STOP THE TEAM SWAPPING!!!!

No, the option is there because the left out the party feature. I want to play this game with my friends and changing teams is the only chance I have to do that and half the time the teams fill up before we can even switch sides to play together.

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@cruelw1z4rd wrote:

This is seriously getting out of hand and it makes Gardens & Graveyards completely unenjoyable.

 

Every room that I stay in long enough, I notice all of the highest scoring/level players are literally NEVER playing on the Plants team.


This makes for uneven teams and keep you from having a plants team with even a couple of decent players.

Am I the only one that cares if the teams are even? I have been assigned to Zombies and when I see the plants have 3 less players, I switch over to their team.



If you are reading this, and you are a player that does this. Stop. Just stop. You are level 100 and from what I can tell have practically every character unlocked. Stop being greedy for the coins and play a fair game.

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Ummm... no. I'm level 67 or something like that and have all characters unlocked except 2, both of which are zombies. My reason for playing right now is to unlock those last two by levelling them up to 10. When I was levelling up my plants and doing the same thing, nobody complained. My time is precious and I'm trying to make the most of the time I have to play.

Also, level doesn't really mean as much as you think. A lot of the character unlocks are useless. We may have access to a few more abilities than lower level players, but overall it's pretty well balanced. The only thing that concerns me at the end is whether the teams have the same number of players. I've actually been in a few losing games as zombies and had fewer players than plants.

If you want to get mad about something, get mad at the players who don't play the objective. I see scrubs stat padding in games. Nothing annoys me more than that.

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@AWMaxSterling wrote:

If you want to get mad about something, get mad at the players who don't play the objective. I see scrubs stat padding in games. Nothing annoys me more than that.

Can't tell you how many times "high level" plant players ignore their gardens and just rush the zombie spawns to camp. Then one lucky zombie gets though and caps the garden for himself because the a-hole plants are nowhere to be found.

I'll just respond the same way as both of you then...

No.

Good arguments though, as you are clearly not the type of players I was explicity talking about. I am talking about people that play every single round on the zombies, with zero regard for team balance.

The whole level 100 remark was just directed at a player from my last game, but he was also stat padding and not playing the objective.

And, this could be a simple fix as adding the party option, and or also adding a way to detect if you are constantly swapping teams.

You are right though, I would LOVE a party option so that I can actually start playing with people that strategize and work together and communicate and actually want to ENJOY the game as opposed to just win every round.

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@cruelw1z4rd wrote:

This is seriously getting out of hand and it makes Gardens & Graveyards completely unenjoyable.

 

Every room that I stay in long enough, I notice all of the highest scoring/level players are literally NEVER playing on the Plants team.


This makes for uneven teams and keep you from having a plants team with even a couple of decent players.

Am I the only one that cares if the teams are even? I have been assigned to Zombies and when I see the plants have 3 less players, I switch over to their team.



If you are reading this, and you are a player that does this. Stop. Just stop. You are level 100 and from what I can tell have practically every character unlocked. Stop being greedy for the coins and play a fair game.

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I wonder if by chance you are talking about me? I would be rather funny if you were, allow me to elaborate. I am in fact exactly level 100, have all characters unlocked, frequent G&G and as often as possible switch to the zombie team. That is were your analysis stops being accurate. Here is the thing, I have had the sticker book complete for quite some time now, coins mean absolutely nothing to me. I have so many I bet i could max out the next 3 updates instantly. Why then do I play zombies so much?

I play zombies because of the MASSIVE difference in the difficulty of completing challenges. I use G&G most frequently due to the length of games, making in a session challenges more reasonable. At first I did not switch, that is until I got x2 level 20 plants, and x2 15 plants. At the same time my zombies had barely managed to make it to 10. (Also had to switch a little back then because I had to focus on unlocking the last zombie variants) That is when I realized not switching would eventually lead to playing plants with 0 benefit other than waiting xx minutes to be placed on zombie team. (No coins, no challenges, nothing)

I speak for myself, not the kids/adults who see a big number and assume that means better team. Though give that highest score/level comment, I will wager that I'm not alone. (Think about it why do high level players switch, probebly because they capped plants ages ago.) If you want players like me to stop switching then make a mode like Garden Ops for zombies so that I can do challenges there. (Saving only multiplayer based ones for G&G) Or Pop Cap forbid, that challenges can not be done in Garden Ops, putting both teams on equal ground. (Some such as 50 browncoats in a session will need to be adjusted) Point being, not everyone is a money hungry player as you seem to think, besides ultimately it is pointless to switch for coins anyway. TV has a equal or better payout for both teams consistently. I have a thread on it, http://answers.ea.com/t5/Plants-Vs-Zombies-Garden-Warfare/Plants-make-too-much-money-when-they-lose-in-G-amp-G/m-p/2575014#U2575014

Do not remove the switch button, it is there for a reason. If you remove it then it will be forceably preventing me from doing challenges. (The main part of the game I'd like to point out)

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@xcrimsonlegendx wrote:

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@AWMaxSterling wrote:

If you want to get mad about something, get mad at the players who don't play the objective. I see scrubs stat padding in games. Nothing annoys me more than that.

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Can't tell you how many times "high level" plant players ignore their gardens and just rush the zombie spawns to camp. Then one lucky zombie gets though and caps the garden for himself because the a-hole plants are nowhere to be found.

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It's not just high level players. In G&G zombies have one goal, capture the objective. I say give zombies zero points/coins for kills and only reward them for time in capture points. I guarantee that we'll see a huge difference in the way games are played (except those trying to complete challenges) out.

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@AWMaxSterling wrote:

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@xcrimsonlegendx wrote:

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@AWMaxSterling wrote:

If you want to get mad about something, get mad at the players who don't play the objective. I see scrubs stat padding in games. Nothing annoys me more than that.

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Can't tell you how many times "high level" plant players ignore their gardens and just rush the zombie spawns to camp. Then one lucky zombie gets though and caps the garden for himself because the a-hole plants are nowhere to be found.

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It's not just high level players. In G&G zombies have one goal, capture the objective. I say give zombies zero points/coins for kills and only reward them for time in capture points. I guarantee that we'll see a huge difference in the way games are played (except those trying to complete challenges) out.

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The same could be said for plants. I can't count how many times I just waltz into the objective, looked around and asked "Nothing? Anybody? Is everybody really letting this happen?" Don't know where they even are, 0 on point, maybe 2-3 around the point. It's like it's taboo to be actually on the point, or at least near. Perhaps the kill streak bonus is too much, which is why everyone thinks, get big streak make big points.

As a zombie your goal is to take every point as fast as possible, faster you capture more CPM you make. As a plant your goal is to shut down teleporters the moment they get up, kill engineers on site, stand in the point while defending, plant potted plants, and vanquish zombies. You often have 10-12 people to do this and I promise being down two players is not the deciding factor. (For either team)

It's gotten to the point that if I see you with a high score, you're automatically getting blocked and it's going against your reputation. If you can't play objective games for the objective, then you don't belong in the game with me... and the challenges do nothing to help that out.

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@AWMaxSterling wrote:

It's gotten to the point that if I see you with a high score, you're automatically getting blocked and it's going against your reputation. If you can't play objective games for the objective, then you don't belong in the game with me... and the challenges do nothing to help that out.

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That is unfair to players and you know it. You assume everyone is the same with the same motives, which is 100% not true. The game was built with challenges, and I agree they cause problems. I made a thread on that as well, http://answers.ea.com/t5/Plants-Vs-Zombies-Garden-Warfare/What-is-the-purpose-of-Challenges-and-Skip-Stars/m-p/2547404#U2547404. However, that is an issue that needs to be taken up with Pop Cap. Punishing players for playing the game as it was made, or not playing as you deam they should is absolutely unreasonable.