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Anonymous
10 years ago

Rose feedback needed

As a rose player I have fairly good knowledge of what rose needs in her playstyle. As all of you know, the patch that destroyed rose was absolutely needed but some of the changes didn't make sense to me. Rose's tracking was greatly reduced (understandably) as well as her health decreasing from 125 HP -> 100 HP, and time snare and gratify were nerfed in the amount of time opponents were trapped in it etc... If you are going to nerf her tracking at least keep her health up so she can stand a chance up close. The patches that helped her were kinda meh... But anyway this is my idea for the rose class.

ALL

Tracking angle slightly increased

Tracking distance slightly increased

Opponents are trapped in gratify for a few seconds longer

ROSE
health increased 100 HP-> 125 HP

Magic thistles damage: 10/11 -> 8/9

DRUID ROSE
100 HP -> 125HP

(Optional) primary weapon dmg: 5/6 -> 4/5

FIRE ROSE
health stays at 100

You can jump while charging

Fire damage slightly decreased

Projectile speed and rate of fire increased

(Optional) full charge now takes slightly longer to charge

FROST ROSE
health stays at 100

Full charge takes slightly longer

You can now jump while charging

(Optional) rate of fire increased

Please give me ur feedback on these changes I put a lot of thought into this. I tried to give her some nerfs to compensate for her health/ tracking buffs, thank you!

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  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    Hi. I've been doing a post about balancing all characters. Rose was supposed to have a great homing, but low damage. But PopCap is terrible at balancing characters, so I studied the characters and had a conclusion. Here are the changes for Rose.

    Rose class:

    All:

    Slightly increase her movement speed (optional)

    Increase homing distance and area 

    Increase health by 25

    Increase magazine by 5

    Increase her jump to be equal to Super Brainz (optional)

    Rose:

    Reduce damage by 1

    Increase rate of fire

    Frost Rose:

    Reduce 3rd charge damage by 10-15

    Reduce 2nd charged damage by 5

    Enables insta-freeze (3rd charge only)

    Completly remove speed penalty and enable jump while charging

    Increase health by 50 instead of 25

    Fire Rose:

    Don't increase her health

    Increase damage by 1

    Increase 2nd charge damage  by 4

    Increase 3rd charge damage by 10 - 30

    Completly remove speed penalty and enable jump while charging

    Party Rose:

    Increase rate of fire

    Increase magazine capacity to match regular Rose

    This is only for the Rose class and her variants. If you want to see the changes for the other characters, click here to go to the full post.

    Sorry for (kinda) invading your post, but please read my changes and tell me if you liked it.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Thank you so much for your feedback! I like ur changes all though I think some of them could make her unbalanced. I do really like the idea of frost rose insta freeze and I think that increasing fire rose dmg is unnecessary as long as her homing is increased. I mean absolutely no disrespect. Hopefully popcap fixes her!
  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    @myles_finegan10

    Well, I tried my best to make her balanced.

    Regular Rose: I decreased her damage (by a bit) since a powerfull homing would be impossible to dodge. I would love to have a great homing again, but if we decrease even more her damage, she will become USELESS.

    Frost Rose: You kinda agreed with me.

    Fire Rose: The reason why I'm increasing her damage to give 60 - 80 against the zombies is because Frost Rose have 45 damage in the 3rd charge shot and Fire Rose have 50. By the way, PopCap is thinking on increase Frost Rose's damage even more. And if you see, Fire Rose health will be "unchanged". This means that she doesn't need a health buff with this super damage buff.

  • StefQc2k's avatar
    StefQc2k
    New Adventurer
    10 years ago

    Rose on Turf Take Over is quite often on the top of leaderboard... in kills... at least on PC

    When you get the homing upgrade... she becomes very powerful but before the homing upgrade... yeah she is lacking... but I don't think any variants of Rose need a buff... except maybe Frost... but Popcap will buff her next tuesday... so no need for further buff for Rose.

    sorry for my english

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Well from what I have seen on both PS4 and Xbox, she is almost never on the leaderboards and if she is it's usually as an assist master, I have her homing upgrade on all my rose's on Xbox and I don't have it on my ps4 from what I've gathered the homing upgrade makes a small difference to an already meh tracking.
  • StefQc2k's avatar
    StefQc2k
    New Adventurer
    10 years ago

    yeah maybe on console it is different... I think aiming is easier with a mouse rather than a controler... The shooter I played on console was COD don't remember which one... and I must say that I was pretty bad at it...lol... I was getting pwned by my nephew... he was so proud...lol

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Haha console leaderboards mainly consist of peashooter, citron, scientists, super brains, and pirates
  • linger4606's avatar
    linger4606
    10 years ago
    The only buff Rose needs is the Arcane Enigma damage.

    If you're going to risk getting up close and inflicting damage, I think it should be greater than 20 (not entirely sure of damage.)
    It's a little pointless to risk using your getaway and inflicting little damage.
  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    You do make a good point, I do think that if her tracking isnt slightly improved, her abilities need to be buffed. Also the frames of invincibility on her arcane enigma need to start faster, I can't tell u how many times I'd go into my enigma and was still taking damage after like 2 seconds (that might not seem like a lot but when u are being attacked it is). Maybe increase the enigma damage 20 -> 30, this way u don't have to use every single ability just to kill an imp/scientist
  • linger4606's avatar
    linger4606
    10 years ago
    Yes, Arcane Enigma needs a buff with time execution and damage increase to 25-30. I have been killed many times activating arcane enigma and taking damage anyways. I mean, you're already in form and still taking damage?

    Invincibility should activate almost immediately

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