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GW Store:
Take all the ships. Plo Koon has maybe the 2rd best reinforcement ability in the game, maybe even best. He AoE cleanses ALL debuffs on your squad and then gives a large amount of health and protection back to all your other ships at once and is the only ship in the game that can do this either as a reinforcement or in play. Even if your pilot is low gear, it doesn't matter, because the point is to save all your powerful ships from the brink of destruction. He even has an ability that allows you to give a taunt to any ship you want, so you bring Plo in, gain all the health & prot, then give taunt to any ship you want (even Plo's) and that can help you a ton more than bringing in your 3rd best attacker in the middle of a fleet with 17 debuffs and next-to-no health left.
The point of Plo isn't to be a monster ship. The point of Plo is that you can use him to save all the ships you really invested in (both ship and pilot).
So... no. Def. don't skip Plo.
But also don't skip any ship in the GW store. 7* all of them. They're all needed at some point or other for specific events or factions. Jedi Consular is used in the GAS event, for instance, etc. etc. etc. If you wait until you need a specific ship for a specific event, you might find that it's one of the ships that shows up rarely in the GW store. If you're always collecting, right from the beginning, then you'll have the ship ready (or near ready). But if you didn't buy them from the beginning, you'll find that it's taking too long to wait for the blueprints to show up in GW Store, and you'll end up using much more valuable currencies elsewhere when you could have had it done with GW Tokens only if you took the longer view.
So, yeah. Buy ALL the ships that the GW Store offers.
The rest of your thinking on GW Store is fine - agree.
Cantina Store:
Agree Daka is the priority.
I wouldn't ever buy Ship Building Materials or T4 Enhancement Droids. Never. If you finish everything in the store, then just buy U-Wing blueprints and turn then into Shard Shop currency. They'll get you a couple salvage of some gear you actually need, which is better than Ship Building materials which, by the time you finish everything, should be coming in steadily and are expensive to purchase with tokens. The amount of SBM you gain just isn't worth as much as 2 stun gun salvage would be.
Also, and this is just me, but a couple of those characters have multiple sources that make them not very worth buy-in in the store. So, when I was faced with this situation earlier in my playing days, I bought things up to 6* so that if I ever really needed the toon finished quickly, I wasn't so far away, but after 6* I relied on other sources. So my Cantina list for you, post-data would be this:
which one are just awful so we don't farm them?
I cut Mob Enforcer, SBMs, and training droids. JKG is more of an "in case" farm. She's almost bad enough never to farm, ever, but farming toons take a long time, and although gearing all the way to Relic takes a while, it doesn't take as long as the farm itself. For that reason, I prefer a "collect em all, just don't give them any gear" approach to most bad toons. You never know when you'll get caught without a needed toon.
That said, the odds of ever needing JKG are quire low, so skipping JKG completely and relying on the long, slow process of random Bronzium bonuses and other event shards is good enough for a lot of people. That's more a matter of style than a matter of good advice. My style would be to take JKG to 6*, but I'm not saying that my style is better than anybody else. It's just how I do it. Other people could tell you to skip that character and they'd have their own good reasons for doing so.
Squad Arena Store:
This is a good list, and a good order. By the time you could be spending on credits, the credit crunch will be eased up a lot. I keep a good reserve or Arena Tokens (about 12-20k these days) and I spend more on shards of completed toons to get Shard Shop currency than I do on Prestige. But that's because I build up such a huge reserve of prestige that I still have 3k left with only 1 capital ship left to unlock. I might never feel any prestige crunch ever again. But at your level? You have 8 cap ships to max out. If you ever get to the point where you should be buying shards instead of prestige, it's because you've been playing the game for years and you don't need my advice anymore.
None of the toons in the 2nd group are important enough right away that you can't build up a reserve of a few thousand Tokens. Why do it this way? Because if you spend all your tokens as you get them, then later figure out hat you really need Savage Opress b/c of some rework or event or something, then you have to start from 0 tokens. If it turns out that it's Nebit that you need in a hurry, you can always quick-spend those Arena Tokens on Nebit anyway. But if it turns out to be something else (including Prestige) that you need in a hurry because of some new announcement, it's way better to have saved up tokens than have spent them all on toons that are helpful to have, but not really necessary.
Note Ugnaught & CUP. These are luxury toons. You could skip farming them altogether, but a lot of people feel a sense of pride at getting these two toons in particular b/c they're so bad. It's a way of saying, Look, I've done so well, I could afford to waste Tokens on this junk. I must be doing pretty great, right?
I don't know if you'll feel that sense of pride. I collected them, but that was years ago when there weren't as many other things to spend my Arena Tokens on (including not having nearly as many CapShips who needed prestige).
Anyway, skip 'em if you want. Get em if you want, but they're not really necessary and although any toon might someday be needed for an event (because CG loves to force you to get and gear bad toons as a necessary step for getting good toons), the odds with those two toons (like the odds for Mob Enforcer) are low. If you skip them, you can move to collecting prestige earlier, and the odds are more than 99% that prestige will be of more practical value.
But on the other hand, once you start collecting prestige, there's no real limit - 8 cap ships require about 15k total prestige, and this is not a quick source. So it can give you more practical help in the game, but once you choose it, you're probably choosing never to collect Ug and CUP - at least never through the store.
Fleet Store:
That was a pretty good list, but I did forget PDX-wing, you're right. Bistan's U-Wing also can be helpful (a lot of people swear by it), but it's no good without Bistan, who is a low-priority toon. It's just not good enough for me to worry about moving both a ship and a lousy toon over other priorities. So... yeah, collect them, but after other things and not using an income as precious as Fleet which can buy your zeta mats.
If you have other sources for Sun Fac, it's still good to save as much Fleet income as possible for zeta mats, but if you decide you want to hurry Sun Fac along, you can add him to that list. The others already have good sources elsewhere.
So the updated list is like this:
Is there any ship that I can skip ? let say Plo Koon or Resistance or I take any ship?
Take all the ships. Plo Koon has maybe the 2rd best reinforcement ability in the game, maybe even best. He AoE cleanses ALL debuffs on your squad and then gives a large amount of health and protection back to all your other ships at once and is the only ship in the game that can do this either as a reinforcement or in play. Even if your pilot is low gear, it doesn't matter, because the point is to save all your powerful ships from the brink of destruction. He even has an ability that allows you to give a taunt to any ship you want, so you bring Plo in, gain all the health & prot, then give taunt to any ship you want (even Plo's) and that can help you a ton more than bringing in your 3rd best attacker in the middle of a fleet with 17 debuffs and next-to-no health left.
The point of Plo isn't to be a monster ship. The point of Plo is that you can use him to save all the ships you really invested in (both ship and pilot).
So... no. Def. don't skip Plo.
But also don't skip any ship in the GW store. 7* all of them. They're all needed at some point or other for specific events or factions. Jedi Consular is used in the GAS event, for instance, etc. etc. etc. If you wait until you need a specific ship for a specific event, you might find that it's one of the ships that shows up rarely in the GW store. If you're always collecting, right from the beginning, then you'll have the ship ready (or near ready). But if you didn't buy them from the beginning, you'll find that it's taking too long to wait for the blueprints to show up in GW Store, and you'll end up using much more valuable currencies elsewhere when you could have had it done with GW Tokens only if you took the longer view.
So, yeah. Buy ALL the ships that the GW Store offers.
The rest of your thinking on GW Store is fine - agree.
Cantina Store:
Not Completed :
Stromtrooper,
Mob Enforcer,
Jedi Knight Guardian,
Jawa Scavenger,
Bistan,
Pao,
Ship Building Materials,
T4 Enhancement Droid,
Agree Daka is the priority.
I wouldn't ever buy Ship Building Materials or T4 Enhancement Droids. Never. If you finish everything in the store, then just buy U-Wing blueprints and turn then into Shard Shop currency. They'll get you a couple salvage of some gear you actually need, which is better than Ship Building materials which, by the time you finish everything, should be coming in steadily and are expensive to purchase with tokens. The amount of SBM you gain just isn't worth as much as 2 stun gun salvage would be.
Also, and this is just me, but a couple of those characters have multiple sources that make them not very worth buy-in in the store. So, when I was faced with this situation earlier in my playing days, I bought things up to 6* so that if I ever really needed the toon finished quickly, I wasn't so far away, but after 6* I relied on other sources. So my Cantina list for you, post-data would be this:
Not Completed :
Jawa Scavenger,
Stromtrooper ===> only to 6*
Bistan,
Pao,
Jedi Knight Guardian ===> only to 6*
U-Wing blueprints FOREVER ...unless they suddenly announce a new event requiring JKG or ST and you don't have them finished yet, or unless they add a new toon to this store. But then right back to U-Wing blueprints FOREVER.
which one are just awful so we don't farm them?
I cut Mob Enforcer, SBMs, and training droids. JKG is more of an "in case" farm. She's almost bad enough never to farm, ever, but farming toons take a long time, and although gearing all the way to Relic takes a while, it doesn't take as long as the farm itself. For that reason, I prefer a "collect em all, just don't give them any gear" approach to most bad toons. You never know when you'll get caught without a needed toon.
That said, the odds of ever needing JKG are quire low, so skipping JKG completely and relying on the long, slow process of random Bronzium bonuses and other event shards is good enough for a lot of people. That's more a matter of style than a matter of good advice. My style would be to take JKG to 6*, but I'm not saying that my style is better than anybody else. It's just how I do it. Other people could tell you to skip that character and they'd have their own good reasons for doing so.
Squad Arena Store:
Cassian 4* 8/65
IG-88 3* 19/30
Nute Gunray 0* 60/80
HK-47 0* 27/80
Not Completed:
Build up a reserve of 6k-10k Arena Tokens
Chief Nebit
Savage Opress
Eeth Koth
****Ugnaught
****Coruscant Underworld Police
Prestige FOREVER
This is a good list, and a good order. By the time you could be spending on credits, the credit crunch will be eased up a lot. I keep a good reserve or Arena Tokens (about 12-20k these days) and I spend more on shards of completed toons to get Shard Shop currency than I do on Prestige. But that's because I build up such a huge reserve of prestige that I still have 3k left with only 1 capital ship left to unlock. I might never feel any prestige crunch ever again. But at your level? You have 8 cap ships to max out. If you ever get to the point where you should be buying shards instead of prestige, it's because you've been playing the game for years and you don't need my advice anymore.
None of the toons in the 2nd group are important enough right away that you can't build up a reserve of a few thousand Tokens. Why do it this way? Because if you spend all your tokens as you get them, then later figure out hat you really need Savage Opress b/c of some rework or event or something, then you have to start from 0 tokens. If it turns out that it's Nebit that you need in a hurry, you can always quick-spend those Arena Tokens on Nebit anyway. But if it turns out to be something else (including Prestige) that you need in a hurry because of some new announcement, it's way better to have saved up tokens than have spent them all on toons that are helpful to have, but not really necessary.
Note Ugnaught & CUP. These are luxury toons. You could skip farming them altogether, but a lot of people feel a sense of pride at getting these two toons in particular b/c they're so bad. It's a way of saying, Look, I've done so well, I could afford to waste Tokens on this junk. I must be doing pretty great, right?
I don't know if you'll feel that sense of pride. I collected them, but that was years ago when there weren't as many other things to spend my Arena Tokens on (including not having nearly as many CapShips who needed prestige).
Anyway, skip 'em if you want. Get em if you want, but they're not really necessary and although any toon might someday be needed for an event (because CG loves to force you to get and gear bad toons as a necessary step for getting good toons), the odds with those two toons (like the odds for Mob Enforcer) are low. If you skip them, you can move to collecting prestige earlier, and the odds are more than 99% that prestige will be of more practical value.
But on the other hand, once you start collecting prestige, there's no real limit - 8 cap ships require about 15k total prestige, and this is not a quick source. So it can give you more practical help in the game, but once you choose it, you're probably choosing never to collect Ug and CUP - at least never through the store.
Fleet Store:
Fleet Store :
Slave 1
Umbarran Fighter
Sun Fac Ship
When you're done with all those :
Rex Ship
Zam Wessel
Tusken Shaman
Scarif Pathfinder
Zeta mats forever
That was a pretty good list, but I did forget PDX-wing, you're right. Bistan's U-Wing also can be helpful (a lot of people swear by it), but it's no good without Bistan, who is a low-priority toon. It's just not good enough for me to worry about moving both a ship and a lousy toon over other priorities. So... yeah, collect them, but after other things and not using an income as precious as Fleet which can buy your zeta mats.
If you have other sources for Sun Fac, it's still good to save as much Fleet income as possible for zeta mats, but if you decide you want to hurry Sun Fac along, you can add him to that list. The others already have good sources elsewhere.
Any of the not completed list to add to the farming list?
Not Completed :
Bistan
Resistance Pilot
Plo Koon
Bistan U-Wing
Gauntlet Starfighter
Plo Koon
Sun Fac
First Order Tie Pilot
TIE Fighter Pilot
First Order TIE Fighter
Imperial TIE Fighter
Poe Dameron's X-wing
So the updated list is like this:
Fleet Store :
Slave 1
Umbarran Fighter
Sun Fac Ship
Optional, but a high priority if you decide to purchase: Sun Fac
***also, special note: you put Sun Fac on both your completed and your not completed lists. I'm not sure how that happened, but obviously if you're done with Sun Fac, you no longer have this dilemma.
When you're done with all those :
PDX-Wing
Rex Ship
Zam Wessel
Tusken Shaman
Scarif Pathfinder
Zeta mats forever
