2 years to gear 11: not a complaint, just a question

100% f2p: https://swgoh.gg/u/vertigo/

I think your main problem here might be the guild you're in. Does your guild run heroic rancor raids or just tier V/VI? If you're doing well in raids but only getting 10 salvage pieces thats a gonna be a really slow farm, even the lower ranks of a heroic rancor give like 20 salvage pieces. Getting in a good guild running more raids and better raids will drastically improve how much gear you're getting that you need. The slowest farms will be the ones that take a lot (50 pieces) from the LS/DS battles like stun cuffs and stun guns. Those are the hardest pieces to obtain for a lot of people, but you're right there is a huge step up from gear 8 to gear 9 and above.

A lot of the gear as you get to gear 10 though comes from different places, like some will come from the AAT raid and some from the Rancor raid and some from LS/DS battles which is a little easier to farm as you can do both simultaneously rather than just farming 1 raid for all the gear you now have a split amount of gear some of which needs gear from one raid and some gear needs stuff from the other. Most of your energy as you grind will go into farming the gear that needs 50 pieces from LS/DS battles though. You CAN get some of this stuff in the rewards from the Pit raid, but it's not always what you're looking for.

In short: It takes a while, this is where the real grind starts for gear, but it won't take quite 2 years, and if you can get into a more active guild and run higher tier raids you'll be far better off in getting your characters to gear 11.

I have been playing a year and 2 months. I have 5 tier XI characters, and another 16 tier X. Plus a handful of tier IX as well.

I spent $100 on the game in that time (I wouldn't have spent even that much, but there were.... extenuating circumstances). None of that went to gear purchases in the shops. Have been running heroic rancor raids since near inception. Have only been doing normal ATT raids.

So you are severely over estimating the time (assuming you can do at least H Rancor). And/or you aren't spending enough energy on farming the specific gear you need for your characters right now.

Find a guild that runs new raids every couple days. Save your crystals from the arena and GW and use them to buy gear in the store. You can get close to 200 crystals every day from just doing everything. The most expensive pieces in the store are no more then 1400. That's about 7-8 days and most toons only need 2-3 of the best pieces. I use spare energy to farm the easy stuff. Cuffs, Stun Guns etc. I mostly save my crystals. You can jump from G10 to 11 in a week or a couple at most.

"Obi_six_Kenobi;97421" wrote:
I'm not a complainer, but I would like this clarified so I can determine if i want to continue playing this game or not.

I am currently a f2p lvl 72 and vascilate between 150 and 250 arena rank. I have 7 characters up to gear level 8, but the jump to level 9 seems intimidating and then I will still have to get the characters from 9 to 10 and then from 10 to 11.

For example, one of my characters requires 250 purple 100 of which are raid only, another 100 is farmable on LS/DS battles, the last 50 is easy as i can get it from the gear challenges. Spending all my energy on the farmable gear even with using the two 50/50 energy refreshes, I'll get about 5 a day so 100 would take 20 days. I have no idea how I'll get the raid only gear, I usually do well in the raids but even if I'm lucky enough to get the gear I actually need, I still only get about 10 pieces of it.

So, it seems like it will take about 1 month to get 1 character from gear 8 to 9. I can only assume levels 10 and 11 take even longer (I'll assume 1.5 months and 2 months respectively). So getting 1 character from 8 to 11 should take about 4.5 months.

Finally, to have a full squad of 5 characters at level 11 would take approximately 22.5 months, close to 2 years.

Is there something wrong with my math?

Am I missing something?

Have I reached the point that a f2p'er can realistically reach?

For all of you that do have many characters at gear 11, how long did it take you? Have any of you done it without paying a ton of money?

Again, I'm not trying to complain, just understand.

I've been playing since November 2015, and I'm F2P.

"Vertigo;946001" wrote:
100% f2p: https://swgoh.gg/u/vertigo/

I think your main problem here might be the guild you're in. Does your guild run heroic rancor raids or just tier V/VI? If you're doing well in raids but only getting 10 salvage pieces thats a gonna be a really slow farm, even the lower ranks of a heroic rancor give like 20 salvage pieces. Getting in a good guild running more raids and better raids will drastically improve how much gear you're getting that you need. The slowest farms will be the ones that take a lot (50 pieces) from the LS/DS battles like stun cuffs and stun guns. Those are the hardest pieces to obtain for a lot of people, but you're right there is a huge step up from gear 8 to gear 9 and above.

A lot of the gear as you get to gear 10 though comes from different places, like some will come from the AAT raid and some from the Rancor raid and some from LS/DS battles which is a little easier to farm as you can do both simultaneously rather than just farming 1 raid for all the gear you now have a split amount of gear some of which needs gear from one raid and some gear needs stuff from the other. Most of your energy as you grind will go into farming the gear that needs 50 pieces from LS/DS battles though. You CAN get some of this stuff in the rewards from the Pit raid, but it's not always what you're looking for.

In short: It takes a while, this is where the real grind starts for gear, but it won't take quite 2 years, and if you can get into a more active guild and run higher tier raids you'll be far better off in getting your characters to gear 11.

Thanks for the helpful response! Any suggestions on how to get into a more productive guild? My guild seems decent, we have about 30 active players with a handful at lvl 85. We've never done any heroic raids and usually alternate between tier 3 and tier 5 rancor raids while the AAT raid takes about two weeks.

"Exletion;946018" wrote:
Find a guild that runs new raids every couple days. Save your crystals from the arena and GW and use them to buy gear in the store. You can get close to 200 crystals every day from just doing everything. The most expensive pieces in the store are no more then 1400. That's about 7-8 days and most toons only need 2-3 of the best pieces. I use spare energy to farm the easy stuff. Cuffs, Stun Guns etc. I mostly save my crystals. You can jump from G10 to 11 in a week or a couple at most.

Thanks, good advice. Any suggestions on finding a good guild?

I've "only" been playing for ... uh ... hm ... 16 months, and I've got 11 characters at g11. A majority of those reached g11 in the last 3 months. It was not that long ago that g11 wasn't even attainable for most characters.

I know the gear climb is daunting, but the only way to get up that hill is to get yourself in an active guild and start climbing. Raid rewards and guild currency add up over time. And g11 is not the same for all characters. It only took me 2 months to farm up Leia from nothing to 7* g11 (RIP Carrie Fisher).

I have not spent a *ton* of money to speed gearing. But I have spent some because impatience got the better of me.

It won't take you 2 years to build a g11 squad.

"Obi_six_Kenobi;946041" wrote:

"Exletion;946018" wrote:
Find a guild that runs new raids every couple days. Save your crystals from the arena and GW and use them to buy gear in the store. You can get close to 200 crystals every day from just doing everything. The most expensive pieces in the store are no more then 1400. That's about 7-8 days and most toons only need 2-3 of the best pieces. I use spare energy to farm the easy stuff. Cuffs, Stun Guns etc. I mostly save my crystals. You can jump from G10 to 11 in a week or a couple at most.

Thanks, good advice. Any suggestions on finding a good guild?

Search the forums, find a guild that is recruiting players, and running heroic rancors and normal AATs. Most guilds in that situation would take you in.

"Dooku_for_days;946046" wrote:

"Obi_six_Kenobi;946041" wrote:

"Exletion;946018" wrote:
Find a guild that runs new raids every couple days. Save your crystals from the arena and GW and use them to buy gear in the store. You can get close to 200 crystals every day from just doing everything. The most expensive pieces in the store are no more then 1400. That's about 7-8 days and most toons only need 2-3 of the best pieces. I use spare energy to farm the easy stuff. Cuffs, Stun Guns etc. I mostly save my crystals. You can jump from G10 to 11 in a week or a couple at most.

Thanks, good advice. Any suggestions on finding a good guild?

Search the forums, find a guild that is recruiting players, and running heroic rancors and normal AATs. Most guilds in that situation would take you in.

This is excellent advice. Most guilds that are worth anything will post here on the forums. Get yourself a good guild. You'll get that gear.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/categories/player-guilds