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lukeobionechew's avatar
6 years ago

"Going Down The Rabbit Hole"

Hi,

EA/Dice have just closed off a topic that I believe is important for all players to read and to know more about.

Myself and others have observed, witnessed and have actual evidence that things aren't right within this game.

They haven't gave an actual explanation on what others have been observing, testing, reporting and providing evidence. 

The silence from EA on this topic said it all.

What worry's me is why they have closed off this topic. Could it be that word has spread to the owners of the company and they are worried about this leaking out, so they've demanded EA_Atic to comment and close this topic.

If the company were using unorthodox tactics within the game and the press/media got wind of this, the company would be liable in the order of the court and would probably be sued on a large scale.   

There is no way that the company would want to ever admit this, it would destroy and ruin their reputation.

What the company I believe is beginning to realise is, there are very intelligent players within this game,

Community, have your say...  

7 Replies

  • May I participate too? 🤔

    I don't know why that topic was closed.

    But the discussions in that topic were very complex.

    I have no idea about the player level handicap.

    No offence, I never feel like that.

    First of all, what is the player level did he mean?

    Player level? or Character level? That was not clear.

    And "The evidence" which was shown there, was very weak in my opinion.

    As you know, some force abilities are very unreliable.

    He tried to say "that is caused by the level handicap". Really?

    If he wanted to show the level handicap, at least, he needed to hire 2 people.

    (Of course, high and low level players.)

    And he needed to cast the same ability and tried to explain the difference.

    It is just my suggestion.

    I hope please don't take it too serious.

    May the Force be with you.

  • Hi,

    @Sati_Sati 

    Of course you may participate... 

    Please read the topic "too many quitters for heroes vs villains," on page 2 of game information to understand more about this discussion. 

    Players have just about had enough of this game and all of its problems, issues, bugs, glitches, ability's being ignored, slow loading times, matchmaking issues, balancing issues and so on... 

    I played a game once and I noticed on the other team that everyone was running faster and dodging quicker than everyone else, can you explain this? I have observed things within the game where I just cannot explain and don't make any sense.    

    There is a lot of unfairness in this game and should we remain silent regarding this? If everyone remained silent, nothing would ever change.

    I've tried to help them with this, but they don't listen and things keep remaining unchanged.

    This game has become unplayable and I find myself not wanting to play this game as much.

    It's such a shame because I Love the music soundtracks, the environmental map designs, the versatility of characters, the hero and villain voice automation throughout the game.

    All the best    

  • @Sati_Sati  I’m speaking of character and class level not player level.

    The EA community manager closed a thread saying only he “could confirm no handicap” yet chose to give NO reason for the issues many of us have been experiencing since TROS update. 

    These issues are consistent and weren’t occurring prior to that update. EA can play with verbiage all they want but something is broken and they’re not saying anything about it which makes their credibility and honesty suspect! 

    we’re supposed to chalk it up to coincidence that all of us experiencing the same things are seeing them with out higher level characters?!? 

    video doesn’t lie and here are the most recent two examples I have submitted. I’ve posted these on multiple threads here in the answers forums to try and get a response but EA has said nothing. 

    freeze was ignored 

    https://youtu.be/sLzwwWQyysQ

    pull was ignored 

    https://youtu.be/cwvZ7g2XOd8

  • @Sati_Sati 

    @lukeobionechew 

    my personal philosophy on this ... and this is only a theory; I could never “prove” this but it fits ..

    If you troll through the Answers forums you’ll find threads where new players to the game complain about getting steam rolled by higher level players. .... well, obviously, they know how to play the game!

    rather than simply adding in game modes to help ease new players into the game (which they did, so credit due) newer players weren’t using them and overall gameplay feedback and rating was dismal.

    in comes the new TROS movie and ES knew there would be an update to the game and a great opportunity to draw player into the game or back to it ... now here’s where it gets interesting.

    if you also troll the Answers forums you’ll see plenty of threads complaining about matchmaking! And they’re 100% correct! 

    you see EA fouled up and not only created a player level but separate character levels. This ultimately ended up meaning that proper matchmaking was incredibly difficult because what measure do they use to

    put players of somewhat equal caliber together? A vast majority of players will have strength and weakness characters based on their play style. I, for example, don’t use Lando or Palestine as their logic don’t correspond to how I typically play the game. 

    all of this meant that EA needed a way to “balance”

    out the players and do something about the matchmaking ... well what could they do???? ... well they “could” implement a progressively eroding buff on individual character and class levels. In this way players using lower class characters wouldn’t be as susceptible to getting steam rolled, however, I think they went too far. 

    the last piece that ties this whole theory together is that last month EA announced on the official BF forums that the overall game environment satisfaction among players is “higher than its ever been”. ..... ummm ... according to whom?!? Who was surveyed?!? Because there’s LOTs of ongoing issues and problems on the Answers forums that haven’t been addressed and those players sure aren’t happy. ...... now IF (and I can’t stress the IF enough) ... IF EA did implement a progressively reducing buff and newer players reaped the benefits I guess THEY would be happy, huh? 

    again this is all theory based on what I’ve seen from the game itself, from EA, and from the player mix of the game now (anyone else notice just how many MORE newer players are in the game now versus veteran players???).

    If this were true EA would never admit it; but I ask you all; do you have any other rationale that would explain everything that a lot of us are seeing in the game?!? Because I don’t. .... if EA would like to give us one I’m all ears. 

  • EA_Atic's avatar
    EA_Atic
    Icon for DICE Team rankDICE Team
    6 years ago
    Hello there again, 
     
    Opening another topic about the topic I just closed not cool and not okay on the forum. 
     
    For the videos that @VetteC5RX have highlighted, I have sent on the team to get investigated to see what is going on there. 
     
    Like I said in the other topic there is no handicap in Star Wars: Battlefront 2 in any form for new or old players. 
     
    If you see inconsistency with hero abilities or any inconsistency in the game make a topic about that issue and please add a video showing us what is going on, also tag me in the topic. 
     
    Regarding this topic, I will be closing it as its conversation about the topic I just closed. 
     
    Edit: Merging new post talking about the above topic in here. 
     
    /Atic 
     
  • @EA_Atic 

    This is directed toward you! 

    Another thread was opened because you or your colleagues FAILED to communicate with the community. 

    you never disclosed that you sent my videos to be investigated; you never acknowledged any of our issues EVEN AFTER multiple people posted about having the same issue.

    The conclusion I drew was what would any objective game tester would come to with testing and given that EA’s “upfront-ness” and credibly are poor when it comes to their customers.

    Many of us have dedicated a lot of time into this title and have supported it regardless of any mis steps that had been taken so when the Community managers are mute about issues that many are having expect that the people are going to post threads. 

    now we’re going to be waiting here until someone tells us why this is occurring and / or when it’s going to be fixed! 

  • Hi,

    @EA_Atic

    Now that we have your full attention...

    Thank-you for finally addressing and investigating our issues. There is plenty to discuss about issues in this game, so I will of course, like I have been doing, continue to post topics for a fairer and playable game for all players.  

    I have a question: Is there a low level player buff?

    All the best

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