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Starwarsnerd900's avatar
7 years ago

Inconsistent blaster cooling times

Product: Star Wars Battlefront II
Platform:PC
What is your issue related to? General
Summarize your bug In this bug some guns have correct cooling times given by the card others dont.
What is your gamertag/PSN ID/EA Account name?
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
Can you tell us the date (MM/DD/YYYY) that you saw the bug? I dont know when I saw the diffrences first time
What time did you see the bug? (HH:MM AM/PM) I dont know when I saw the diffrences first time
In what game mode did the bug occur? Arcade Mode
What is your time zone?
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Go to Arcade mode and choose any gun and select Expert Weapon's Handling starcard and look does it give correct cooling time what is said in the starcard
What happens when the bug occurs? When the bug occurs the starcard doesnt give the gun in use correct cooling time
What do you expect to see? I expect to get correct cooling time for the gun in use if I use Expert Weapon's Handling starcard For example El-16HFE correctly gives correct super success cooling time of 10,02s when CR-2 gives you 6,53s when it is suppose to give you 10s cooling time.
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AMD or Nvidia Model Number

I am not adding here every single video.

Look the proof from the channel given below and fix the cooling times so every gun using Expert Weapon's Handling starcard

gets correct super success cooling time what the card is suppose to give.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeejZ6EPwrUlGCda7l6tVag/videos?view_as=subscriber

Assault  Yellow zone
    
F-11D with                   starcard6,03s
F-11D without   starcard6,36s
    
EL-16 with starcard10,02s
EL-16 without starcard6,03s
    
E-11 with  starcard10,20s
E-11 without starcard6,23s
    
A280C with  starcard10,27s
A280C without starcard6,03s
    
E-5 with starcard10,27s
E-5 without starcard6,22s
    
DC-15A with starcard10,36s
DC-15A without starcard6,34s
    
A280 Improved Cooling with starcard5,96s
A280 Improved Cooling without starcard6,42s
    
CR-2 with  starcard6,53s
CR-2 without starcard6,15s
    
EL-16HFE with  starcard10,01s
EL-16HFE without  starcard6,23s
    
Heavy   
    
FWMB-10 with  starcard10,34s
FWMB-10 without  starcard6,88s
    
M-45 with  starcard10,03s
M-45 without  starcard6,55s
    
DLT-19 with  starcard10,35s
DLT-19 without starcard6,30s
    
RT-97C with  starcard10,42s
RT-97C without starcard6,35s
    
E-5C with starcard10,26s
E-5C without starcard6,56s
    
DC-15 with starcard10,17s
DC-15 without starcard6,43s
    
DC-15LE with  starcard10,27s
DC-15LE without starcard6,03s
    
FWMB-10K Auto Cooling with     starcard7,13s
FWMB-10K Auto Cooling without   starcard6,29s
    
TL-50 Improved Cooling with      starcard5,90s
TL-50 Improved Cooling without   starcard6,10s
    
Officer   
    
SE-44 with  starcard9,94s
SE-44 without starcard6,23s
    
GLIE-44 with  starcard9,96s
GLIE-44 without  starcard6,09s
    
RK-3 with  starcard6,28s
RK-3 without starcard6,21s
    
DH-17 with starcard6,49s
DH-17 without starcard6,36s
    
RG-4D with starcard10,22s
RG-4D without starcard6,43s
    
DC-17 with starcard10,10s
DC-17 without starcard6,21s
    
S-5 with  starcard10,23s
S-5 without  starcard6,42s
    
BLURRG-1120 with starcard7,34s
BLURRG-1120 without starcard6,29s
    
SE-44C Improved Cooling with     starcard10,41s
SE-44C Improved Cooling without  starcard6,41s
    
Specialist   
    
DLT-19D with  starcard10,09s
DLT-19D without starcard6,22s
    
A180    with  starcard10,31s
A180 without starcard6,36s
    
DLT-19X with starcard5,83s
DLT-19X without starcard6,09s
    
DLT-20A with starcard10,15s
DLT-20A without starcard6,15s
    
E-5S with starcard7,23s
E-5S without starcard6,16s
    
VALKEN-38X with starcard6,06s
VALKEN-38X without starcard6,17s
    
IQA-11 Improved Cooling with    starcard10,35s
IQA-11 Improved Cooling without starcard6,19s
    
A280-CFE with  starcard10,27s
A280-CFE without starcard6,23s

The only guns who have correct cooling times are

1) EL-16

2)E-11

3)A280C

4)E-5

5)DC-15A

6)EL-16FHE

7)FWMB-10

8)M-45

9)DLT-19

10)RT-97C

11)E-5C

12)DC-15 

13)DC-15LE

14)RG-4D

15)DC-17

16)S-5

17)SE-44C

18)DLT-19D

19)A180

20)DLT-20A

21)IQA-11 with Improved Cooling 

22)A280-CFE

and rest of the guns dont get 10s super success cooling time when using Expert Weapon's Handling starcard

Fix this

6 Replies

  • Wow! That is awesome! 🥳

    Thanks for the video.

    I didn't know the difference between each class's default guns (I just thought those are skins :P).

  • Hello @Starwarsnerd9000, thanks for reporting in! 

    Very nice that you have created so many videos to provide substantial proof for the issue.

    However, after performing some test myself, I found that this is an arcade related issue, not multiplayer related. I've just done some tests in GA and Strike and came with the results below. I got the card on purple on all the tests that I have performed. I chose the weapons based on your observations.


    GA OFFICER, NO WEAPON ATTACHMENTS

    RK-3 without: 5.9 s

    RK-3 with: 9.9s

    DH-17 without: 5.7 s

    DH-17 with: 10.1 s


    This is indeed different then the numbers you have found, which is very much possible. The game has different mechanics for arcade and multiplayer modes. Therefore there are some bugs only related to arcade while others are only present in online modes. Another example of this is that you can one-shot any class in arcade with the repulsor gun.

    I've provided a video showing above 2 observations.

    Again, this makes me seriously wonder why they have a different mechanic system for arcade than in the online modes. I don't see the point of having two systems which differ slightly from each other.

    I find it extremely likely that there are more star cards that have these kind of issues. Hopefully we can see a fix for this one as well. The developers can just look at your list and see which weapons have the problem and which don't.

  • Sati_Sati's avatar
    Sati_Sati
    7 years ago

    Greetings!

    I was so impressed by your great work. So I tried to check the cooling time of those weapons. 🙂

    And I failed, I could not understand the equation. ( Exitoverheatdelay? OverheatDropDelay?  😞 -> 😢 )

    It is hard to calculate the time. The attached file is a by-product. (The activecooldown time zone chart.)

  • @Sati_Sati

    The way I started counting time was.

    1)Timer starts when I hit the yellow zone 1st time

    2) Timer ends when the yellow bar what appeared after I hit that yellow zone 1st time disappered.

    plain and simple. And that was done without and with the Expert Weapon's Handling starcard.

    And it seems it may give you different times in multiplayer versus arcade. But some guns do give less time than the card should give you in multiplayer still and that is indeed a bug and needs to be fixed.

    The process how I was counting the time Is still visible in every single of the videos I made, if you watched them 

    I repeated the same process with every single weapon as you can see in my videos.

  • RogueZeroRendar's avatar
    RogueZeroRendar
    Seasoned Ace
    7 years ago

    The more time passes, the more they make arcade different from MP. Just so we can't test things on our own and are left in the darkness.

    I'm working on a compilation of all Broken/Bugged/Worthless Hero Star Cards, but it's taking far more time to work on it because of the lack of Splitscreen on PC and the unreliability of Arcade. I'm doing everything first on Arcade, and then going to MP to verify my claim.

    The time I've put on this, and the time many others around here, like @Starwarsnerd9000@Sati_Sati@DYSPROssium, have been putting on these is such a considerable amont, that:

    If DICE allowed us some kind of testing environment, this game would surely have far less BUGs because of the amount of time and effort WE put on this for FREE.

    I hope they change their minds after realizing how that would help them. As they enlist Moderators free of charge, why not testers as well? And not that EA testers program that never actually calls me to do anything, and have the most selfish and childish reasons to enlist (play free games, play games before others do, or a truthful desire to help beloved EA)

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