It seems that EA seems to have forgotten about the plants when it comes to mp. I watch as the Zombies are faster and stronger than the plants and kick them around like rag dolls it gets very tiring when you are constantly picking yourself up off the ground after after being knocked around for the umpteenth time. Hey EA how about leveling out the playing field.

While a lot of people will argue the point forever both the Plant and Zombie teams are decently balanced in terms of the overall pool of advantages and disadvantages available to each. It's my personal belief that most people gain a belief that one teams is "weaker" or "stronger" not so much because of the classes involved but because of the individual skill and experience levels of the players on each team, how well those players can use their selected characters and the individual 1v1 match-ups they find themselves in. Some classes are easily approachable by all ages and skill levels, like BBQ Corn for example while others have a high skill requirement, like Captain Squawk and there is also the factor that some characters work well overall while others work best in a particular niche and even within the same character class the variants can have a range of usefulness and ease of use; you can bring Bandit Cactus into a close range fight but you're crazy to try doing the same with the Camo Cactus. Given that my person feeling is that the teams are balanced overall there are skill some 1v1 tactics which are clearly lopsided in favor of one character or the other; you don't stand toe-to-toe with a Torchwood with your basic Foot Soldier because you'll lose but triggering your ZPG behind cover and then stepping out during the firing animation to fire it at the same Torchwood at point blank range will give victory to the Foot Soldier. Tactics matter and using the wrong tactics can give you the impression that one team or character is more powerful than your own. In the above scenario the Foot Soldier who keeps getting mowed down will complain about the Torchwood having too much Health or too much damage and call for Nerfs but the Torchwood getting repeatedly shot in the fact with ZPGs at close or point blank range will howl about how the ZPG is overpowered and needs a Nerf. I've been both the Torchwood mowing down the Zombies as well as the Foot Soldier killing the Torchwood over and over to the point of being cursed at in the lobby so I know that how you use your character has a huge impact on your success in the game. If you read through the forums you'll find plenty of Zombie players complaining about how much more powerful the Plants are and the same number of Plants players complaining that they simply can't win against the superior Zombies. It's less about what team you are on and more about how well you can use your character and what tactics you use with that character in the actual game.

I often get that feeling too that the Zombies are abit more powerful. I have a feeling that they have more characters with faster shots then the plants.Like the Rose and the Peashooter. Their shots travel really slow. And also the Scientists compared to the Sunflower is alot more powerful and can kill someone easily. THe Imp needs a look at. He is way to small and the thing he does when he freeze ppl are way better than the Rose. It also lifts ppl up in the air and makes them an easy target to hit and him really hard to hit instead. Also they have the mechs that are rally powerful. But I would never play as a Zombie even though I have that feeling. I had a few tries to test them out, but no, they all feel really boring to me.

I couldn't agree with you more. I have played against teams where they are all Imps and when they turn into robots and and they are defending an area all you can do is wash rinse and repeat. I also wouldn't play a Zombie because there isn't a challenge in killing something that you can take out with one or two shots. I think it much more of a challenge when you take them out.

If you two really think that then you must not check the fourms often to see how much people usually complain about the plants being OP.Regardless the balance is pretty fair to me and i don't see any major issues with either sides. All i can tell you is practice more with the plants because they are far from being underpowered and learn how to handle/counter zombies with the characters you use

So, what kind of vanguish numbers do you get when playing zombies in multiplayer, if they're so ridiculously easy?

Zombies have more innovative toys and are much stronger than the plants

13 Replies

Berit
9 years ago
I often get that feeling too that the Zombies are abit more powerful. I have a feeling that they have more characters with faster shots then the plants.
Like the Rose and the Peashooter. Their shots travel really slow. And also the Scientists compared to the Sunflower is alot more powerful and can kill someone easily.

THe Imp needs a look at. He is way to small and the thing he does when he freeze ppl are way better than the Rose. It also lifts ppl up in the air and makes them an easy target to hit and him really hard to hit instead. Also they have the mechs that are rally powerful.

But I would never play as a Zombie even though I have that feeling. I had a few tries to test them out, but no, they all feel really boring to me.
Anonymous
9 years ago
I couldn't agree with you more. I have played against teams where they are all Imps and when they turn into robots and and they are defending an area all you can do is wash rinse and repeat. I also wouldn't play a Zombie because there isn't a challenge in killing something that you can take out with one or two shots. I think it much more of a challenge when you take them out.
superxmario128
9 years ago
If you two really think that then you must not check the fourms often to see how much people usually complain about the plants being OP.
Regardless the balance is pretty fair to me and i don't see any major issues with either sides. All i can tell you is practice more with the plants because they are far from being underpowered and learn how to handle/counter zombies with the characters you use
pandareno1999
Hero+
9 years ago
So, what kind of vanguish numbers do you get when playing zombies in multiplayer, if they're so ridiculously easy?
Berit
9 years ago
I have read and heard that some Plants has been nerfed. But so far I havnt heard any Zombies being nerfed.
pandareno1999
Hero+
9 years ago
I don't have all day to google, but I pulled up one set of patch notes for you. Scroll down to the bottom to see details of buffs and nerfs which include many plant buffs and many zombie nerfs. Every update comes with buffs and nerfs for all classes.

http://www.pvzgw2.com/news/trouble-in-zombopolis

Seriously, if you guys think the zombies are so overpowered, go play some multiplayer as zombies and then come post your K/D ratios or vanguish numbers.
dwooten77
9 years ago
Welcome to buff/nerf conversations on this (or any) forum. Learn the maps inside and out. Never decide on a character before you see what map it is. Adjust your zoom and aim speeds in options. I thought the same thing when I first started GW1. Eventually you will been in hopes to find people in a game that challenge you. There's no shame in doing private games on hard or crazy to help speed you up.
pandareno1999
Hero+
9 years ago
I should have mentioned that I, too, felt that way at one time. I played for several months before I willingly played zombies, getting soundly trashed in multiplayer. It really wasn't until right before the Spooky Squash boss hunt that I took them seriously. I've still got far more plant variants than zombies mastered.

You get better, you stop getting wrecked so often, just keep at it.
NinjaMcNuggets
9 years ago
Plants have corn which was obviously designed so that 4-year-olds could get some kills too. 😛
Anonymous
9 years ago
The Imps have a mec and can spin very fast and there are very few of the Zombies that don't move very fast or jump high. The plants are like snails and the weapons don't even compare to the Zombies weapons. I can tell you that I'm no four year old.