Just when the game seems like it's heading in the right direction we have all the zombie scrubs crying about plants being OP.
You zombie scrubs need to learn how to play the game. Zombies still need knocking down a few more pegs and Chomper and Cactus still need a few more buffs.
Any unbiased players still use these forums? All I see is zombie scrubs crying everywhere...seems like Imps Mech isn't good enough for them anymore. Man they really must suck at this game.
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
Just when the game seems like it's heading in the right direction we have all the zombie scrubs crying about plants being OP.
You zombie scrubs need to learn how to play the game. Zombies still need knocking down a few more pegs and Chomper and Cactus still need a few more buffs.
Any unbiased players still use these forums? All I see is zombie scrubs crying everywhere...seems like Imps Mech isn't good enough for them anymore. Man they really must suck at this game.
Don't pretend as if everyone is either on the zombie or the plant side. I am by all means neutral, and I can confirm that no zombie is currently overpowered and that Citron is absolutely silly.
@Killerboy2807 without overheat and damage/ice upgrades isn't that silly. They just need to revert those on default/ice
Pylon, Lil Drake and Tennis star are still there
I like to play zombies and plants, no favorites and i think default Citron and Ice Citron are too strong. Especially ice because he freezes real fast and you're dead in seconds.
People ask for nerf/buff but nobody say if it's with or whithout upgrades. A lot of characters sucks so much without upgrades and become a beast with !
So because of the overheat upgrades, these 2 Citron are now a bit too strong.
And as usual if there was only one, no problem but there is 5 Citron in a team....
Otherwise not much too say on other characters, i'm satisfied
It is relatively easy to see when a player can play, and has experience.
I agree, maybe them two variants can hold their own in most situations but you can't deny that many zombies can do the same. Personally the only time I struggled to kill an Ice Citron is when I was on a bad team and there were 3-4 plant players gunning me down before I could warp next to him and pop him. Every time I got close he would ball up and roll off...
To me, the ball is more of an issue than his damage - the ability to get to places just like Superhero. Now that plants have an equal sort of character that can beam from almost anywhere on the map people are calling OP?
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Just one point to add, maybe they're stronger with players who use mouse and keyboard but on console they're not all that good, especially when playing someone who knows what they're doing.
Citron
- Stun
- Shield
- High Health
- High Damage Beam
- Super Speed
This class has a lot to bring to the table, but if you nerf this class back to what he was before then he's just a giant ball of fail who is just a rolling target. He will just be like he was before, a free kill for most players.
On pc the situation is the same as before.
Citron was already overused and overpowered in every game-modes
3 on 8 people were always been citron, and honestly... i think he didn't bothered me that much... as.. i was already used to deal with him.
I was already used to use default citron Mastered before this patch.. now just to not feel guilty of myself.. i'm just running him without overheat and damage upgrades.. only hp upgrades for trolling. and he's mostly the same as he was.
Still, i think some small fixes on ice/default. To be specific, ice variant need just a nerf on freeze rate, and default the splash damage revert.
Before the overheat buff.. frozen was unable to get many kills.. mostly assists. And default with his +1 splash damage seems to be more efficient than a cactus at long range..and this could be a problem.
(not a real problem if they continue keep cactus in this state)
And a buff on Toxic Citron.. his toxic area is not so incredible bigger than default splash area that.. is low damage is not worth the pick. The area should be a little bt bigger to be a good crowd controller
For the most, no need to revert anything else. Everything else is just fine.
For the most.. he is just overused, not overpowered.
Still because 3/7 on plant classes are in a strange spot (roses, cactuses, chompers) and one.. even after three consecutive buffs post-beta is still doing poorly (Kernel Corn) based on their data.
@Zaheen1337 wrote:
This class has a lot to bring to the table, but if you nerf this class back to what he was before then he's just a giant ball of fail who is just a rolling target. He will just be like he was before, a free kill for most players.
Not only citron wasn't that bad before the buff,but we're aren't even asking for full revert of the change, the ball buff were nice for him,and so that the head hitbox redution,the problem is that again, Basic and ice gun just shoot for too long before overheating with his upgrade and they didn't needed the damage buff neither.
@xFrozenChromex wrote:
On pc the situation is the same as before.
Citron was already overused and overpowered in every game-modes
Huhhh,wat,last patch Citron was far from being OP, as for being overused...Well he wasn't that rare then say,a rose or a cactus. But he didn't seemed the most common neither.
@Boolerex He was if you would at least put more than a couple of hours to learn it.
His kit has everything, and even if doesn't excel at nothing.. he is good at everything and extremely versatile. To do good with him before this buff you had to exploit everything of his kit.
Little examples: forcing SB to TT and empeach in that istant.. using abilities when overheating cause the delay... using the ball to juke people, bait them to an ambush and let your team kill them, using the spin dash to remove pirate barrel blast, learn to use the spin dash in a specific middle-air position when you can't be hit and so on.
Even after this incredible buffs is incredible the amount of newbies that play him just by shooting when he is possibly the character with the best skill set and highest skill-ceiling in the game.
Even in this op state, people that perform bad with him are a lots tbh. I have seen only a couple of persons maximize his true full potential.
