Rose / Imp - feedback

Yeah the impkata nerf is understandable, I don't have any problem with that being a weaker move that is basically just there to use once you run out of ammo or something.

I agree that the Imp isn't as fun anymore with all the nerfs...we were concerned after seeing the patch notes and it does seem like he took a much harder hit than he needed. His original speed and damage is really essential to his class so I really prefer it return to normal...it shouldn't take two clips to kill an enemy when you have less than half their health to fight with. Impkata was the only thing that was really annoying in the Beta because it took no skill to get kills...just plants being in range...

As for Rose, just fixing her tracking would solve a lot of issues. She is completely taking over the multiplayer and not in a good way...Rose now takes literally no aim whats so ever to get a kill and its not only making Imps less fun to play( on top of their nerf), but making the zombie team less fun in general...Her time snare still seems very long too. 

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@xcrimsonlegendx wrote:

I just don't get why so many people in the beta complained that she was weak, when in fact she was perfectly balanced if you played her as a support class and not as a soldier. Everyone said buff and so she got buffed, now everyone is realizing that it was a bad idea. Just goes to show that the community doesn't always know what is best as far as game design and sandbox balance.

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Some gamers just do not understand how strong characters are that have a decent homing attack. Rose does low damage because her attacks already have the necessary requisites that allows for easy hits on the target. I do not have early access to this game, but this sounds like a problem that should be addressed soon.

On a side note, Defiance reference...?

Played some turf takeover during EA access. So throwing my two cent:

First here the change that Rose got compared to beta:

- Damage increased (9 to 10.5)

- Reduced stamina cost for Arcane blast when in Arcane Enigma form (Decreased Subsequent Duration Consumption from 50 to 25 (Allows for maximum of 3 blasts))

- Rose Magic Thistles target lock improvements. This allows the player to move the crosshair off of their target for up to 0.5s before they lose the lock.

- Rose now does regular damage to Mechs instead of blocked damage.

Dunnos what was her state in beta,but looking at it,look like the biggest change are the damage boost and the lock improvement. Again I didn't played beta so I don't know how it looked like during that time but heh.

Rose is sure played alots right now. I know I couldn't do anything as imp or superbrain against her. Engineer vs rose is a ok matchup And Deadboard is good against her at long range (and maybe even in close range). I guess I'm gonna see how it work for the rest. But yeah,rose might be a bit too strong right now

Imp state right now is just "being countered by rose meta right now" Give it time for rose to get nerf and see if imp still end up being bad. (Altrough I kinda fell he might have got overnerfed compared to beta anyway)

Played as Rose again and this time got a chance to play against a bunch of imps. The imps themself are weak, there's no denying that... but once they can call in their mech, then the tides change. As long as I was able to keep my distance, I was able to manage the imps... but as soon as they got in range of impkata, I was pretty much toast.

I've been able to 1v1 Mechs with Rose by just dancing around them and time snaring them. Ice Citron can 1v1 mechs also with an EMPeach and then his freeze. Almost a guaranteed kill.

I'm not saying you can't 1v1 mechs. I'm saying with that option the imps fare much better. Also Rose's tracking is limited on range. Deadbeard should be sniping her out.

From what I can tell roses shots track farther than when the cross-hair is red. Also I would be completely fine/would prefer mechs be weakened if it meant making the imp stronger. 

I'm actually fine with the imp as is now. I think Rose should have tracking she had in the Closed Beta. and reduce the damage to 9.5 - 10 instead of 10.5.

I don't know.. I think a slight damage buff would be a good idea. He's both low health and low damage right now. And not that hard to hit.