6 years ago
Xbox: Rampant cheating
1: Is there another, or more effective, method of reporting cheaters than to look up their gamercard from the player list, and reporting them to XBL? 2: Why are we seeing a clear increase in cheatin...
@spIash_damage so I didn't mention anything about hit detection, over the top animations causing lag and abilities not working. I know those exist, and I'm certainly not denying it. My whole reply was strictly about auto fire controllers, nothing else. As far as auto fire is concerned (not scripted auto aim), merely mentioned th vast it's not a big advantage. The tone im getting from this forum is that it's a big deal to deal with, which it is not. Learn to jump and shoot, and this auto fire advantage that you guys are experienced becomes nil.
I'll also address some points you used as a result but that didn't even bring up.
Input delay - I play on a regular 43 inch 1080p flat screen that i had for years. Not a special 1ms gaming monitors.
Elite xbox controller - I bought a used one from offerup for 80 bucks which is 20 more than a new regular controller.
Ping - I have good internet, I have 20 ping. My xbox is connected wirelessly to the default modem they gave me. I live in California and I pay 50 bucks per month. This is the second lowest internet package they had. I know about lag and how it affects games. I use to play on 56k on CS back in the day when everyone else had DSL. I know how it correlates with hit detection, delay or deny abilities and how it can decrease the quality of play. I've played a few times in south America serves and I get about 140-200 ping. I played with a friend and someone who thought I was only good because im in my local servers and he was from south America. I won't tell you the results cuz you might think im yelling down from my throne
My throne - im really competitive, but I'm not rich, therefore I don't have all the professional stuff you think I have. I have a long history of playing competitive call of duty. I use to sign up to tournaments online with a few if my friends for money. I use to 1 on 1 any and all people who talked *. But I stopped playing cod, because I got married lol and couldn't just spend hours playing cod. My compromise was to stop playing videos as often and play something I can enjoy with my wife, Enter pvz. It's easy enough for her to play and we enjoy playing it together. If you seen any of my videos, my wife is usually playing with me. Anyways, having said all that, I won't deny that I have a certain confidence that can seem condescending. It's a coincidence that let's me believe I can win any 1on1. So I apologize if it has a negative tone.
Conclusion - the only reason I picked out RoF, as I see people site it in the context of using an auto fire device, and NOT attributed to lag, is because it's something that is relatively easy to overcome. RoF with using a modded auto fire device is a non problem in my opinion. I did NOT deny that the other technical problems exist, because they do and you don't have to show me on any videos or convince me otherwise. Don't worry, I too, with my God like internet experience these issues.
Lastly if anyone needs help with wanting to learn certain aspects of this game that I can teach, I'm more than willing to make a video in it. Or how to deal with certain characters or abilities, I'll bs on to make a video in that too. Obviously if I don't know then I won't volunteer but if I do, then I'll be willing.
@mikepal19 I’m a nice person and would love to chat on the mic.
I am typing on my phone again so sometimes I don’t type out everything.
You mentioning (the other day) about your Elite remote and good internet and that is why I brought it up today. I actually had plans to write an article and give you credit for opening my eyes. The way you broke things down the other day wasn’t rude so I was able to hear you from a new perspective regarding higher priced controllers.
I’ve since bought and returned a Nacon and Scuff but can see the benefit in some aspects of these new controllers. I’m currently waiting for a custom Beaver Battle controller to arrive. I’m not here to say don’t use it, if it’s available but my take is don’t use ALL the advantages you can and act like a) we don’t know what we’re saying/these issues aren’t occurring b) you’re better than everyone else when it’s not a level playing field.
These points of view I’m stating are my own and I don’t technically have a right to these opinions, in some people’s eyes and I’m aware of that. I’m not trying to be offensive and especially not hurt anyone’s feelings but I think the way you came across is that you’re better than everyone else and we don’t know what we’re talking about; why not just buy a $250 controller and bunny hop like everyone else....... does that make sense (that I heard you that way)...? I know others did too and I don’t think you’re intentions were such. If so, I digress.
At the end of the day, I don’t blame you for having good internet and it’s not my fault we can’t buy it here. I DREAM of pinging less than 40 on any server and have NEVER experienced that zero ping feeling aside from LAN tournaments of past. Speaking of that, I come from a pretty thorough background of competitive shooters and was a big part of the Unreal Tournament series on console. That said, it’s all the more reason to NOT dismiss a fellow gamer, much less an entire forum, when we say lag inputs and high pings cause horrendous issues.
As for mods, I personally had no clue how bad it was but saw for myself today the reason I often die from certain characters. If I had uber internet, I could avoid dying when people start firing at me with mods/scripts and my connection delays me .25 to .5 seconds ... that’s enough time for someone to drain enough of my health (with rapid fire) that I can’t do anything to counter it or even retreat.
The throne comment was to save me typing out a million words to explain that you’re coming off condescending to many people (some of whom asked me to make a post) and I should’ve went ahead and typed out a more thorough reply. I tried to preface my post by letting you know about the forum deleting my initial reply but you didn’t know it took me 15 - 20 minutes to compose said wasted reply.
Happy to continue this in private or on a mic, if you’d like? Super happy nice people here!
EDIT: ongoing phone revenge. 😡
@spIash_damageyeah we can have s conversation on mic.. but im currently out if the country, and Corona won't let me back in until next month ☹️
I didn't pay 250 for the controller, I waited months until I found someone to sell it to me for 80 bucks. And before I had an elite controller I remapped my regular controller do that my jump was LB (or RB I forgot) in console. And then also then I used a controller setting on cod where the jump was R3 (push in the right stick). So, an elite controller is not necessary to jump and shoot. You just have to get use to remapping your controller.
Again im not dismissing all of the other issues as all your (afew of you guys) replies seem to indicate. My only arguement is countering an illegal move (auto fire device) with a legal one (learn to jump and shoot via remapping your REGULAR controller IN CONSOLE).
Btw my other long response took a while too lol im typing on a phone so there's a lot of errors.
And let me also add that im not taking any of what you guys say offensively. Nothing personal, these are just my opinion
Edit: as far as your ping.. yeah ping matters, they see you before you see them so you can't really react of they get you in perfect positioning. But again this goes beyond what I was arguing
@mikepal19 You’re nice and sarcastic at the same time... “all of us few” (or whatever you said)... you’re new here, buddy, not me. Just because you only read 1-3 people speaking on a certain issue doesn’t mean there’s not DOZENS of us talking about these issues and sometimes, 5-10 of us meet in-game and play together. In BfN, these gatherings are non-existent compared to GW2 (I haven’t played in a real group since Picnic).... but, yeah, man... there’s more of us than you know that feel this way and often times (not lately since I haven’t posted much), people PM me here on the forum or in-game and ASK ME to come speak on their behalf.
I’m not trying to bully anyone’s point of view but rather speak on behalf of friends or as a collective voice for many of us that’ve spoken on these topics COUNTLESS times.
I understand many of these conversations aren’t visible and can’t blame you for not understanding that “we” = more than 2-4 people but I wouldn’t passive aggressively insinuate you were exaggerating, either.
I say a mic would be best so these little grammatical inflections could be more clearly expressed and so you might understand I’m a nice guy; it’ll save a TON of time.
Otherwise, I’ll be on my factory controller (with no back buttons) and my $200 tv HAVING fun. 😂👍
I still wonder what your K/D is so I’ll know how to take your comment from the other day. 🤷🏼♂️ You’re a hard one to figure out online.