Rose / Imp - feedback

Just to preface this post, it is just an opinion from a veteran GW player.

I'm not even that upset about how much damage she does or her primary homing ability for that matter, what bothers me about Rose is that the entire class is built around taking control away from players and limiting what they can do. This is okay in moderation but that is all rose does, being stuck in a time bubble then being killed before you can defend is not fun. Being turned into a goat and having three abilities that are all joke gestures that get you killed if you use them, is not fun. If you do somehow manage to avoid her abilities by engaging while they're in cooldown, all she has to do is use the scientist's energy warp to escape damage and then KILL YOU from within an invulnerable state, not even the scientist's warp can do that. The entire character is built to annoy and bother, in GW1 we had one stun in game with the Engineer and he only had it to counter the Chomper's burrow ability. Now it feels like everyone has some way to take you out of the fight so you just have to watch yourself die. Shooters are about control, if you can control yourself better than your opponent you can always come out on top. When a game has things like Rose in them, it frustrates people because their lives are no longer in their hands. Cheap deaths are never a good thing in a shooter, that's why Chomper's cheap burrow kills were offset with the sonic grenade. There is no counter to Rose, other than joining the plants team.

I don't think Rose's problem is her buffed state, it stems from a flawed character design and nothing is going to change at this point how annoying she is to fight even if her damage is put back in check. GW has always been my go-to game for relaxation but Rose is the first thing to ever make me genuinely upset while playing GW, even in the beta she was annoying and I felt she was poorly designed. Nothing worse than being ambushed from behind and hit with a slow spell and before you're able to turn around you're already dead, its just not fun. Every class should stand a chance in battle, it should never be that simple for one class to rob you of the ability to defend yourself to that extent.

Sorry to vent but Rose is bad, down to the dirt she grew out of.

Fun to play as, not against.

I think you could have easily just posted this in one of the 100 other threads about the same thing instead of creating another one...

So are you saying she was purposely designed that way (to be a pain in the butt), or that she has evolved into that (from initial poor design and buffing after beta). Seems to me GW is all about balance and everything has (or rather should have) a counter. What really annoyed me most in GW1 (and I have been playing that a lot lately) was that stupid toxic peashooter. After a while it occurred to me the majority of peashooters were old toxic, who in my opinion was extremely over powered (spose thats why most people preferred it). I havent played GW2 yet, but getting killed from across the map with no line of sight is just plain stupid. Its always nice to see it coming. Personally when I do get to play the game I wont be playing as Rose just on principle, I'm not into cheap kills and cheap wins.

I'm not sure if she was designed intentionally from the start to annoy but the design itself resulted in that. In GW2 the sight lines are not as large or common so being sniped out is less likely but characters like Rose can literally time snare you and kill you with homing thistles before you can even turn around to see who is engaging you. She's the epitome of cheap characters.

Lol and don't be trying to act like you have not responded to almost everyone of them...

lol... and don't go trying to act like you didn't see any of them, either.

Oh so is this what you do with your time?

Actually, I've ranked up about 10 levels, found a few gnomes and globes, completed a bunch of challenges, and unlocked a few characters... after hitting the gym and putting in my 8 hours of work.

sorry for posting another "rose needs to be nerfed" type post but i think the more people speaking out, the more likely it will get noticed.

Being a veteran of the first game i thought i was prepared, i was for everything besides rose.

When i play i can go the entire game without getting hit, thats what the imp is meant to do, run and gun. Now as soon an i even see a rose i die almost immediately. 5-7 direst hits and your dead. rose fires at full auto. Well then you say, why doesnt corn bother you? Because the kernals dont HOME IN ON THE TARGET. No matter how fast i move or how sexy my tiny flips are, i literally can NOT DODGE any bullet from rose. This is especially prominent on pc where rose-homing would still be op cause of abilities, but now i join a match and they are all rose. Its toxic pea all over again. Make imps faster, nerf the homing, or nerf fire rate i dont care but just let me play imp.

PS: impkata is pretty much useless now especially on pc but thats a topic for another thread.

Edit: reviewing the bio of the ability i have found that the ability makes her take highly reduced damage, "Turns Rose into pure energy, making it immune to damage and allows it to deal a small amount of damage to nearby zombies." pvzgw wiki

Link >http://plantsvszombies.wikia.com/wiki/Rose