10M GP reached!
First players to reach 10M GP! What a time to be alive lol. Congrats to the guys. Kinda crazy to see those numbers, but shows how far the game has come.
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First players to reach 10M GP! What a time to be alive lol. Congrats to the guys. Kinda crazy to see those numbers, but shows how far the game has come.
"DarjeloSalas;c-2278050" wrote:
Steroids / performance enhancing drugs seem to have done the trick in the past.
Those things don't guarantee success. You still need talent even if you use illegal substances.
No matter how many I take I won't become the next Wayne Gretzky, Lionel Messi, Tony Hawk etc.
However if I (or you or anyone else) spend enough money I can become one of the top players in this game. It's even easier in other games.- State of the art gym equipment, personal trainers, personal nutritionists, best food available, best apparel available all help athletes. These things cost money.
"Konju;c-2278057" wrote:
State of the art gym equipment, personal trainers, personal nutritionists, best food available, best apparel available all help athletes. These things cost money."th3evo;c-2277522" wrote:
I guess you could say that with money you have access to better equipment/food/trainers etc. but those aren't really direct and instant results like they are in games so it's a bit of a strech.
Just like with banned substances - none of those things guarantee success.
It's incomparably easier to become the best (or one of the best) in a P2W game or a game with P2W elements than it is to become a pro athlete."th3evo;c-2278061" wrote:
"Konju;c-2278057" wrote:
State of the art gym equipment, personal trainers, personal nutritionists, best food available, best apparel available all help athletes. These things cost money."th3evo;c-2277522" wrote:
I guess you could say that with money you have access to better equipment/food/trainers etc. but those aren't really direct and instant results like they are in games so it's a bit of a strech.
Just like with banned substances - none of those things guarantee success.
It's incomparably easier to become the best (or one of the best) in a P2W game or a game with P2W elements than it is to become a pro athlete.
I assure you, the whales are not guaranteed to be "the best" at anything besides deployed GP. Watch Ahnald's stream; he makes mistakes aplenty, and he seems to be one of the more skilled whales (based on his win rate). I'd wager a lot of f2p D2 folks could beat a lot of D1 whales in a GAC matchup.
No analogy is perfect. But there certainly aren't a lot of inner city kids making it in the PGA.- The difference, people win money and prizes in real life sports/tournaments, real world money and what not. You don't win nothing in this game besides self satisfaction and entertainment. You could try to make a claim that crystals is what you win and they are worth X amount but it's not that way.
Trying to compare this game to a real life sport is silly imo. Unless they add this game to Esports(HA) or CG/EA hosts their own tournament and rules, it doesn't matter. Let the whales continue feeding the game. Why do you think it's been running for this long? "th3evo;c-2278061" wrote:
"Konju;c-2278057" wrote:
State of the art gym equipment, personal trainers, personal nutritionists, best food available, best apparel available all help athletes. These things cost money."th3evo;c-2277522" wrote:
I guess you could say that with money you have access to better equipment/food/trainers etc. but those aren't really direct and instant results like they are in games so it's a bit of a strech.
Just like with banned substances - none of those things guarantee success.
It's incomparably easier to become the best (or one of the best) in a P2W game or a game with P2W elements than it is to become a pro athlete.
Buying things in this game or many games doesnt guarantee success.
This is not a P2W game, its P2P, there is nothing here that cannot be gained for free. (P2W games have things you can only get with $$)"Kyno;c-2278065" wrote:
"th3evo;c-2278061" wrote:
"Konju;c-2278057" wrote:
State of the art gym equipment, personal trainers, personal nutritionists, best food available, best apparel available all help athletes. These things cost money."th3evo;c-2277522" wrote:
I guess you could say that with money you have access to better equipment/food/trainers etc. but those aren't really direct and instant results like they are in games so it's a bit of a strech.
Just like with banned substances - none of those things guarantee success.
It's incomparably easier to become the best (or one of the best) in a P2W game or a game with P2W elements than it is to become a pro athlete.
Buying things in this game or many games doesnt guarantee success.
This is not a P2W game, its P2P, there is nothing here that cannot be gained for free. (P2W games have things you can only get with $$)
Yes, you probably won't be successful with Tuskens in the arena even after spending 1 billion dollars. However if you spend enough money on a game and you understand the game you have much higher chance of being successful than in sports. Even if you have the best trainer, best food, best everything there is still (probably) a higher chance of you being bad than becoming a pro.
Battlefront 2 also wasn't P2W. All you had to do was spend whole days in the game - What was it again? 40 hours of playtime to unlock one hero or something?
Don't know about you but "technically not P2W" doesn't make everything ok for me.
Once again - I know SWGoH isn't the worst offender."th3evo;c-2278073" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2278065" wrote:
"th3evo;c-2278061" wrote:
"Konju;c-2278057" wrote:
State of the art gym equipment, personal trainers, personal nutritionists, best food available, best apparel available all help athletes. These things cost money."th3evo;c-2277522" wrote:
I guess you could say that with money you have access to better equipment/food/trainers etc. but those aren't really direct and instant results like they are in games so it's a bit of a strech.
Just like with banned substances - none of those things guarantee success.
It's incomparably easier to become the best (or one of the best) in a P2W game or a game with P2W elements than it is to become a pro athlete.
Buying things in this game or many games doesnt guarantee success.
This is not a P2W game, its P2P, there is nothing here that cannot be gained for free. (P2W games have things you can only get with $$)
Yes, you probably won't be successful with Tuskens in the arena even after spending 1 billion dollars. However if you spend enough money on a game and you understand the game you have much higher chance of being successful than in sports. Even if you have the best trainer, best food, best everything there is still (probably) a higher chance of you being bad than becoming a pro.
Battlefront 2 also wasn't P2W. All you had to do was spend whole days in the game - What was it again? 40 hours of playtime to unlock one hero or something?
Don't know about you but "technically not P2W" doesn't make everything ok for me.
Once again - I know SWGoH isn't the worst offender.
But it's not technically not P2W, this game is literally not.
P2W - paying to get something you cannot get by other means. Paying for exclusivity.
P2P - paying to get some advantage, usually time (i.e.- getting things faster) Nothing is exclusive.
Being that it's an analogy, and therefore assuming the same natural ability in either sport or gaming, I would disagree, but we can move on."Kyno;c-2278082" wrote:
"th3evo;c-2278073" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2278065" wrote:
"th3evo;c-2278061" wrote:
"Konju;c-2278057" wrote:
State of the art gym equipment, personal trainers, personal nutritionists, best food available, best apparel available all help athletes. These things cost money."th3evo;c-2277522" wrote:
I guess you could say that with money you have access to better equipment/food/trainers etc. but those aren't really direct and instant results like they are in games so it's a bit of a strech.
Just like with banned substances - none of those things guarantee success.
It's incomparably easier to become the best (or one of the best) in a P2W game or a game with P2W elements than it is to become a pro athlete.
Buying things in this game or many games doesnt guarantee success.
This is not a P2W game, its P2P, there is nothing here that cannot be gained for free. (P2W games have things you can only get with $$)
Yes, you probably won't be successful with Tuskens in the arena even after spending 1 billion dollars. However if you spend enough money on a game and you understand the game you have much higher chance of being successful than in sports. Even if you have the best trainer, best food, best everything there is still (probably) a higher chance of you being bad than becoming a pro.
Battlefront 2 also wasn't P2W. All you had to do was spend whole days in the game - What was it again? 40 hours of playtime to unlock one hero or something?
Don't know about you but "technically not P2W" doesn't make everything ok for me.
Once again - I know SWGoH isn't the worst offender.
But it's not technically not P2W, this game is literally not.
P2W - paying to get something you cannot get by other means. Paying for exclusivity.
P2P - paying to get some advantage, usually time (i.e.- getting things faster) Nothing is exclusive.
Being that it's an analogy, and therefore assuming the same natural ability in either sport or gaming, I would disagree, but we can move on.
Not everything P2P is acceptable which is why I used Battlefront 2 as an example. You technically couldn't call it P2W back then either because it was possible to get everything F2P (after purchasing the game ofc). All it took was a massive time investment. I don't think that was ok because even P2P should have some limits.
Do you remember half a year ago when they released BAM and then required him for GC feats? That's an example of "technically not P2W" in my opinion.
Analogies often don't work."th3evo;c-2278146" wrote:
"TVF;c-2278136" wrote:
"th3evo;c-2278123" wrote:
"RTS;c-2278100" wrote:
"th3evo;c-2278056" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2278050" wrote:
Steroids / performance enhancing drugs seem to have done the trick in the past.
Those things don't guarantee success. You still need talent even if you use illegal substances.
No matter how many I take I won't become the next Wayne Gretzky, Lionel Messi, Tony Hawk etc.
However if I (or you or anyone else) spend enough money I can become one of the top players in this game. It's even easier in other games.
Having the top rosters != being a top player, that's not how this works.
There is no clear way to say who is the best player in this game - it depends on what you think is more important (GAC, GP, squad arena wins etc.).
This game is primarily a collecting game so I would say that the the best player is the one with the biggest roster. At least that's my opinion.
If you think spending money = better player, I guess so.
No, I don't think that spending money = better player. I've been saying the opposite this whole time.
But the size of your collection is probably the most important thing in a collecting game, right?
The only game mode that a bigger collection can even come close to helping over combat is TBs, but still there, combats are bringing in a lot of points. Everywhere else, collection "doesnt matter" it's how you use it. Even GCs, we have seen players beat out events without the new toon using strategy when their collection is "smaller".
So no, not the most important, but maybe let's you be a little less knowledgeable at times.
