Hello, i would like to tell you about a common issue on SWTOR.SLI or Crossfire bring stuttering, less smoth game than 1 card. Is it normal? Is it normal also that this game use about 50% of the gpu power event with v-sync and all g-sync stuff disabled?Disable upscaling, set maximize power for this game, i tried every settings it's possible, i tried a lot of gpu's (i'm a reviewer) but still the same....Maybe it's time to bring power to your graphic engine.Best regards.

Yes it's normal.And you don't need SLI/Crossfire unless you want to build a multimonitor 4k setup for this game.With a 980Ti or Titan X even on max settings the CPU will be the bottleneck most of the time.

@Ptiwhisky wrote:I already tried it's an old problem unsolved by bioware AND nvidia.I tried on 780 sli's actually 2x 980Ti kingpin.Game is working better on 1 card than two but maybe it's time (it's a recommendation) to put more power to this game ^^.Even with 1 card fps are dropping down when there is more people, more lightning effects etc....And i'm still impress that the game don't want to use all horse power! Even on little cards like GTX 960 R9 370 etc this game don't want to use 100% of the power.I don't think that i am bottleneck with a 4930K at 4.8Ghz.Tried on a 5960X at 4.6Ghz still the same 😉The CPU is the bottleneck.5960X for SWTOR is a complete waste of money.SWTOR is CPU-Bound and uses only one core (actually two because it has two separate processes).You can test it yourself: press CTRL + SHIFT + F ingame. This will show you your current FPS in the bottom left corner. If the number is green the the GPU is the bottleneck, if it's red then the CPU is the bottleneck, if it's yellow then both CPU and GPU are at max.Then look into the Task Manager/whatever you use to monitor CPU usage. In case of the 5960X (8 Cores 16 Threads) you will see that both swtor.exe*32 use a maximum of 6.25% of the CPU each. That's because SWTOR can only use one (virtual because of hyperthreading) core.Spoiler (Highlight to read)Because my current CPU is broken I have to use an old AMD FX-4100 (4 cores). Other specs are MSI GTX 980Ti GAMING 6G, 24Gig DDR3-1600, SSD, Win10.I have two processes in my task manager:Star Wars: The Old Republic (32 bit), using up to 24.4% CPU and 1244.6MB RAMStar Wars: The Old Republic (32 bit), using up to 19.2% CPU and 311.2 MB RAMThis is standing on my Yavin 4 SH, 1080p, average 60FPS, "Very Low" graphics preset.When changing to "Ultra" graphics preset I get an average of 30 FPS. No increase in CPU usage, both processes use 20MB more RAM.Because my current CPU is broken I have to use an old AMD FX-4100 (4 cores). Other specs are MSI GTX 980Ti GAMING 6G, 24Gig DDR3-1600, SSD, Win10.I have two processes in my task manager:Star Wars: The Old Republic (32 bit), using up to 24.4% CPU and 1244.6MB RAMStar Wars: The Old Republic (32 bit), using up to 19.2% CPU and 311.2 MB RAMThis is standing on my Yavin 4 SH, 1080p, average 60FPS, "Very Low" graphics preset.When changing to "Ultra" graphics preset I get an average of 30 FPS. No increase in CPU usage, both processes use 20MB more RAM.

@Ptiwhisky wrote:The test you've just show that the engine is not using properly a CPU. Even at low settings, an i7 4930K or 5960X with overclock on it will always have more instructions power than an FX4100.That's the problem, the game don't use all components power, CPU and GPU and with multiple cards it 's worse.Exactly. The game is not using the CPU properly. And that's why the CPU is the bottleneck.Ofc those i7s are far better than the crappy FX. I was just giving an example with my current build.Why would you want to use SLI anyway when a single GPU is more than enough and SLI is unable to further increase FPS?Yes the game doesn't use everything that a modern PC can offer and the things that it actually uses are not used perfectly well.Problem with that is that BW would have to rewrite most of the games code to make it 64bit, multi-threaded, SLI-optimised and what not and currently it's not worth the effort for them.

I already tried it's an old problem unsolved by bioware AND nvidia.I tried on 780 sli's actually 2x 980Ti kingpin.Game is working better on 1 card than two but maybe it's time (it's a recommendation) to put more power to this game ^^.Even with 1 card fps are dropping down when there is more people, more lightning effects etc....And i'm still impress that the game don't want to use all horse power! Even on little cards like GTX 960 R9 370 etc this game don't want to use 100% of the power.I don't think that i am bottleneck with a 4930K at 4.8Ghz.Tried on a 5960X at 4.6Ghz still the same 😉

Improvement is always good 🙂 they have been looking and still are apparently The Lead Game Play Engineer posted this 2 weeks ago - http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=8454759&postcount=263 So there is hope Edit - The UI does have an impact on the FPS and turning it off is evident. The UI uses Scaleform

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Ptiwhisky
10 years ago
Up....
Always on reddit and all kind of forum, lot of people are asking upgrade to DX11 or to have more than 2 core used while playing this game.....
Hoping for some dev reply!
husmenusta
Seasoned Newcomer
10 years ago
up...
I really doubt that they are gonna say anything or code anything. This game had such potential that Im sad to look at current state. Correct me if Im wrong but I never saw them to admit anything regards to performance/engine issues.
I think it will Run it cores until it doesnt.
cheaterll
10 years ago
@husmenusta wrote:
up...
I really doubt that they are gonna say anything or code anything. This game had such potential that Im sad to look at current state. Correct me if Im wrong but I never saw them to admit anything regards to performance/engine issues.
I think it will Run it cores until it doesnt.
I'll correct you 😉
When asked about a 64-bit client at Gamescom Cantina Tour '15 they responded that they may do that if there is enough interest.
proxos666
Hero+
10 years ago
@cheaterll wrote:

I'll correct you 😉

When asked about a 64-bit client at Gamescom Cantina Tour '15 they responded that they may do that if there is enough interest.

@cheaterll

HAHAHA I bet that is just referring to the launcher client .... now that can easily be updated to 64bit the core game not so much .....
husmenusta
Seasoned Newcomer
10 years ago
Well if thats the case, whats the definition of interest to them?

There was and there is a tons of tons of reply on offical forums , here and reddit about fps drops/ issue of ui's/ sli problems/ multi-thread problems and so on...

We all know the issue. People asked and waited for answers and improvements. But there wasnt any. It only gone worst with every update. now we are living in DirectX 12 age with great hardware power. If I had a Gtx980Ti Sli or a Titan and still experince fps drop in warzones and 16M ops I would of gone crazy as well.
Many people quitted this game because of these issues. Maybe thats why they dont find interest anymore, cause there arent many left to show insterest...
I love this game and hate at the same time. Many people do. The answer that I waited was something like this:

"Yes we are acknowledge there is engine and graphic issues and we are trying to fix them. Issues we are having are: ................. and ................. and ............ and ................................
we have to fix them for a smooth gameplay so we wont be publish any new content (which they dont anyhows) until 3 months.(or whatever time) "

Now that looks like a responsible and trustworthy company. Not the "please update your drivers and check your connection and make sure there arent any resource draining apps because everything is working fine in our end."

That full of BS and lies plain and simple. And people saw it, and they dont trust the game or developers or the company anymore. Cause over 4+ years, they didnt do anything to gain our trust.
cheaterll
10 years ago
That's all they said. Sadly.
My sentiments exactly. I have pretty much the best possible PC for SWTOR - overclocked i7-6700K and a GTX 980 Ti - and I still drop below 30 FPS regularly even in 8m ops.
Edit: SWTOR is on two SSDs in RAID 0 and I did not get FPS impovements when moving the whole game to RAM with SWTOR Unleashed.
husmenusta
Seasoned Newcomer
10 years ago
Yeap thats really my point. I bet you get 120+ fps on every other game...
Ptiwhisky
10 years ago
Up to get the thread active and show that people care about this game.
Maybe (dream on) dev will see that players (customers?) want to have an better experience with this game!
XoXo
proxos666
Hero+
10 years ago
@cheaterll @Ptiwhisky

Have you tested the other SLI modes to see if they perform any better, AFR is the likely one currently used in the swtor profile as default (assumption).

Alternate Frame Rendering (AFR),

Split Frame Rendering (SFR),

Boost Performance Hybrid SLI,

SLIAA and

Compatibility mode.
Ptiwhisky
10 years ago
I'm not a fool =D
But seriously yes move pre renderer frame can also help a bit but the engine is still very slow when there is more than 1 trash on an operation or anything else this game must be upgradaded seriously.

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