Rose needs buff?
Lots of things I love about the October update but was expecting more of a buff for Rose. I don't understand how Kernel Corn could be buffed but not Rose for example. I'm glad he was buffed but was a...
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@ToastedSarnie Sunflower at least has a large ammo clip and apparently got a hidden buff in the patch? People were posting she got an increase in top damage from 5 to 6. I've had a lot more luck with her than with Rose, that's for sure. Not saying she's fine, just more playable right now. Plus between self healing and the sun beam, she's not really bad and teammates love to be near healers so she gets more backup than Rose does.
Engineer is definitely in a better place than Rose. His turret can help even when it's not in the enemy's LoS as the aura can buff teammates, his attack is very solid and can bounce around, and the stun can last for a very long time. His only real downside is that his speed pad isn't a huge help in many situations.
I didn't play Rose all that much in GW2 unless we had that epic quest to get a 10 streak vanquish as getting 20+ streaks with her in TT was pretty easy. I also notice that I can have the reticle dead center on a zombie and still miss with her in BfN. That gets frustrating quickly.
@Iron_Guard8 Yes, I agree sunflower's more playable than rose, though still not perfect. Why a hidden buff though?? Will have to experiment later.
And yes, Rose was perfect for streaks if you knew where she was best placed, I'd comfortably get mid-30s or more (& I've seen people get 70+) for a streak unless opposite someone who was aware of my occasional more combative non-healing days! That's why I'm finding her so difficult, though, it's a big change in style of play to get used to!
And yes, Rose was perfect for streaks if you knew where she was best placed, I'd comfortably get mid-30s or more (& I've seen people get 70+) for a streak unless opposite someone who was aware of my occasional more combative non-healing days! That's why I'm finding her so difficult, though, it's a big change in style of play to get used to!
- @ToastedSarnie I enjoy the rose and can grab a zillion assists in pvp but limited kills. The kill shot with rose is lacking, once more; my sights will highlight on said target and using thistle missile will have 2-4 shots that appear to be direct hits but never register. I will say that I have seen this on multiple characters so I don’t want to say this is rose specific, I just notice it on her the most.
- @GraveledStoopid How high have you got yours? Any particular upgrades you'd recommend?
- @ToastedSarnie Elite I believe, I was working on characters I don’t normally play. (Namely the new ones😉)
I want to use the homing but it doesn’t seem to make a difference. So now I am running thistle missile and maybe the time snare? I will check and report back later when I get on again. 🤙 - @GraveledStoopid Thank you!! 😊
@GraveledStoopid Thistle Missile and Time Snare both make Rose a viable choice. You can also pick Super Savior, revive key teammates like a Sunflower, and when you're in danger you can Arcane Enigma while also still reviving others. You will have the time to pull back and regroup with other teammates if necessary.
There are things that people don't get about Goatifying:
- Goatify can remove overheals from zombies.
- It can stop health regeneration. (needs confirmation)
- You can spawn it from behind walls, but you have to be slightly a bit far and not hugging walls or objects when doing it. Otherwise, the goats will go upwards. (possible bug?) What that means is, you can Goatify more than half of the enemy team contesting on an objective while being behind walls.
[needs testing] It might pause enemy cooldowns while they're in Goat form.Nevermind, goatified targets still have their cooldowns ticking. I personally tested it with split screen with All-Stars. The cooldown didn't stop for the shields after converting him.- Goatality increases the duration from 7 seconds to 10 seconds. This is useful when stealing batteries from zombies. You can goatify pesky Engineers around the batteries for longer while your reliable amazing teammates get the batteries.
To some people, it's a silly ability that seems useless. But it actually has many benefits.
(everything mentioned above is based on the initial release, I'm not 100 % sure about this October patch.)
You can also contest on objectives while in Arcane Enigma. Makes her a good choice to hold off objectives while teammates arrive during overtimes and become part of the problem of "longer Overtime periods" lol.
Rose might not be the strongest DPS-wise, but she is very useful when playing around others.
I did some "personal experiments"... I was following a Chomper, speed boosting him when he swallows and revive him when he's down. I try to Jinx the targets he tries to chomp. It worked nicely but sadly, in this game... everyone wants to get kills on their own and no one wants to play around others. Also, sometimes you have to do everything on your own because most players in this game have their own personal vendetta going on.
- @GammaX6 Thank you, your observations are always great!! 😊
Great observations @GammaX6 as always. I largely agree as usual. The goatify is actually really good, even if the zombies scatter from it, you've set them back at least. Also, I made sure to play her last night and she does feel better for vanquishing targets than pre-patch, largely thanks to projectile speed I presume.
My only beef with Rose is the way so many shots just seem to go nowhere, as I stated earlier, her utility is quite good.
- @Iron_Guard8 I've only really been in Ops today for challenges but I think too that she feels better than she did. The sprint speed also feels faster/smoother. Yet to try turf & have a way to go before I get the best upgrades, but fingers crossed I might actually get them one day now! Thanks everyone for advice!
