Current state of Heroes v Villains

@o_JA50N_o 

Looking at the clip you linked it appears that some of what's going on here is the handicap. 

Look at this clip I made just tonight. In it you can see that Rey is completely within the AOE of Freeze and is NOT blocking yet the game ignored the ability completely. After letting myself get killed to see what level the Rey was, turns out she was a 19. 

https://youtu.be/sLzwwWQyysQ

@VetteC5RX who knows what's causing these issues. I haven't heard anyone say what you're saying and in my opinion I just think the game is so buggy (H v V) with abilities not registering a lot that your theory looks possible but I doubt they would handicap higher ranked players or everyone would just make low rank accounts or even stop playing the game. Too be honest If this next update doesn't resolve a few issues that have been ruining H v V I'll stop playing this game anyway

@VetteC5RX I forgot to mention also that your theory there's no way of telling if it's true because there's a bug where u can't even tell who a low level is with the stats being messed up. Look at my screenshot. The grievous has a low level then later in the match the same guy with grievous is a high level. I've noticed since the last update all the stats are messed up so sometimes it might look like a low level has killed u when they're not a low level

@o_JA50N_o  The reason I came to the handicap conclusion is because I’ve spend hours specifically dictated to testing the theory to try and determine if a pattern or consistency is present ... and there is.

if you don’t do that it’s going to be much harder to consider what the issue is beyond just a “bug”.

Actual bugs fall into two categories no matter what; those categories are:

1.) completely random 

2.) specifically generated 

Specifically generated bugs are things like map glitches or a bug that causes an error with a specific action that’s repeatable. Random bugs are ones who’s problem occurs at random and cannot be repeated 100% of the time by doing the same thing. 

Taking my Kylo who is level 260 and comparing it to my friend who’s is level 9; if I am observing consistent instances where my abilities are being ignored and his are not that’s not concrete but it’s a start. It indicates that the issue isn’t a bug because BOTH of us should experience the problem to SOME extent but we’re not.

from there you keep making observations, both with random players as well as with other friends. 

The consistent pattern is those who experience “issues” are higher level. 

Keep in mind this is SEPARATE from actual bugs which we know ARE in the game. 

my testing was SPECIFIC to in game mechanics attributes such as, observing my dodge / evade ability compared to a lower level with the same character; something like that is not a bug, that’s the programming. 

I am also seeing bugs and that’s not what I’ve been tracking. 

so, yes, there are still plenty of bugs in the game but that’s unrelated to the specific items I’ve been testing for and those tests DO indicate that a handicap has been applied. That combined with the bugs makes the gameplay beyond bad. 

@VetteC5RX @Well if what you're saying is true then that's a disgrace and completely unfair. No way should any developer be allowed to handicap any loyal player that has a high rank due to their dedication. What about the people who have a high rank but are bad at the game? They get handicapped even more. The thing with your theory is no-one at DICE will admit this is true or there would be bedlam 

@o_JA50N_o  You’re absolutely right! I don’t expect that anyone at EA / DICE is going to admit what they did! 

This thread alone has a number of people who are specifically experiencing the same things and when you separate what is known to be a bug and directly compare mechanical game stats that’s when the pattern appears. 

By implementing the handicap to coincide with the movie release AND maintaining these triple XP & double XP weekends the result is that newer players joining the game are praising the title. 

in fact, just yesterday, on the actual official BF2 forums EA disclosed that they had some of the “highest customer feedback” periods and were promoting that on a quarterly webcast! ... gee, that’s a hell of a coincidence isn’t it?! 

it would seem that by hook or by crook EA got exactly what they wanted ... a sales spike and skewed community feedback. Anyone playing the game and experiencing poor gameplay (ie higher level players) are likely chalking their experiences up to “bugs”but truthfully; if you dig into it you find that many aspects aren’t bugs. 

I agree it’s a CRAP thing to do and it needs to be reversed! They may very well do that. If you troll these forums you’ll find entires where players were complaining about getting beat by higher level players. These were from newer players who aren’t familiar with the game. Rather than those players taking the time to get used to the game or use the single player methods to get used to it they have been complaining. 

The video clip I posted of Rey is just one of dozens of examples I see every game. There was no “bug” involved; Rey was highlighted white, indicating that the game mechanic identified her as an active target within Kylo’s AOE yet Freeze simply was ignored. If it was a singular occurrence that could be a bug but the point I’m trying to get everyone to see is that sort of thing is happening regularly every match.

Even though they'll never admit it I don’t need them to; I just want them to fix it so the more attention and activity these topics get the more EA will realize they need to address it. Hopefully with this next update that was just delayed it can be undone. 

Well if the next update doesn't fix at least half the issues I've been experiencing recently I will change game and stop playing this. No point in wasting any more time on a game that's completely unbalanced with game changing bugs and if what u say is true, that's another reason to call it a day on this game 

@o_JA50N_o  Absolutely 100% 

I have also had the game since launch and also play only heroes v villains and for me the most frustrating issue I get is someone will quit out right away and you end up playing the whole game a man down. Rarely does it add anyone now. I have even seen it start the game 4 v 3 a lot and not add anyone the whole game and worst yet, you are a man down almost the whole game and an enemy player quits out and right away it adds a player to them!!!! Even more frustrating is usually you are playing against a squad of 4 so you have no chance practically. If this isn't resolved after the next update I guess it's not a bug but just the population for the game is extremely low which in that case they need to make the game start 4 v 4 again so you're not a man down the whole game. 

@jc311277 Yeah that is a crap situation and I see it all the time too. People will leave and you’ll play a man down and you won’t get an additional player until it’s ultimately too late. ... I’ve been added into matches AS the ending cutscene is playing. 

my guess is that people quit out because they got tired of the POOR mechanics from a prior match or are constantly being placed in a match on the same “side” (i.e. light side 8 times in a row).

i try to stick with a lobby as much as possible. The issue is even WORSE in Hero Showdown. The matchmaking is SO poor there they might as well just scrap it (even though I prefer the game mode). 

I haven’t played nearly as much because the logic behind the mechanics is something out of a special needs telethon. ... No I don’t mean “bugs”, I mean the actual logic behind the mechanics. .... I haven’t seen a game this badly compiled since “Action 52” (if you’re not sure what that is Google it). ... At least “2k” can blame bugs; EA / Dice just have awful design logic and there’s no dancing around that.