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- Jdsteigerwald10 years agoNot applicableSince you're under the illusion you faced an FOTP/QGJ team, let me show you what one actually looks like.
http://i.imgur.com/aThVoPK.png?1
http://i.imgur.com/L7jrYBG.png?1
Sorry for starting off aggressive, I just don't think enough people do extensive research prior to making claims and, in my opinion, this is one of those cases.
You see, I have FOTP and QGJ and I'm fighting FOTP and QGJ along with a few other great characters. I put both there to show that I won because I felt like it. Anyways, you'll noticed that out of everyone, FOTP took the least amount of damage, now that could be because he didn't get hit with a crit or whatever. Sid, QGJ, and FOTP are all 7 stars, Poe is 6 stars and Old Ben is 5 stars.
The problem people have with FOTP/QGJ teams it that they are very, very strong. Now, QGJ is strong in is own right and doesn't require some nerf because, as you can see, his health is in line with other characters that hit hard. In fact, I took him out prior to taking out FOTP because QGJ is a very powerful character that could have royally screwed me. FOTP puts out damage greater than QGJ but has the health of a 7 star Aayla secura in this instance. You'll see he has more health than everyone out there right now including Poe and Old Ben (granted they aren't fully starred so I understand that). However, I still have a slot open that could give him another 250 health that I haven't filled because I'm lazy. He crits for 5.2k damage per attack with advantage and with Sidious as leader and he crits for 3.7k without advantage. Furthermore, with advantage he has a 90% chance to attack again critting for another 5.2k damage in one turn.
The problem is less with his damage, which is really high, it's with the fact that he has 12,500 health. Again, no one on that field on my team has more health than that, no one. He is the strongest hitter and he has the highest HP.
I'm level 64 for reference. - roganban10 years agoNot applicable99% it's the f2p, freemium teams that want to nerf this, nerf that.... in the end money speaks. What makes you f2p people think you should be able to complain about people who spend thousands in the first place. This so ridiculous. Now I'm no whale I've spent about $540 so far and managed and planned my spending. It's still hard to beat whale teams but they spent much more than me. I accept that.
- TelaanLightwave10 years agoNot applicable
"Rogan_Ban84;63955" wrote:
99% it's the f2p, freemium teams that want to nerf this, nerf that.... in the end money speaks. What makes you f2p people think you should be able to complain about people who spend thousands in the first place. This so ridiculous. Now I'm no whale I've spent about $540 so far and managed and planned my spending. It's still hard to beat whale teams but they spent much more than me. I accept that.
Fotp is a f2p toon lol - davidbeatti199010 years agoNot applicable
"Cyn;63953" wrote:
Since you're under the illusion you faced an FOTP/QGJ team, let me show you what one actually looks like.
http://i.imgur.com/aThVoPK.png?1
http://i.imgur.com/L7jrYBG.png?1
Sorry for starting off aggressive, I just don't think enough people do extensive research prior to making claims and, in my opinion, this is one of those cases.
You see, I have FOTP and QGJ and I'm fighting FOTP and QGJ along with a few other great characters. I put both there to show that I won because I felt like it. Anyways, you'll noticed that out of everyone, FOTP took the least amount of damage, now that could be because he didn't get hit with a crit or whatever. Sid, QGJ, and FOTP are all 7 stars, Poe is 6 stars and Old Ben is 5 stars.
The problem people have with FOTP/QGJ teams it that they are very, very strong. Now, QGJ is strong in is own right and doesn't require some nerf because, as you can see, his health is in line with other characters that hit hard. In fact, I took him out prior to taking out FOTP because QGJ is a very powerful character that could have royally screwed me. FOTP puts out damage greater than QGJ but has the health of a 7 star Aayla secura in this instance. You'll see he has more health than everyone out there right now including Poe and Old Ben (granted they aren't fully starred so I understand that). However, I still have a slot open that could give him another 250 health that I haven't filled because I'm lazy. He crits for 5.2k damage per attack with advantage and with Sidious as leader and he crits for 3.7k without advantage. Furthermore, with advantage he has a 90% chance to attack again critting for another 5.2k damage in one turn.
The problem is less with his damage, which is really high, it's with the fact that he has 12,500 health. Again, no one on that field on my team has more health than that, no one. He is the strongest hitter and he has the highest HP.
I'm level 64 for reference.
Although i am not at 64 i will find a counter by playing with my teams ( i have everyone but like 5 heroes unlocked). By the time im 70 i will have 7* starred them with most are 5-6 now.
I promise you there are ways to stop him , have you tried a stun combo team with a phasma?.
Solo is good fodder because the damage they do to him gives the team more turns. If i coupled that with dooku and Daka high ability pumping to keep him and jin stunned. Then using a Ren to have a double counter combo and to stop healing. Then a Liea to pump up my crits and use her and ren to deal with FoTP before attacking.
If that didn't work i would keep moving and trying again until i find the build. Then write it down for when i face that build again. - roganban10 years agoNot applicable
"Telaan;63959" wrote:
"Rogan_Ban84;63955" wrote:
99% it's the f2p, freemium teams that want to nerf this, nerf that.... in the end money speaks. What makes you f2p people think you should be able to complain about people who spend thousands in the first place. This so ridiculous. Now I'm no whale I've spent about $540 so far and managed and planned my spending. It's still hard to beat whale teams but they spent much more than me. I accept that.
Fotp is a f2p toon lol
Technically true but let's get real, with the drops being low as it is it will take you months to even five star him. Not really feasible to get being f2p - Jdsteigerwald10 years agoNot applicable@Mofojokers1992
Well, if I'm running QGJ then Solo does nothing but give me team a 50% offense up buff so I would thank you for that and proceed to destroy you.
Anyways, the point of the matter is not his damage, it's his health. 12,500 health for one of the strongest hitters in the game is too much and is quite likely a bug and this is coming from someone that uses him and likes him. His STR stat when he goes from 6 stars to 7 stars gets a 3.3 multiplier bonus where he was primarily getting an AGI bonus the rest of his star levels. If it's not a bug then keep him as is because I like him and use him but I suspect it is a bug. I have yet to see a character switch their primary stat (STR, AGI, or INT) when becoming 7 stars outside of him. - davidbeatti199010 years agoNot applicable
"Rogan_Ban84;63955" wrote:
99% it's the f2p, freemium teams that want to nerf this, nerf that.... in the end money speaks. What makes you f2p people think you should be able to complain about people who spend thousands in the first place. This so ridiculous. Now I'm no whale I've spent about $540 so far and managed and planned my spending. It's still hard to beat whale teams but they spent much more than me. I accept that.
I guess though not sure why a F2P expects to have the same access as someone that pays.
I have seen posts to nerf Jin, Liea and the list goes on. - davidbeatti199010 years agoNot applicable
"Telaan;63959" wrote:
"Rogan_Ban84;63955" wrote:
99% it's the f2p, freemium teams that want to nerf this, nerf that.... in the end money speaks. What makes you f2p people think you should be able to complain about people who spend thousands in the first place. This so ridiculous. Now I'm no whale I've spent about $540 so far and managed and planned my spending. It's still hard to beat whale teams but they spent much more than me. I accept that.
Fotp is a f2p toon lol
Indeed - davidbeatti199010 years agoNot applicable
"Cyn;63973" wrote:
@Mofojokers1992
Well, if I'm running QGJ then Solo does nothing but give me team a 50% offense up buff so I would thank you for that and proceed to destroy you.
Anyways, the point of the matter is not his damage, it's his health. 12,500 health for one of the strongest hitters in the game is too much and is quite likely a bug and this is coming from someone that uses him and likes him. His STR stat when he goes from 6 stars to 7 stars gets a 3.3 multiplier bonus where he was primarily getting an AGI bonus the rest of his star levels. If it's not a bug then keep him as is because I like him and use him but I suspect it is a bug. I have yet to see a character switch their primary stat (STR, AGI, or INT) when becoming 7 stars outside of him.
Fair enough if it is not by design but if it is best to leave it and learn to counter it.
So agree with ya - xgozitax10 years agoNot applicable
"Mofojokers1992;63962" wrote:
"Cyn;63953" wrote:
Since you're under the illusion you faced an FOTP/QGJ team, let me show you what one actually looks like.
http://i.imgur.com/aThVoPK.png?1
http://i.imgur.com/L7jrYBG.png?1
Sorry for starting off aggressive, I just don't think enough people do extensive research prior to making claims and, in my opinion, this is one of those cases.
You see, I have FOTP and QGJ and I'm fighting FOTP and QGJ along with a few other great characters. I put both there to show that I won because I felt like it. Anyways, you'll noticed that out of everyone, FOTP took the least amount of damage, now that could be because he didn't get hit with a crit or whatever. Sid, QGJ, and FOTP are all 7 stars, Poe is 6 stars and Old Ben is 5 stars.
The problem people have with FOTP/QGJ teams it that they are very, very strong. Now, QGJ is strong in is own right and doesn't require some nerf because, as you can see, his health is in line with other characters that hit hard. In fact, I took him out prior to taking out FOTP because QGJ is a very powerful character that could have royally screwed me. FOTP puts out damage greater than QGJ but has the health of a 7 star Aayla secura in this instance. You'll see he has more health than everyone out there right now including Poe and Old Ben (granted they aren't fully starred so I understand that). However, I still have a slot open that could give him another 250 health that I haven't filled because I'm lazy. He crits for 5.2k damage per attack with advantage and with Sidious as leader and he crits for 3.7k without advantage. Furthermore, with advantage he has a 90% chance to attack again critting for another 5.2k damage in one turn.
The problem is less with his damage, which is really high, it's with the fact that he has 12,500 health. Again, no one on that field on my team has more health than that, no one. He is the strongest hitter and he has the highest HP.
I'm level 64 for reference.
Although i am not at 64 i will find a counter by playing with my teams ( i have everyone but like 5 heroes unlocked). By the time im 70 i will have 7* starred them with most are 5-6 now.
I promise you there are ways to stop him , have you tried a stun combo team with a phasma?.
Solo is good fodder because the damage they do to him gives the team more turns. If i coupled that with dooku and Daka high ability pumping to keep him and jin stunned. Then using a Ren to have a double counter combo and to stop healing. Then a Liea to pump up my crits and use her and ren to deal with FoTP before attacking.
If that didn't work i would keep moving and trying again until i find the build. Then write it down for when i face that build again.
FFS dude FOTP is currently BUGGED. At 7* stars his agility and strength switch so he effectively gets the hp of a tank. THAT is why he is broken. Get that through your head. Once he is fixed and we can see how the hero is supposed to be, then we can talk.
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