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Opal_MCNW's avatar
4 years ago

EA, you haven't fixed your bugged cheat detecting algorithm for over 2 years now

Since 2019 it's for the second time I deal with EA wrongly accusing a member of my club. First time they brought back my member after a month. Never even said sorry. This time they sent to the cheat island a 70ish timid Canadian with computer skills of a 4 years old child. I patiently waited until they finish their so called investigations. A month.
After a month I wrote to them and I've got a bot gibberish like that:


"Prakhar (SimCity BuildIt

Mar 10, 2022, 11:15 GMT+2

Hello Mayor,
Thanks for writing us!
Being a fellow player, I do realize your concern and enthusiasm. However, the city details of the club member has already been sent over to the concerned team as told by my colleague.
Please be assured, your club member will be assisted in best way possible over his help ticket only. So, if you need to send any details/scorecard etc. then please forward it to that particular member so the same can be shared with the team through him. 
I am also afraid to inform, but it is not possible for us to intervene in cases regarding other players account. We're happy to answer all kinds of Sim-City-Building-It questions regarding your own city/account.
I hope this makes things clearer!

Please feel free to contact us again if you need further assistance in-game. Thanks!"

So basically they're happy to inform me that doing nothing for a month is being "assisted in best way possible". Also they advise me to not interfere.

Did you have such case? What would you advise me to do?"

You see, it's a horror. An old honest guy, who loved and played all versions of Simcity since the era of dinosaurs suddenly faces accusations of being a cheat. In inhuman robotic manner.
He tries to discuss, he gets another bot answer. Then nothing for a month.

18 Replies

  • debfer's avatar
    debfer
    3 years ago

    Wow!  I am sorry for your loss! I have no answers. Mistakes can be made on both sides I suppose.  What do you think is the answer?

    From what I have heard, and info I have dug up, EA is  making an effort to rid the game of unscrupulous behavior. This us a good thing, and shows effort in their part. 

    Were you on a team that SOMEONE on your team was involved in cheating? The team's we have encountered are flagrant about it. Example:  Being a fairly young team, having no cards to speak of, or very low level cards, and not many of those. They are heavy on Mags and maybe MMs or Mellow Bello’s. Then they have all the resources to to play those two cards 100 to 400 times. Usually the whole team appears to be involved. 24 or 25 players, level 22 to 45,  with cities just thrown together, JP's, and Shield busters galore. They are fast and vicious. From the more than the few cheating teams we have played, our team’s cooperation and dedication to each other is useless. Playing games like this is no fun. If you Google “Sim City Cheats”, you will find a list of codes that I THINK are developer codes originally used by EA in development. Dusgruntled employees hacks?  I don't know the answers. It is incomprehensible for me to understand what kind of fun cheating is,

    Do you suppose someone on your team was a cheater, and you were unaware?  

    What happened to you exactly?

    I understand the form letters. When we report a team we get a form letter back explaining they play too, and the cheaters will be investigated. Please be patient. Then the email goes on to say due to privacy considerations, no conclusions can be released. 

    This leaves us in a conundrum. Hearing another side of this story is definitely “food for thought “  I am guessing to have a thoughtful cooperative voice in the forums will be good for all. EA, teams who have been accused of cheating, and teams that are fed up with and report cheaters. 

    Please let's continue this conversation. It may prove beneficial to all. 

  • The answer would be have EA customer support have knowledge about the game, know about the bugs in their anti cheat mechanism and be up to date with the updates and features. And actually review your account and give you clear answers on why you were banished. 

    From what I’ve gathered dealing with tickets is. The other side doesn't actually have knowledge about the game. They are just there to copy paste and reply to new entries. I have sent screenshots and talking about the specific additions to the game that may have triggered the anti cheat . But it just gets ignored completely and I receive the same response everyone else gets. 

    No one in my club is cheating, we’re a group of friendly members, active and everyone is always willing to help. Our focus is more about CoM then it is war. My account is within the lowest lvl members sitting at lvl37, my inventory was at only 200. Maybe have won 3 or 4 mega first places in 2 years. And my only regional city is in disarray since I don’t have the resources to keep the population happy.  My war cards are weak and average 7-10k points per war if I push for it. I must be the worst cheater gaming has ever seen! 

    Anyway this is what I suspect. Recently the game without warning added CoM points on City Journal Assignments, those clip board bubbles that show up in your city. After completing and discovering this feature, I completed 3 more which gave me enough points to snag first place. As soon as the contest ended I was banished. 

    I’ve sent this information to customer support, since it’s the only thing I can think of that would have flagged me. But as I’ve mentioned before. It’s ignored and I get the same reply . “i MAY have broken a rule in Section 6” and if I push for more details they reply with your city was modified and can’t be returned to its normal status. If this was the reason  it would be very easy to see if they actually reviewed my account.

    Now I’m stranded on cheaters island patiently waiting to see if I get any real answers and help before I delete the game completely. 

  • debfer's avatar
    debfer
    3 years ago

    This was a thoughtful account of what happened to you. Was it just you who was kicked to the curb? Or your whole team?  I'm sorry, I hope EA hears you. I would be beyond frustrated to lose my city and my team. Quitting would leave a whole in my life!  Keep writing. Keep explaining. Maybe EA will listen. I hope so. 

    My whole team (24 of us) are now on a campaign to help EA rid itself of cheaters. We do know what to look for, and only once have we accused a whole team. I believe the cheaters are a few per team, but of course that can vary. Do you still have your city? Is your team still there?

    I hope for a swift resolution for you. 

  • I was the only one kicked . My club is still in tact. My city wasn’t effected in any way. Only put on cheaters server. I’ve opened 4 tickets already only 2 have responded with the generic responses I  mentioned in my earlier post. I’ve given up on tickets. I was a honest paying customer, I should not have to be going out of my way to prove my innocence when it should be an easy fix. If I ever do get a follow up email I’ll see where I go from there. But as for now I’ll leave it sit for a while before I  delete it. 

    I have no issue with people reporting suspected cheaters. As long as EA does real reviews and ban actual cheaters. And not have people fall victims just because someone was salty about losing to them. All reports should be welcomed. But proper handling of these reports needs to be a must in any game. Especially if you’re charging customers  real money to help with their progress 

    very disappointed in EA SCBI customer service. The community is great tho. Thanks for your messages and support. 

  • debfer's avatar
    debfer
    3 years ago

    How long sgobdid this happen to you. I heard cheated hail for first offense is about a month. 

  • @Opal_MCNWThere are some situations where things are questionable and asking EA to investigate is a perfectly reasonable thing to do but with no explanation of what or how EA's decision is concluded leaves the questioner just as confused and frustrated as before.
    For example: In this current COM the top player scored 272,140 points  (no double plumbobs). I've heard players can score extra points by completing Journal quests. I have no idea if this is true as I've completed them all already and there was no announcement of this happening. Otherwise somehow this player managed to score an avg of 2988 per assignment using tickets.

  • debfer's avatar
    debfer
    3 years ago

    I believe everyone in ANY position of power over ANY PERSON, team or entity should be honor-bound to be honest and forthcoming with answers whenever there are questions. 

    It is simple EA. Tell us the truth. Whitewashing difficult situations inky causes more suspicions and does nothing to ease anyone mind that corrections are being made. 

    NOTE TO EA:  

    1) Admit cheating is a problem that is out of control

    2) Ask for players advise 

    3) Communicste with individuals and whole teams. Post to the boards. 

    4) Have your leaders (champions, etc) be informed. Let them communicate with both the people in “jail”, and the people who have reported the problem. 

    5) BE OPEN AND HONEST!  Secrets and lack of transparency are making an exasperating problem worse. You CAN do better!  As a team leader for more than ten years, I except for you to do better. Please try harder. Didn't just try to hide it. Explain it. We love  the game. We want it to be better. We are willing to help you be better. Give us a chance too!  Please

  • So I finally got a response back after 5 days from the “experts”

     Thank you for waiting.
     
    I would like to say that expert found you were cheating so he denied to restore the city to regular server.
     
    I hope you will understand.
     
    Have a nice day!

    So that’s that. I guess I cheated some how. Maybe the city journals points is a glitch which I exploited.  
     Maybe #2 in my league reported me for snagging his #1 spot. And as I’ve said before  Maybe Nobody actually reviews your account. Good job EA! At least he was nice enough to tell me to have a nice day.

    I don’t recommend anyone play this game competitively. Don’t push for #1 spots, don’t push for war wins. And def don’t give them your money. At any given moment you could be banned from the regular server . For no real reasons, no explanations, no answers and no customer support.