@blinddouble Funny, that doesn't apply here in Mexico. They just give you more food.
Ok, let's keep the tractor example.
I agree with you that, if you bought this specific tractor, it's because it suited your needs. (Horsepower, fuel efficiency or maybe even you just liked the color).
The company takes it away from you because it has no other choice, I think we both agree on that part. The devs are going to nerf the cards whether we like it or not.
Ok, so now you have the same tractor with half the horsepower. Nobody is forcing you to keep it if it doesn't suit your needs anymore.
You just... get your money back and buy another one. That's what the devs are doing, allowing you to pick another tractor for free (if you want to) because of the inconvenience.
I suppose that if you purchased your tractor, it is because you needed some help on the farm.
It is kind of dumb to ask a refund of the tractor to purchase a new TV, don't you think?
@blinddouble wrote:
I see what you're saying, I believe. You say that tractor company would give you "store credit" to purchase a different vehicle.
Yeah, something like that.
I can see your point of view, I am also sad that the Leprechaun Imp is going to be nerfed. Even though that I didn't spend any money on it, I did spent 2 legendaries worth of sparks into crafting those little guys. (And I think we can agree how hard is to get those things).
But I also know that their effect was a liiiiiiiiittle bit too strong. I can't remember all the times that a Pot of Gold saved me by letting me draw a much needed answer, hidden in the depths of my deck.
I honestly don't think that I am going to disenchant it, but even if I did, there are many more cards that I would like to have and that with those sparks, I would be able to craft some copies. (Like Kitchen Sink Zombie or Dark Matter Dragonfruit)
But trying to see this situation from the other side (EA side) I think it would be a little bit unfair that (for example) you purchased the Leprechaun Imp and reached high leagues with it many times, just for later ask a refund.
I don't know, that's just my personal opinion.
@Azombioso wrote:@blinddouble Funny, that doesn't apply here in Mexico. They just give you more food.
Ok, let's keep the tractor example.
I agree with you that, if you bought this specific tractor, it's because it suited your needs. (Horsepower, fuel efficiency or maybe even you just liked the color).
The company takes it away from you because it has no other choice, I think we both agree on that part. The devs are going to nerf the cards whether we like it or not.
Ok, so now you have the same tractor with half the horsepower. Nobody is forcing you to keep it if it doesn't suit your needs anymore.
You just... get your money back and buy another one. That's what the devs are doing, allowing you to pick another tractor for free (if you want to) because of the inconvenience.
I suppose that if you purchased your tractor, it is because you needed some help on the farm.
It is kind of dumb to ask a refund of the tractor to purchase a new TV, don't you think?
If Popcap's nerfing of a card is compared to something like a vehicle being improperly built and warranting a type of recall, then you would be reimbursed your money (not credit). When it comes to card changes, whether it be an upgrade or a downgrade, the ethical response should be to offer a compensation for whatever was used to purchase the card in the first place. When it comes to event cards, many people pay the $20 to bypass the grind of earning them for free, and ensuring that they receive four copies. I have done this a few times, specifically because I valued the effects of the card to be worth the money I paid for it. If the card is nerfed, then the value that I placed on it will most likely nerf with it. I only paid the $20, because I wanted to play with that specific card in very specific decks. After nerfing it, I am now forced to re-evaluate the card and decide if it's still valuable enough to play with. If it's not, then the card is worthless to me, and I may never had purchased it to begin with. To be given a type of credit for the game instead of a cash refund would be an assumption that I would have spent the $20 on other cards, which is presumptuous and condescending.
Another post claimed that the terms and service agreement states that when you purchase cards, you don't actually have ownership of them--that Popcap can make any changes they want and aren't legally required to compensate players for that kind of action. Me being a normal person, I didn't read the agreement, nor will I read it now in order to fact check it. I assume it's true, but that doesn't mean that Popcap shouldn't choose to allow a refund. They should make the ethical choice of providing a refund in whatever way the card was purchased. By not giving refunds in an ethical way, it will force me to reconsider ever paying for event cards in the future, because i'm not interested in purchasing a card that has an unknown expiration date.
@PVZ_Yakasaka wrote:
@Azombioso wrote:@blinddouble Funny, that doesn't apply here in Mexico. They just give you more food.
Ok, let's keep the tractor example.
I agree with you that, if you bought this specific tractor, it's because it suited your needs. (Horsepower, fuel efficiency or maybe even you just liked the color).
The company takes it away from you because it has no other choice, I think we both agree on that part. The devs are going to nerf the cards whether we like it or not.
Ok, so now you have the same tractor with half the horsepower. Nobody is forcing you to keep it if it doesn't suit your needs anymore.
You just... get your money back and buy another one. That's what the devs are doing, allowing you to pick another tractor for free (if you want to) because of the inconvenience.
I suppose that if you purchased your tractor, it is because you needed some help on the farm.
It is kind of dumb to ask a refund of the tractor to purchase a new TV, don't you think?
If Popcap's nerfing of a card is compared to something like a vehicle being improperly built and warranting a type of recall, then you would be reimbursed your money (not credit). When it comes to card changes, whether it be an upgrade or a downgrade, the ethical response should be to offer a compensation for whatever was used to purchase the card in the first place. When it comes to event cards, many people pay the $20 to bypass the grind of earning them for free, and ensuring that they receive four copies. I have done this a few times, specifically because I valued the effects of the card to be worth the money I paid for it. If the card is nerfed, then the value that I placed on it will most likely nerf with it. I only paid the $20, because I wanted to play with that specific card in very specific decks. After nerfing it, I am now forced to re-evaluate the card and decide if it's still valuable enough to play with. If it's not, then the card is worthless to me, and I may never had purchased it to begin with. To be given a type of credit for the game instead of a cash refund would be an assumption that I would have spent the $20 on other cards, which is presumptuous and condescending.Another post claimed that the terms and service agreement states that when you purchase cards, you don't actually have ownership of them--that Popcap can make any changes they want and aren't legally required to compensate players for that kind of action. Me being a normal person, I didn't read the agreement, nor will I read it now in order to fact check it. I assume it's true, but that doesn't mean that Popcap shouldn't choose to allow a refund. They should make the ethical choice of providing a refund in whatever way the card was purchased. By not giving refunds in an ethical way, it will force me to reconsider ever paying for event cards in the future, because i'm not interested in purchasing a card that has an unknown expiration date.
So you agreed to something without reading it, but you expect the company to abide by your completely arbitrary expectations rather than to the agreement that they drafted and you agreed to? If that's how you think business works, you'd be entirely correct to refrain from any further purchases, or indeed any contractual dealings of any kind.
