're painting it like its the same on ps4 and PC. You realize the general consensus of universally EVERYONE is that it's easier to play tps and fps games on PC. Where have you been in the last 20 years?

    I would like for you to honestly tell me why someone who plays a different version of the game should decide what another's is like.

    I don't go saying they should change the PC version. For all I care they could leave it as it is.


    Edit: also, you're using yourself as the sample in parity between console and PC. You have no idea how laughable that is.
  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    To make the answer short: The coding as well as the counters for Super Brainz are the same among any platform. It doesn't matter what platform I'm playing on, I use the same counters and usually have succes, unless I start the fight with low HP, and even than, I can usually escape because his "sniping laser" has laughable damage and accuarcy
  • @ChikoWiko

    His Twister does the best part of 200 damage, and so does his triple fireballs.

    Given the fact he has the best jump in the game, a flying kick, and he can cast all these whilst in mid air, along with an infinite melee combo that hits really hard, and the fact he can cast a beam, you're complaining about his beam being nerfed before its even happened? You are the perfect example of someone completely clueless Chiko, seriously. Not to mention, Sombrero bean bomb hits for 87 against a Twister, Pea Gatling does 3s against Twister.

    I know everyone who plays Pirate is keeping their mouth shut as well, that barrel BS needs fixing also.

    I will refrain from mentioning Mechs in this thread, I've said my piece and my opinion isn't gunna change 🙂

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    I understand what you're saying. And I bet you're a good player. But PC and console are very different. I'm not out of line to say that. It's always been so.

    The changes most of us are proposing will only matter on consoles. How does that affect PC players? Is this a "principle" kind of thing? it makes no sense.

    I really hope they tweak the platforms accordingly. It sounds like super brainz is a lot more manageable on the PC.
  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Yes, it is mostly a principale thing. I've seen a lor of discussions outside of gaming being shut down with cheap arguments, so I swore to myself to always prevent this. You don't need to accept everything that a PC or Hybrid player says, but I don't think you should invalidate his argument based on his platform. Besides that, I actually agree with you that Super Brainz could get a nerf, preferably his HP, but not because he's the most OP crutch ever, but because he completly outclasses the All-Star.
  • I doubt it any harder to press the hyper button for peashooter to get out of melee range/turbo twister in console but wharever.

  • @Boolerex

    You cant escape the twister with hyper !  That's part of the problem!   Have you even tried?  If you play on the PC AND hyper can get you out of the twister attack then the console version is even more screwed up that I thought. ....  Im on XboxOne BTW.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Yup you can't. It freezes everything on console. You'll be lucky to escape it with hyper. And even if you activate it it deals damage mid jump so you're still dead.

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