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@Valar81Morghulis you're really suggesting in the current broken state Grievous is, he should get another immunity to his collection? There's only one answer to Grievous nowadays, and that is Han. And it all ends up being about Han interrupting Grievous's Claw Rush. So IMO, no matter how awkward Han's headbutt nullifying Grievous 4 saber thrust is, Grievous can't receive another immunity, especially against his only counter nowadays.
And you only got massacred by Claw Rush when you got like 65% or less of your remaining health? Is that supposed to mean Claw Rush is ok? Is 65% of your health being drained by 1 use of 1 skill ok? Not even Vader can do that, and this has been Vaderfront all along, he can block sabers with his bare hand while he threw his own saber and is choking someone else, with 40% damage reduction during this process.
And BTW, DICE announced the changes to Charge Skills in patch notes. Not only that, Guillaume had already mentioned he was looking into this months prior to actually doing it. He said it would come after Leia's changes, and it did.
But to make things less opinion oriented and more fact oriented, let's analyze the new Claw Rush. With how the controls work, and how much time it stays active, one use of Claw Rush performed by someone who got used to the new mechanic already can hit 4 times the same enemy, and even 5 times if the standing up hit registers. Each hit of Claw Rush deals 130 damage, but players will use Line Up, Weaklings for the increased 50 damage, bringing it to 180. 4 x 180 = 720, which kills Leia, Han, and BB-8 in one use of the ability. It can kill Finn and Yoda if they aren't with temporary health (and Yoda isn't using his DR card), and also Chewie and Lando if they aren't using their Health cards (and Chewie isn't with impervious granting him enough DR).
But who knows how to properly use it will hit 5 times, which brings the total to 900 damage, and that's enough to kill any lightside user unless Temp Health and Damage Reduction are involved. With a power of such magnitude you'd expect an ability like this to be too hard to perform, or that it couldn't be done too oftenly... But no. Apart from learning how to control it, hitting enemies is fairly easy, and once you hit the first time they become easy prey because of the knockback effect produced. To make it even easier, Grievous gets 40% DR during it (which can go up to 90% DR if using Cowardly Retreat), immunity to most Knockback effects, immunity to all stuns, immunity to all staggers, moves faster then any other Hero/Villain using any ability (aside from Boba when he's flying), reduces his hitbox considerably by moving with his body horizontally, and is surrounded by a very far reaching hitbox for his 180 damage skill attack. And the ability is on a 13s cooldown. For reference, Vader's throw, which is one of the fastest recharging single use hero abilities in the game, has 8s cooldown. Rey's Mind Trick (OP!) OTOH has a 20s cooldown. Heck, Lando's Smoke Grenade has a 14s cooldown, and that's the most useless ability of them all.
So yeah. Grievous should be banned from any form of serious competition here. And it's solely due to Claw Rush. People have a great reason to label that a gamebreaking BUG which should be fixed with haste.
- 5 years ago
Yes, let’s add more immunities to Grievous’s collection.
- C-townladiesman5 years agoRising Veteran
@Valar81Morghulis you sir, make me sick. People like you are the reason the community is toxic. If han can knock down grievous with a shoulder charge its no big deal. Just activate claw rush and do a 360 on him. Go play fortnite kid
- 5 years ago
Sick, huh? Maybe you should go to the doctor. Oh, so I am toxic? Yeah, I am so toxic for caring about logic. I don't even really play as General Grievous anymore due to him being MAX level. I was forced into picking him during that doomed GA game on Hoth, as 2 of my first choice Villain options were not available (and no, they aren't Vader, Kylo, Palpatine, or Bossk either). I had to clarify that last bit as you are most definitely another person on here who jumps to false conclusions.
You know, like my being toxic, or my being a kid, or my being a Fortnite player (not that anything is wrong with that). I am quite a good player at Battlefront II and I can/do win on a very, very consistent basis, while routinely placing in the Top 5. I also do so without the insulation of preexisting parties or a stacked team. But yeah, I don't win all the time. In fact, I find it very, very difficult to win at times (although I have carried many a terrible teams) with odds that are basically a team of 20 (with a preexisting party of 8-14 cohesive players all chatting it up on their group chat smart phones) vs. myself, 2-3 actual objective playing teammates, & literally everyone else who might as well be on the other team because that is the only team they are a benefit to.
- 5 years ago
You know what is more game breaking and game ruining than Claw Rush? Non-existent team balancing and horrendous matchmaking. But yeah, I guess two preexisting parties being placed on the same team vs. a team of say myself, 2-4 competent players (at most) & 15-17 people who just downloaded the game and/or never play the objective is far less a concern than General Grievous Claw Rush. I guess that someone wanting it to be said pre-exisiting parties placed on opposite teams with evenly dispersed numbers of the 15-17 new players is far too much to ask.
After all, instead of EA/Dice addressing this and going about fixing it years ago with a very simply and yes, a very legal algorithm, they instead catered to the vocal minority of people who kept complaining how everything was supposedly too over powered. Not saying that is you (in fact, it probably isn't) but I am stating that quite a few such people like that can be found on the number of topics about Claw Rush. Persons who seldom utilize the terrain and are not good teammates. But yeah, mostly great points on your part. Mostly.
- 5 years ago
So basically your entire argument is "lightsaber beats blaster", cool. Another addition to the ignore immediately list
- 5 years ago
As usual, you hit the nail on the head and backed it up with the cold hard facts.
(This was a reply to Rogue... But it didn't seem to quote correctly)
- 5 years ago
“This was a reply to Rogue... But it didn't seem to quote correctly”
You can edit it and @ him.Also agree with Rogue on this too
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