After spending quite a few hours in the coop mode, it appears to me that the AI is heavily boosted.-Their heroes are better than any we can get-They pop in huge number very quickly, to the point a defense battle is basically a lost battle 95% of the time. I've seen a defense point stormed by a bunch of enemies less than 10 seconds after the orders were given.-Their aim is ridiculous.-Their vision isn't affected by any plants, smoke or dust.-They seem to always know where we are.Basically, it's as if the AI free itself from its own rules while you still have to follow it. I guess the goal was to compensate for the lack of "human intelligence" in the AI, but at this point it's pointless to play in coop since, unless you're on the offensive, you will most probably lose anyway.

Everyone just use officer turrets and you're fine. The AI is not programmed to take any cover or focus your turret very much. Not so when it's yourself who moves out of cover.Also when you shoot from cover, the AI's hit chance is comparably poor. An example is the Starkiller Base map as defending stormtrooper when camping at the objective on the right side. Bring a LMG or fast sniper rifle and you're good. Just mind that visibility restrictions don't apply to the AI and they can sort of pre-aim even if a human player per game mechanics wouldn't know that you're there.

The A.I. is very easily manipulated. You can lure Heroes & Villains into time out areas (if you are say low on health or outmatched). When you know the A.I. spawn points you can then get an absurd amount of battle points to level up at a tremendous rate. The most dangerous A.I. are the Rocket Troopers and I make it my business to kill them first (as they are deadly accurate with their Rocket Launcher and it will result in certain death for your Hero or Villain). The only A.I. that I find to be insanely dumb are the tanks, as they can somehow shoot in any direction and even beneath themselves. The key to the game (just like any game mode) is playing the objective and having competent teammates. If you do all of that you should have no problem whatsoever in getting 100-300 eliminations in most games (as some maps will not permit such high scores unless one purposefully allows the A.I. to advance phases).

you have to learn to play the game1. learn to use your yellow manual cool down. I use it every single game and my side wins lots of matches. Not 9 out of 10. But 6 out of 10? that's a decent bet2. every map has choke points. LEARN THE MAP. it's like that movie 300. Doesn't matter how big the army is if they can't all fit through a doorway at the same time. Master those choke points.3. The key is to get to the final stage of the round. That's the "master choke point" and when the poop hits the fan. you do need to be on a team with people who can work together and know the rules of the game. Just need to play the game to get to that final stage Is the AI too much lots of the time? You bet. THAT'S THE GAME. If you really want to complain about something, complain about playing against 5 rocket troopers at one time in a round of Blast.

All I was describing was my way to play Coop. This method:1. helps the team I'm on win 50%-60% of matches (roughly - largely depends if I'm loaded into a group of fools or good players, of course)2. helps me get 50-100 personal eliminations using 1 of the 4 Infantry classes only 3. helped me get my personal best elimination tally - 179 - using Assault Infantry class only. Was on the Jabba's Palace map, worked that yellow manual cooldown on the E-11B blaster, worked the choke points on the map - that last stage was INSANE - must have had my trigger firing non-stop for at least 5 minutes. Y'all can play anyway you want. That's what works for me.

@MissSnowiieThere's definitely not a "use this weapon and you'll win co-op every time" guarantee. Use the weapons and classes you are best at. For me that's starting with the heavy class. I clear out a point while moving in on it, and immediately secure the point. I don't want to even give the AI the chance to swarm and lock down the point.That said, if my teammates aren't with me? Then I'll get overrun in the next AI wave lol!!! You need teammates willing to secure the points with you no matter what guns you use or what part of the map you are on.I do agree the friendly AI could be better. I can't count on them to do much more than serve as a distraction so that enemy AI isn't just focused on me.Speaking of heroes, I will actively avoid 1v1 on them because you are 100% right. They are too good at blocks and such. I either flank them or try to lure them into taking fire from the flanks.I still find Co-op honestly the best way to play online. It's got variety. I can actually get a hero and have fun. If I lose...on to the next map. And the matches usually don't take long...except for Endor Overtime lol Supremacy matches can drag on forever. I had one last night go for over an hour lol!!!

Why is the coop vs AI so unbalanced?

36 Replies

soapy_catuses
5 years ago
@Guanfei Compared to ps4 i have noticed that there is generally seems to be more of them and they seem to aim better
ArchAngeL-PCX
5 years ago
@Guanfei I think it's because there is only one difficulty level. Either way, you are correct. If you let the AI swarm a point, it's over. They will also melt a hero in seconds. You can't really afford to sit back and not push objectives.

It's very doable, but the more objective hounds you have on your team the better odds of winning.

Also keep in mind you sometimes just need to keep an objective contested. Worse case you'll force Overtime. The game won't just end on you, and you'll give your team a chance to regroup and knock them off.

My personal gripe is that our companion AI doesn't seem to be anywhere near as lethal or aggressive.
Guanfei
5 years ago
@ArchAngeL-PCX Issue is that most of the time, you don't have the choice but to let the AI swarm a point. They just arrive in massive numbers and seem to spawn faster than you can kill them, as if they didn't have any cooldown and the spawned right next to the point.
Player55
5 years ago
Coop on instant action, on the other hand seems to be easier than online.
StalkerAcolyte
5 years ago
@Guanfei I just started playing and I think heroes are generally broken and really ruin gameplay of this beautiful game.
I dont think however anything is wrong with spawn and I noticed that a lot of bots appear only when your team mates are bad and dont kill or do objectives . In good team which kills quickly and is coordinating well , spawn of bots is even disrupted a lot of times during whole match.
As for bots AI being different on pc than on console, well that is done on purpose I think, since playing with mouse and keyboard is a lot different and faster.Bots from console would probably be way too easy on pc.
Valar81Morghuli
5 years ago
The A.I. is very easily manipulated. You can lure Heroes & Villains into time out areas (if you are say low on health or outmatched). When you know the A.I. spawn points you can then get an absurd amount of battle points to level up at a tremendous rate. The most dangerous A.I. are the Rocket Troopers and I make it my business to kill them first (as they are deadly accurate with their Rocket Launcher and it will result in certain death for your Hero or Villain). The only A.I. that I find to be insanely dumb are the tanks, as they can somehow shoot in any direction and even beneath themselves. The key to the game (just like any game mode) is playing the objective and having competent teammates. If you do all of that you should have no problem whatsoever in getting 100-300 eliminations in most games (as some maps will not permit such high scores unless one purposefully allows the A.I. to advance phases).
InaccurateThing
5 years ago
The AI are very stupid in this game and feel unnatural. They can't seem to land their shots at ground targets (if you are boba you are screwed) and deal less damage, but annoyingly combat roll all the time and crouch, moving side to side while at it. They are smart enough to capture points but too stupid to get out of bounds. The AI feel like they are made to be anti player rather than being a realistic opponent.
ArchAngeL-PCX
5 years ago
@Guanfei My experience is you have to take the objective and make a stand there. If you let them swarm it, it's likely all over. Take the objective, dig in and farm them from there.
ArchAngeL-PCX
5 years ago
@Valar81Morghulis Agreed. They can be lured pretty easily too. They'll lock in on whatever engages them first. Alternatively, I often will let my AI teammates engage one of their heroes and then attack from the flank rather than take on their hero one on one.
TRlALON
5 years ago
Everyone just use officer turrets and you're fine. The AI is not programmed to take any cover or focus your turret very much. Not so when it's yourself who moves out of cover.
Also when you shoot from cover, the AI's hit chance is comparably poor. An example is the Starkiller Base map as defending stormtrooper when camping at the objective on the right side. Bring a LMG or fast sniper rifle and you're good. Just mind that visibility restrictions don't apply to the AI and they can sort of pre-aim even if a human player per game mechanics wouldn't know that you're there.